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Post by dodgydave on Mar 17, 2023 2:20:19 GMT
The Tories have backed down and have offered NHS workers at least 15% over two years (6% of it as a lump sum).
2022 - 4% (already imposed) + 6% lump sum.
2023 - 5%
Should they snap the Tories hand off and vote to accept it?
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Should they push for more because Rishi is going to fail with his waiting time pledge if the strikes continue?
My instinct says accept it, and then push for a review into what can be done to increase recruitment and retention.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 17, 2023 7:36:17 GMT
Seems reasonable to accept - it's a 10% rise for 2023 which is what those on handouts got.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 8:08:26 GMT
Seems reasonable to accept - it's a 10% rise for 2023 which is what those on handouts got. Do you mean pensioners? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 17, 2023 8:11:34 GMT
Pensions are not handouts - there are deferred pay.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 8:28:16 GMT
Pensions are not handouts - there are deferred pay. Oh, you mean unemployed. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 17, 2023 8:34:20 GMT
Pensions are not handouts - there are deferred pay. Oh, you mean unemployed. If you believe that only unemployed get handouts it explains why you are so out of touch.. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 17, 2023 9:02:22 GMT
The offer's a bit low but in the current environment they should probably take it.
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Post by see2 on Mar 17, 2023 9:26:17 GMT
If you believe that only unemployed get handouts it explains why you are so out of touch.. It would surely have been reasonable to say who you are referring to. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 17, 2023 12:05:18 GMT
If you believe that only unemployed get handouts it explains why you are so out of touch.. It would surely have been reasonable to say who you are referring to. Whoevever's face fits.  |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 17, 2023 13:11:57 GMT
The offer's a bit low but in the current environment they should probably take it. The Pandemic cost the taxpayers £400 Billion, I think it is a reasonable offer due to the size of the NHS workforce it is an additional substantial amount for taxpayers to fund, the wages Bill was over £50 Billion and year before this offer was made, having said that they deserve the pay rise. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 17, 2023 13:21:07 GMT
The offer's a bit low but in the current environment they should probably take it. The Pandemic cost the taxpayers £400 Billion, I think it is a reasonable offer due to the size of the NHS workforce it is an additional substantial amount for taxpayers to fund, the wages Bill was over £50 Billion and year before this offer was made, having said that they deserve the pay rise. As far as I'm concerned, the pandemic is irrelevant - that was two years ago but many of these workers have been on a decade long pay freeze. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 17, 2023 13:46:43 GMT
I am fully aware of that and they should have had a pay rise long ago , but nobody expected a Pandemic to appear out of nowhere, and the Government would have to spend so much and borrow so much, which will take years to pay off.
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 17, 2023 14:34:09 GMT
The Pandemic cost the taxpayers £400 Billion, I think it is a reasonable offer due to the size of the NHS workforce it is an additional substantial amount for taxpayers to fund, the wages Bill was over £50 Billion and year before this offer was made, having said that they deserve the pay rise. As far as I'm concerned, the pandemic is irrelevant - that was two years ago but many of these workers have been on a decade long pay freeze. You have been listening to Labour too much. There was a pay freeze during austerity, but the NHS got a whopping pay rise under "agenda for change" in a three year deal 2018-2021. They also introduced less pay points so it was easier to get to the top of the bands. People on top of the bands got shafted, they only got 6.5%, but the average increase was 15%. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 17, 2023 14:49:18 GMT
BMJ report 2019
In 2017 the UK spent the least amount of money per capita om healthcare than the other countries studied (US, Canada, Germany, Australia, Sweden, France, Denmark, the Netherlands, and Switzerland). The UK also had the least number of doctors and nurses per capita.
A more recent report said that Poland is the only country in Europe with less doctors per capita than the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 17:27:50 GMT
If you believe that only unemployed get handouts it explains why you are so out of touch.. Oh, you mean the railway bosses. |
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