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Post by thomas on Mar 18, 2023 15:39:27 GMT
Scotland would have reduced access to it's largest market. sure , thats what initially happened to the republic of ireland , after independence. It too was a captive audience of uk imports and exports.
Since the republic of ireland joined the then EEC in 1973 , its trade with the uk has doubled , but its trade with the EU has risen Five times greater than its uk trade.
Scotland would be no different , having acces to a market of 500 million in our glorious european union.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 15:58:36 GMT
Scotland would have reduced access to it's largest market. sure , thats what initially happened to the republic of ireland , after independence. It too was a captive audience of uk imports and exports.
Since the republic of ireland joined the then EEC in 1973 , its trade with the uk has doubled , but its trade with the EU has risen Five times greater than its uk trade.
Scotland would be no different , having acces to a market of 500 million in our glorious european union. Cheerio then. |
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Post by thomas on Mar 18, 2023 15:59:13 GMT
sure , thats what initially happened to the republic of ireland , after independence. It too was a captive audience of uk imports and exports.
Since the republic of ireland joined the then EEC in 1973 , its trade with the uk has doubled , but its trade with the EU has risen Five times greater than its uk trade.
Scotland would be no different , having acces to a market of 500 million in our glorious european union. Cheerio then. thanks for your input once again b4. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 16:04:11 GMT
So, are you going to serve your new masters or only talk about it in a dream-like state? You need more than words, you need substance, and by the looks of it the ScotNat party has crumbled.
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Post by morayloon on Mar 19, 2023 3:40:35 GMT
Come off it Loony, I have always said that Sturgeon was useless, dishonest and bigoted, I further predict that once she steps down collars will be felt and a load more will surface. You have never corrected anything, just argued that I was wrong, now it is obvious that I wasn't wrong. I will be happy to comment on the arrests, trials, sentences, appeals and denials that are yet to come. You really should look back over the shit you post and then look at my corrections. YC on the old forum did exactly the same as me. If you thought the corrections were wrong then you should have said so. Anyway, I was not referring to Sturgeon but the stupid comments you make on the main issues relating to Scotland. Sturgeon was bound to go sometime so you would have been able to claim you were right whenever she decided to go. I got out of the SNP just before the 2021 election because, as far as I was concerned, she was just stringing us along. Other than begging for a Section 30 order she had no plan. The GRR shenanigans also had a bearing on my decision. I have long been of the opinion that Murrell should have gone before now - as Ash Regan says he should have resigned eight years ago when Sturgeon became FM. Your moment of "triumph" does not bother me one bit. |
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Post by morayloon on Mar 19, 2023 3:46:35 GMT
So, are you going to serve your new masters or only talk about it in a dream-like state? You need more than words, you need substance, and by the looks of it the ScotNat party has crumbled. It is maybe a good thing. Under new leadership we'll possibly get back on the Independence track. It will be interesting to see if the next raft of opinion polls show diminishing support for Independence. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 19, 2023 7:17:25 GMT
So, are you going to serve your new masters or only talk about it in a dream-like state? You need more than words, you need substance, and by the looks of it the ScotNat party has crumbled. . It will be interesting to see if the next raft of opinion polls show diminishing support for Independence. Ah bless the way it is going Westminster will pull devolution. You know real governments not county councils. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 19, 2023 7:33:15 GMT
Ireland's trade with the UK has doubled since Brexit.
Scotland's trade with the EU, when it was in last time, was falling.
And here's why:
It's cheaper for businesses in an expensive EU member to leave, move to a lower wage lower tax country and export to Scotland, than produce in Scotland.
SNATs would destroy the province just to stick a finger up at England.
The EU doesn't work. It needs a democratic replacement for the Commission.
It needs fiscal union with an EU wide standardised tax system.
It needs wage parity based on living costs in the most expensive part.
It also needs an EU wide welfare state to prevent poverty migration.
If it had that, it would work.
Instead it has economic Darwinism.
A race to the bottom.
It wasn't working for us and we're out. Scotland is better off out of the EU.
The UK is independent.
Rather strange for SNATs to be opposing real independence.
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Post by thomas on Mar 19, 2023 8:26:24 GMT
Come off it Loony, I have always said that Sturgeon was useless, dishonest and bigoted, I further predict that once she steps down collars will be felt and a load more will surface. You have never corrected anything, just argued that I was wrong, now it is obvious that I wasn't wrong. I will be happy to comment on the arrests, trials, sentences, appeals and denials that are yet to come. Your moment of "triumph" does not bother me one bit. Thats what i keep trying to tell dear om moray. The majority of the yes movement are happier that sturgeon has gone than the kipper fanatics in englandshire. For om and his ilk , it could be some pyrrhic short term victory that sees the main barrier to scottish independence removed , and someone else put in place that will grind things forward once more.
I dont know about you , but i like ash regan. She doesnt appear to be taking anyones shite. I suspect though if the election stands as it is , it may very well be forbes who takes sturgeons place.
We have had a ridiculously short and deliberately rigged leadership contest , as many have said , where the contenders were denied finance and media training , so the anointed one yousaf could walk in and take up the mantle.
We have to see what pans out.
At the end of it regarding sturgeon and murrell , i will just be very interested to see what prompted them to do what they have done .....attempt to frame salmond , stall independence for 9 years with numerous open goals , and trash the snp.
I think her name is about to be added to a long and inglorious list of scots working against their country down the centuries.
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Post by thomas on Mar 19, 2023 8:29:43 GMT
Scotland's trade with the EU, when it was in last time, was falling. Scotland has an international goods trade surplus , while the rUK has an international goods trade deficit. If thats trade falling for scotland , i would hate to see what you describe ruk trade deficit as.
The only thing that has harmed scotland trade is of course englands brexit.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 19, 2023 8:36:28 GMT
And you're complaining about what then?
Your plan would destroy all that in an anarcho capitalist race to the bottom. In the UK, Scotland is thriving.
You have no cause for complaint.
Abolish devolution. Save taxes.
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Post by thomas on Mar 19, 2023 8:44:25 GMT
. In the UK, Scotland is thriving.
Scotland is thriving in the uk ? the vast majority of scots are massivley struggling in the uk , with 65 % of those polled blaming uk government economic policies , and 61 % blaming englands brexit.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 19, 2023 8:52:04 GMT
You just contradicted yourself, SNAT.
Meanwhile, were you to achieve your goals, there'd be hardly any industry left in Scotland.
You're a man with no plan.
Anarcho capitalism would destroy Scotland and all because you have a racist hatred of the English.
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Post by thomas on Mar 19, 2023 8:57:58 GMT
You just contradicted yourself, SNAT. Meanwhile, were you to achieve your goals, there'd be hardly any industry left in Scotland. You're a man with no plan. Anarcho capitalism would destroy Scotland and all because you have a racist hatred of the English. Its almost as if you are totally unaware of the massive economic damage brexit and the tory cost of living is currently doing to scottish homes and businesses. I mean this is how it goes with you all the time vinny. You dont debate. You dont read links .You dont address points. You simply sit and scream past everyone.
As a proud european , the plan is to jettison you kipper seperatists , and rejoin our european union.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 19, 2023 9:03:09 GMT
Once again you're distracting from the disastrous anarcho capitalist dream you have of opening Scotland up to cheap competition and the destruction of Scottish industry.
You have no idea what the EU is, or the dangers posed by your insane policies.
Lucky for Scotland, it already rejected your insane racist anarcho capitalist economic Darwinism utterly.
Go see a counsellor.
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