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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 13:16:53 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous! Our legal system is an utter disgrace........People have hit and killed people and not even gone to jail. What a mess......This is an absolutely ridiculous decision. Ridiculous. The courts should be ashamed.
Disabled woman, 49, who gestured for a cyclist to move off the pavement and onto road seconds before she was hit and killed by a car is jailed for three years for MANSLAUGHTER
Auriol Grey, 49, raised her hand at cyclist Celia Ward, 77, in Huntingdon, Cambs
Retired grandmother Mrs Ward fell into the road and was killed in a car collision
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Post by totheleft3 on Mar 2, 2023 13:25:28 GMT
3yrs for man slauter seens fair drunk driver's who hit and kill people get less then that
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 13:29:24 GMT
3yrs for man slauter seens fair drunk driver's who hit and kill people get less then that I know all cases are judged on their own merit but this is total BS. |
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2023 13:32:45 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous! Our legal system is an utter disgrace........People have hit and killed people and not even gone to jail. What a mess......This is an absolutely ridiculous decision. Ridiculous. The courts should be ashamed.
Disabled woman, 49, who gestured for a cyclist to move off the pavement and onto road seconds before she was hit and killed by a car is jailed for three years for MANSLAUGHTER
Auriol Grey, 49, raised her hand at cyclist Celia Ward, 77, in Huntingdon, Cambs
Retired grandmother Mrs Ward fell into the road and was killed in a car collision
It's appalling and hopefully that judge is getting the sack for at least the false statements made in sentencing I can't even see how she was found guilty |
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2023 13:34:02 GMT
Thread title is a bit obscure and looks wrong Jonksy
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 13:35:50 GMT
Thread title is a bit obscure and looks wrong Jonksy Seems OK to me... |
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2023 14:00:10 GMT
Boris and other cycling jihadists are not normally considered 'woke'
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 14:04:01 GMT
Boris and other cycling jihadists are not normally considered 'woke' But the legal system is considered woke...
I wonder if the owners of this care home will be prosecuted?
Family demand probe after dementia stricken great-grandmother, 89, left with horrific facial injuries after unexplained incident at her £1,400-a-week care home died months later
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
Nancy, 89, had unexplained brusies on her face while at a Glasgow care home
Her family are still searching for answers about what happened before her death
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Post by patman post on Mar 2, 2023 14:12:41 GMT
Apologies, but unlike pretend Daily Mail staffers, I don’t see the connection between care home disquiet and cyclists ignoring the Highway Code…
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 14:17:20 GMT
Apologies, but unlike pretend Daily Mail staffers, I don’t see the connection between care home disquiet and cyclists ignoring the Highway Code… Will the owners of that care home be prosected to the same extent? I very much doubt that they will, and probably not even be questioned over this assault on a frargile pesrson who is in their care. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2023 14:24:44 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous! Our legal system is an utter disgrace........People have hit and killed people and not even gone to jail. What a mess......This is an absolutely ridiculous decision. Ridiculous. The courts should be ashamed.
Disabled woman, 49, who gestured for a cyclist to move off the pavement and onto road seconds before she was hit and killed by a car is jailed for three years for MANSLAUGHTER
Auriol Grey, 49, raised her hand at cyclist Celia Ward, 77, in Huntingdon, Cambs
Retired grandmother Mrs Ward fell into the road and was killed in a car collision
That is utterly ridiculous. Cycling on the pavement is an offence and it is quite reasonable for a pedestrian to tell a cyclist to get off the pavement.
How on Earth is the pedestrian then responsible for the cyclist falling off in front of a car?
It would of course be different if she'd pushed the cyclist in front of a car but that doesn't appear to be the allegation.
I pretty much assume that judges will be idiots these days but how on Earth did the CPS even charge that?
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Post by Handyman on Mar 2, 2023 16:24:50 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous! Our legal system is an utter disgrace........People have hit and killed people and not even gone to jail. What a mess......This is an absolutely ridiculous decision. Ridiculous. The courts should be ashamed.
Disabled woman, 49, who gestured for a cyclist to move off the pavement and onto road seconds before she was hit and killed by a car is jailed for three years for MANSLAUGHTER
Auriol Grey, 49, raised her hand at cyclist Celia Ward, 77, in Huntingdon, Cambs
Retired grandmother Mrs Ward fell into the road and was killed in a car collision
I disagree that our legal system is a disgrace, however I do think that the elderly lady should have not been cycling on the pavement unless their is a cycle lane marked out on the pavement, it is not allowed The elderly partially sighted pedestrian was probably worried and feared for her safety shouted at the cyclist who lost control and sadly was hit by a vehicle , however I am surprised given the circumstances that the CPS chose to charge her at all let alone with Manslaughter a sledge hammer to crack a walnut IMHO The sentence is far to harsh, you get less than that for carrying a knife, |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 2, 2023 16:45:59 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous! Our legal system is an utter disgrace........People have hit and killed people and not even gone to jail. What a mess......This is an absolutely ridiculous decision. Ridiculous. The courts should be ashamed.
Disabled woman, 49, who gestured for a cyclist to move off the pavement and onto road seconds before she was hit and killed by a car is jailed for three years for MANSLAUGHTER
Auriol Grey, 49, raised her hand at cyclist Celia Ward, 77, in Huntingdon, Cambs
Retired grandmother Mrs Ward fell into the road and was killed in a car collision
I disagree that our legal system is a disgrace, however I do think that the elderly lady should have not been cycling on the pavement unless their is a cycle lane marked out on the pavement, it is not allowed The elderly partially sighted pedestrian was probably worried and feared for her safety shouted at the cyclist who lost control and sadly was hit by a vehicle , however I am surprised given the circumstances that the CPS chose to charge her at all let alone with Manslaughter a sledge hammer to crack a walnut IMHO The sentence is far to harsh, you get less than that for carrying a knife, The legal system is not consistent. We have eco zealots not being prosecuted for blocking our highways and byeways and people being prosecuted on the most flimsiest of wims. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2023 17:16:53 GMT
I am normally cautious about commenting on court cases. However, in this case it appears that the whole incident was captured on CCTV.
And the case turns on whether the pedestrian's actions caused the cyclist to fall in front of the car.
It strikes me that there's two points here:
1) The cyclist clearly had to swerve around the pedestrian in any case, so where's the evidence that she didn't simply misjudge it?
2) And even if the cyclist did fall off because the pedestrian shouted, the pedestrian was entitled to be on the pavement and the cyclist wasn't. Therefore the pedestrian was entitled to shout out, especially if they thought that they were about to be hit by a cyclist.
For either scenario to be deemed manslaughter is absurd: Manslaughter requires Gross negligence or Unlawful act. Where are either of those in this scenario?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2023 17:29:01 GMT
It's appalling and hopefully that judge is getting the sack for at least the false statements made in sentencing... Totally agree: "Shared path", my arse. There are absolutely no markings to indicate that. It's a footpath plain and simple and the judge should have directed a "Not Guilty" verdict. |
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