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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 17, 2023 11:38:48 GMT
 You really have bought all this green nonsense hook, line and sinker, Zany. Even our daft politicians don't really believe it. They just know that they'll almost certainly be out of office by the time the shit hits the fan and people realise they've been conned. I bought into it so much I bought one. So the figures I give are actual ones, not from some clickbait bloke on You tube. I thought you had a hybrid not a pure EV? |
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Post by patman post on Mar 17, 2023 14:27:44 GMT
After 11pm, permitted noise levels are:
• 34 dBA (decibels adjusted) where background noise is no higher than 24dBA
• 10dBA above the level of background noise if this exceeds 24dBA Thanks for proving yet again that zany was speaking through her rectum. How do you work that out?
By my reckoning, 34dBA is higher than 24dBA, and noise one can lawfully make after 11pm is way higher — providing it is no more than 10dBA above the level of the background noise, which could easily be constantly 70dBA from traffic noise in a city or town...
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Post by patman post on Mar 17, 2023 14:33:42 GMT
Yep at 168mpg it should be OK. You really have bought all this green nonsense hook, line and sinker, Zany. Even our daft politicians don't really believe it. They just know that they'll almost certainly be out of office by the time the shit hits the fan and people realise they've been conned. Among all the anti-green and anti-EV hysterical hyperbole and rhetoric, I've not seen any understandable explanation as to who it is that's driving this world-wide "con" of renewables and EV's, and what they are getting from it...
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Post by jonksy on Mar 17, 2023 14:48:04 GMT
Thanks for proving yet again that zany was speaking through her rectum. How do you work that out?
By my reckoning, 34dBA is higher than 24dBA, and noise one can lawfully make after 11pm is way higher — providing it is no more than 10dBA above the level of the background noise, which could easily be constantly 70dBA from traffic noise in a city or town...
Easy if you kept up what zany stated before going off half cocked.. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 17, 2023 14:58:59 GMT
For what's worth...........
We do what we can to avoid fossil fuel use. We get our groceries to our door. The grocery man makes several local trips rather than one for us for the grocery store. If we do need to go to our Aldi we walk. It is a good stroll but we take our dog. It serves the two purposes - we do our shopping and he gets the exercise. And we use the internet. We don't a car for that. Delivery is multi-drop operation.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 17, 2023 17:41:58 GMT
For what's worth........... We do what we can to avoid fossil fuel use. We get our groceries to our door. The grocery man makes several local trips rather than one for us for the grocery store. If we do need to go to our Aldi we walk. It is a good stroll but we take our dog. It serves the two purposes - we do our shopping and he gets the exercise. And we use the internet. We don't a car for that. Delivery is multi-drop operation. Nearest Aldi to me is aat least 15 miles away. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 17, 2023 19:30:01 GMT
I bought into it so much I bought one. So the figures I give are actual ones, not from some clickbait bloke on You tube. We all bought into it at one time. See how many of us went diesel as advised and got much better mileage but now pay much more for our fuel. It seems electric is slowly going the same way as costs increase. The idea is not to go electric it is to get as many people as possible off the road by hook or by crook. We went diesel because they were more efficient, we gave them up because of nitrous oxides which in crowded spaces is carcinogenic. Nothing to do with fuel prices but emission charges. We learn, we change, what's new? We'll re EV's, but you are determined to dismiss them before they have a chance. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 17, 2023 20:33:08 GMT
We all bought into it at one time. See how many of us went diesel as advised and got much better mileage but now pay much more for our fuel. It seems electric is slowly going the same way as costs increase. The idea is not to go electric it is to get as many people as possible off the road by hook or by crook. We went diesel because they were more efficient, we gave them up because of nitrous oxides which in crowded spaces is carcinogenic. Nothing to do with fuel prices but emission charges. We learn, we change, what's new? We'll re EV's, but you are determined to dismiss them before they have a chance. I thought you had a hybrid? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 17, 2023 22:02:42 GMT
We went diesel because they were more efficient, we gave them up because of nitrous oxides which in crowded spaces is carcinogenic. Nothing to do with fuel prices but emission charges. We learn, we change, what's new? We'll re EV's, but you are determined to dismiss them before they have a chance. I thought you had a hybrid? I do. I wanted an EV but the wait was too long. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 18, 2023 7:40:13 GMT
I thought you had a hybrid? I do. I wanted an EV but the wait was too long. Hybrids do NOT do 168mpg - except on the EU efficiency tests, where they can perform most of the test using battery power. In normal driving hybrids are the least efficient cars you can buy - unless you only use them on electric power and always charge them up using renewable energy. Which is highly unlikely. They're highly inefficient because generating electricity from a petrol engine is very inefficient form and carrying around a heavy battery is also very inefficient. It's much cleaner to buy the petrol version of whatever car you've got. You don't even understand the facts. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 18, 2023 7:49:15 GMT
You really have bought all this green nonsense hook, line and sinker, Zany. Even our daft politicians don't really believe it. They just know that they'll almost certainly be out of office by the time the shit hits the fan and people realise they've been conned. Among all the anti-green and anti-EV hysterical hyperbole and rhetoric, I've not seen any understandable explanation as to who it is that's driving this world-wide "con" of renewables and EV's, and what they are getting from it...
What about "non-lethal warfare"? By persuading a nation to aim for "net-zero" you seriously damage its economy so it's anti-capitalism - and there are a lot of people who want to destroy capitalism. Look at how we've exported all our business that uses a lot of energy, for example. We can't compete with China who use cheap coal power, so China benefits. Also by persuading people to buy useless, expensive BEVs you drive people off the roads - which is popular among many groups. There are loads of reasons that people might want to persuade stupid people to believe all this green nonsense. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 18, 2023 8:02:21 GMT
I do. I wanted an EV but the wait was too long. Hybrids do NOT do 168mpg - except on the EU efficiency tests, where they can perform most of the test using battery power. In normal driving hybrids are the least efficient cars you can buy - unless you only use them on electric power and always charge them up using renewable energy. Which is highly unlikely. They're highly inefficient because generating electricity from a petrol engine is very inefficient form and carrying around a heavy battery is also very inefficient. It's much cleaner to buy the petrol version of whatever car you've got. You don't even understand the facts. I know. But my plug in hybrid does about 35 miles on battery alone so: I go to work 6 miles, I come home 6 miles and use no petrol. At the weekend, I go to town 16 miles, then on for a favourite walk 7 miles then home 19 miles Total 42 miles and use 7 miles of petrol. In a week that's 144 miles using 7 miles of fuel. Once a month or so I visit our other centres ave 180mile round trip on these my car averages 54mpg. Add that little lot up and you see why my car averages 168mpg |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 18, 2023 11:58:50 GMT
I'm retired now but I used to travel a lot. It was not unusual to do 400 miles at a stroke. My car has a range of over 600 miles. It was quite often the same for people in similar jobs. EVs simply couldn't hack it.
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Post by zanygame on Mar 18, 2023 12:15:16 GMT
I'm retired now but I used to travel a lot. It was not unusual to do 400 miles at a stroke. My car has a range of over 600 miles. It was quite often the same for people in similar jobs. EVs simply couldn't hack it. Yeah but the average is 28 miles. And a 400 mile trip is very unusual. A 400 mile trip takes about 8 hours and should not be done without a break. I don't know what you did, but there are not that many places that are 400 miles away in the UK. London to Dundee perhaps? at a stroke? Hmm. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 18, 2023 13:30:00 GMT
I'm retired now but I used to travel a lot. It was not unusual to do 400 miles at a stroke. My car has a range of over 600 miles. It was quite often the same for people in similar jobs. EVs simply couldn't hack it. Yeah but the average is 28 miles. And a 400 mile trip is very unusual. A 400 mile trip takes about 8 hours and should not be done without a break. I don't know what you did, but there are not that many places that are 400 miles away in the UK. London to Dundee perhaps? at a stroke? Hmm. It's not that unusual as I have already said. Watford Glasgow was a regular trip in one stop. The car I had was pretty economical. On one trip to Kent I clocked it at 70 mph average speed although it was a slow traffic day. The six-box helped that. |
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You really have bought all this green nonsense hook, line and sinker, Zany. Even our daft politicians don't really believe it. They just know that they'll almost certainly be out of office by the time the shit hits the fan and people realise they've been conned.
