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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 7, 2023 8:20:12 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64872517I’m sorry but i can see the ‘kick the motorist’ camp salivating already For the UMPTEENTH time since they built the bloody road back in my youth when every car paid the same road tax the asshole plod have failed the ‘look in the fucking trees and under the embankments’ rule Look, i live down the road from this abortion of a junction. For a fifth of my working life i’ve had to navigate it twice daily and its builders are a bunch if shitheads that are’t fit to play with LEGO Those who follow such things might recall the BBC showing the work of the poor buggers who have to work out how a bunch of corpses seatbelted (or not) into a piece of metal wreckage came to be in need of an undertaker. The area between junction 28 and 29 of tbe M4 is a regular star of the show. There was the case of the confused woman who turned right at the utter abortion that is J28 Tredegar park and lived a whole two minutes longer driving against the oncoming M4 eastbound traffic before a 44 tonne lorry solved the problem. And the chap on the A48M coming the other way who fell asleep at the wheel and who collected a tree branch in the chest as his car went straight down the embankment having smashed through the crash barrier And here we go again Three girls leave a pub in the western area of Newport and get into a VW Tiguan owned by some lad from Porthcawl who might be related to some footballer or other and in spite of being the most CCTV monitored area after Belmarsh Prison NO ONE sees the car leave tbe road at shit o clock on a Saturday night and plunge into the woodland below. It is not until 48 hours later that someone notices wreckage in tbe woods. But i can hear now the twat who formerly ran Sustrans and demanded the law be changed so that any cyclist who is hit by anything or anyone, be they articulated lorry or pedestrian, when the cyclist shoots a red light in the dark wearing marine commando blackout with not a single reflector never mind light, be automatically entitled to claim the other party legally at fault as they were not cycling at the time, who has been given the job of transport minister for fucks sake, shouting out that it is tome to make tbe speed limit on the m4 20mph … Because tbe one thing plod are not allowed to do is criticise fucking mental road design and criminal negligence in crash barrier construction and maintenance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 13:09:38 GMT
What we should have are compulsary high-speed driving tests to keep the n00bs off the motorway/dual carriageways until they understand the risks, and what to do when something bad can possibly happen. 70mph is fine, and sometimes too slow. However, a lot does also depend on the car. Small town runners aren't ideal (too light).
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2023 13:22:36 GMT
What we should have are compulsary high-speed driving tests to keep the n00bs off the motorway/dual carriageways until they understand the risks, and what to do when something bad can possibly happen. 70mph is fine, and sometimes too slow. However, a lot does also depend on the car. Small town runners aren't ideal (too light). It seems the vehicle in this very trajic loss of young lives was a VW SUV..... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 13:34:23 GMT
What we should have are compulsary high-speed driving tests to keep the n00bs off the motorway/dual carriageways until they understand the risks, and what to do when something bad can possibly happen. 70mph is fine, and sometimes too slow. However, a lot does also depend on the car. Small town runners aren't ideal (too light). It seems the vehicle in this very trajic loss of young lives was a VW SUV..... Looking at the crash point (a roundabout?) I would say they were going too fast for that area of road. At sensible speeds I can't see that sort of damage occuring. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 13:40:53 GMT
What we should have are compulsary high-speed driving tests to keep the n00bs off the motorway/dual carriageways until they understand the risks, and what to do when something bad can possibly happen. 70mph is fine, and sometimes too slow. However, a lot does also depend on the car. Small town runners aren't ideal (too light). Partly agree. Compulsory motorway driving training should be required for every driver within a certain time of passing their driving test because — as far as I remember, L drivers aren’t allowed on motorways, so current training is theory only. Some insurance companies offer reduced costs to certificated advanced drivers, so maybe reverse charging for drivers who don’t have “full” training could be an inducement… |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 13:58:34 GMT
As for the 20mph motorway limit — there seems to be plenty of temporary speed restrictions being imposed randomly throughout the motorway network, so it could happen.
20mph is increasingly imposed on main roads in London.
A 20mph limit in residential streets seems sensible — and often too fast. But round here streets are being blocked off so all traffic is being swept onto main roads and journeys of a mile or two are often doubled or tripled in length and also taking longer. Visiting an address in one of these blocked off streets, unlike a cul de sac which usually has a turning circle, can require a three-point turn to get out.
Local authority traffic planners seem not to understand traffic…
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 11, 2023 22:30:15 GMT
It seems the vehicle in this very trajic loss of young lives was a VW SUV..... Looking at the crash point (a roundabout?) I would say they were going too fast for that area of road. At sensible speeds I can't see that sort of damage occuring. I know the junction well, it has ben on my route home for ten of the last 45 years. From details i have now that were not made public until recently it is the case that six people, not five, were originally in the vehicle. My son in law has one, take it from me getting four in the back is ‘cosy’ (and not legal) They picked up the girls late in the evening, drove to porthcawl, a journey of about 30 min before dickfords ANPR GATSO 50mph limits, rather more now, and came back at shit o clock in the morning. Having dropped one of the six off they came to this roundabout. The drop off point of the first passenger is critical. Its a strange route to take from Porthcawl to Maesglas it would make more sense to stay on the M4 and drive to J28. To be on the St Mellons roundabout as they were must have meant a deliberate choice to leave the M4 (unless they took the old A48 back of course) and come up the Eastern Avenue Inner By Pass (past my childhood home) or take the Cardiff Gate J30 junction past my parent’s final home before their deaths (i said i knew this area VERY well) I have travelled the east/ west direction myself on that very roundabout at 95mph the night my brother’s firstborn infant died and at 120mph the day my daughters friend almost had his hand severed at a funfair industrial accident. On that second occasiom, my neighbour a fast respinse car paramedic was at the wheel, i was in the back keeping the victim’s shit together until we got to the gwent It makes NO sense for a car to leave the road on those trajectories and end up where it did Had we come a cropper on those occasions our wreck would have been highly visible in the middle of the roundabout or the car park of the garden centre or smashed in the trees in the east which end in a very sturdy wall. No, the only possible trajectory that makes sense fir where the police SAY the vehicle ended was for them to have dropped their sixth passenger somewhere in the housing estate south if the roundabout, an estate of studio and one bedroomed homes built by barratt about forty years ago where my youngest brother and his wife originally bought separate houses years before they net. A car driving northbound out of that estate that enters the roundabout too fast for its own good and loses it on the dodgy camber after the fucked up realignment of that junction 10 years ago when they put a fucking cycle lane in the a48 west of that roundabout into Old St Mellons would be the obvious trajectory for a car leaving the road and ending where it did The debris trail would not start until the kerb at the roadside, the monentum would have swept all such debris into the woods and unless you were looking down from a chopper or a drone you’d see nothing. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 12, 2023 5:53:23 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64872517I’m sorry but i can see the ‘kick the motorist’ camp salivating already For the UMPTEENTH time since they built the bloody road back in my youth when every car paid the same road tax the asshole plod have failed the ‘look in the fucking trees and under the embankments’ rule Look, i live down the road from this abortion of a junction. For a fifth of my working life i’ve had to navigate it twice daily and its builders are a bunch if shitheads that are’t fit to play with LEGO Those who follow such things might recall the BBC showing the work of the poor buggers who have to work out how a bunch of corpses seatbelted (or not) into a piece of metal wreckage came to be in need of an undertaker. The area between junction 28 and 29 of tbe M4 is a regular star of the show. There was the case of the confused woman who turned right at the utter abortion that is J28 Tredegar park and lived a whole two minutes longer driving against the oncoming M4 eastbound traffic before a 44 tonne lorry solved the problem. And the chap on the A48M coming the other way who fell asleep at the wheel and who collected a tree branch in the chest as his car went straight down the embankment having smashed through the crash barrier And here we go again Three girls leave a pub in the western area of Newport and get into a VW Tiguan owned by some lad from Porthcawl who might be related to some footballer or other and in spite of being the most CCTV monitored area after Belmarsh Prison NO ONE sees the car leave tbe road at shit o clock on a Saturday night and plunge into the woodland below. It is not until 48 hours later that someone notices wreckage in tbe woods. But i can hear now the twat who formerly ran Sustrans and demanded the law be changed so that any cyclist who is hit by anything or anyone, be they articulated lorry or pedestrian, when the cyclist shoots a red light in the dark wearing marine commando blackout with not a single reflector never mind light, be automatically entitled to claim the other party legally at fault as they were not cycling at the time, who has been given the job of transport minister for fucks sake, shouting out that it is tome to make tbe speed limit on the m4 20mph … Because tbe one thing plod are not allowed to do is criticise fucking mental road design and criminal negligence in crash barrier construction and maintenance You aught to work for the Welsh tourist board. You reviews of Newport should help to keep the English out. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 12, 2023 13:41:09 GMT
It seems the vehicle in this very trajic loss of young lives was a VW SUV..... Looking at the crash point (a roundabout?) I would say they were going too fast for that area of road. At sensible speeds I can't see that sort of damage occuring. I agree they are locals and probably knew the roundabout was there, the SUV had travelled quite along way from where it left the road and ended up in the trees probably out of sight from the road that to me says it was being driven very quickly very quickly indeed They had been clubbing apparently later they went to a camp site, I would hazard a guess that the driver was under the influence of something drink or drugs or both, or was that tired fell asleep at the wheel or just bad driving, eventually two Police Forces were looking for them and they claim their Helicopter found the car, five of their friends claim they found the car. They were all adults not children even though the calls made by their friends or family to report them missing the Police are not going to into a full seek and search mode, for kids yes for adults No |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 12, 2023 15:01:16 GMT
You aught to work for the Welsh tourist board. You reviews of Newport should help to keep the English out. No need. North and West Wales councils and their cottage burning Assembly Members have all said publicly they wish to ban tourism as it causes too much of an upswing in low waged employment in the hospitality sector. Why should i do their job for them ?? |
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