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Post by borchester on Oct 19, 2022 20:20:21 GMT
The brothers and sisters appear to be carrying all before them, but whether that is nationwide or confined to the lands south of the border is hard to tell
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Post by jaydee on Oct 20, 2022 7:59:59 GMT
The brothers and sisters appear to be carrying all before them, but whether that is nationwide or confined to the lands south of the border is hard to tell If you read the Red Ra. That concludes Labour will gain 7 seats in Scotland. I think it is called wishful think. But they are correct re the Tory's. . The Conservatives under the joke of the present leader ship. Will be wiped out.Labour lost 40 seats in the immediate aftermath of the 2014 independence referendum. Having dominated north of the border throughout the second half of the 20th Century, the party is left clinging to a single Scottish constituency. That was brought about by Johann Lamont and her Branch Office remark. That is the uphill struggle the Unionist party's face. Not helped by their continued rabid nonsense that Scotland is to wee to poor and to stupid to go alone. It no longer works. Not to mention that every that every thing that has happened to Scotland, spewed by the Unionit doom mongers in project fear, if the Scots leave the UK. Has happened while part of the UK. And the declining on going disaster unfolding in England since, dragging Scotland with it. There is no doubt D.Ross and his lunatics will be wiped out. As will the Lib dems. I suspect Labour to will be wiped out. But may still hold onto one seat. And the reason. A vast amount of Labour supporters do not want separation. But understand the SNP bat first, last and inbetween for Scotland. The party having nothing to attack the SNP with. Like Sarwar and and Dross as they rant utter havering slastering garbage week after week after week about a £70 million cock up on a ferry contract. While it was a fraction in the order of something like 00000000000.000000.00005% of the cock up Westminster has cost the Scottish tax payer. And still doing it, despite it has been sorted out. As you put it. The brothers and sisters and the Komrads, mostly in England, at the last election had a problem. . Corbyn. That was the reason Johnston got his majority. In short a choice between two disasters. The result in England now coming to a disastrous conclusion. The Scots voted neither. More to the point. Will the The brothers and sisters and the Komrads, in England vote Starmer. I suspect yes. labourlist.org/2022/10/labour-set-to-win-seven-seats-in-scotland-at-next-general-election-poll-finds/
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2022 9:16:34 GMT
They're in competition with the SNP for who can be the looniest lefties.
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 10:10:12 GMT
The brothers and sisters appear to be carrying all before them, but whether that is nationwide or confined to the lands south of the border is hard to tell very little borkie , apart from small benefits from intra unionist transfers in voting intention.
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Post by sword on Oct 26, 2022 15:33:45 GMT
They're in competition with the SNP for who can be the looniest lefties. Such as?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 16:33:56 GMT
They're in competition with the SNP for who can be the looniest lefties. Such as? Dont listento vinny sword. Vinny doesnt understand basic politics never mind politics in my country.
Neither new labour nor the snp could possibly be considered loony lefties in the old definition of the words.....more like left of centre and centrists by my reckoning. Fack sake boris was more left wing than keir starmer.
For a better understanding of labours position in scotland this might help .
Darkness descends upon dejected Labour as new YouGov data shows 13% of their Scottish voters from the 2019 general election have defected to the SNP
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 18:07:15 GMT
Labour doing pretty good at the moment - hoovering up support from Tories and LibDems and with SNP support falling they could become a force again.
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Post by om15 on Nov 30, 2022 20:35:54 GMT
Come off it, fox hunting, trans gender rubbish, politicising education, the SNP are rabid left wingers by anybodies ordinary standards.
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Post by morayloon on Nov 30, 2022 21:46:19 GMT
Come off it, fox hunting, trans gender rubbish, politicising education, the SNP are rabid left wingers by anybodies ordinary standards. Fox hunting? one of the best pieces of legislation ever enacted in Holyrood Where on earth do you get 'politicising education' from? I left the SNP partly because of the Gender Recognition policy they were ramming through but mostly because she was doing nothing to further the cause
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Post by morayloon on Nov 30, 2022 21:53:12 GMT
From the same Opinion Poll: Yes 52% (+4) No 48% (-4) YES on 52% but the SNP only on 41%. Presumably the 4% drop has gone to Labour. Quite how these people think a Labour Government will further the cause is beyond me. The Scottish voting intentions will be interesting
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2022 22:27:18 GMT
From the same Opinion Poll: Yes 52% (+4) No 48% (-4) YES on 52% but the SNP only on 41%. Presumably the 4% drop has gone to Labour. Quite how these people think a Labour Government will further the cause is beyond me. The Scottish voting intentions will be interesting Perhaps the policy failures of the SNP are holding the Indy vote back? - if the main pro-Indy party had a record of policy success then you would be closer to your goal?
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Post by morayloon on Nov 30, 2022 23:18:45 GMT
From the same Opinion Poll: Yes 52% (+4) No 48% (-4) YES on 52% but the SNP only on 41%. Presumably the 4% drop has gone to Labour. Quite how these people think a Labour Government will further the cause is beyond me. The Scottish voting intentions will be interesting Perhaps the policy failures of the SNP are holding the Indy vote back? - if the main pro-Indy party had a record of policy success then you would be closer to your goal? The SNP has made a good fist of things given the current situation. I have posted, elsewhere, rebuttals of the 'policy failure' accusations. In comparison to the other nations Scotland is doing well but you never hear that. The Unionist media have never published anything that shows the SNP in a good light! It is a wonder that the party is still polling in the 40%s. However, the electorate see through the misinformation and I expect, come the election, the people who have moved to Labour will return once they realise their mistake, especially once it is brought home to them that the surge is down to straight transfers from the Tories to the Red Tories, i.e. unionist to unionist
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 1, 2022 7:56:51 GMT
Perhaps the policy failures of the SNP are holding the Indy vote back? - if the main pro-Indy party had a record of policy success then you would be closer to your goal? The SNP has made a good fist of things given the current situation. I have posted, elsewhere, rebuttals of the 'policy failure' accusations. In comparison to the other nations Scotland is doing well but you never hear that. The Unionist media have never published anything that shows the SNP in a good light! It is a wonder that the party is still polling in the 40%s. However, the electorate see through the misinformation and I expect, come the election, the people who have moved to Labour will return once they realise their mistake, especially once it is brought home to them that the surge is down to straight transfers from the Tories to the Red Tories, i.e. unionist to unionist But that is the point - if Unionist support is coalescing around Labour rather than being split 3 ways then that will make it more likely that Unionist (ie Labour candidates) win elections from the SNP.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 1, 2022 8:48:34 GMT
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