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Post by sheepy on Mar 4, 2023 8:44:48 GMT
so we should have no testing for anything - just hand out driving Licences for instance because if you fail you might just be having a bad day.. Thanks for exposing your limited depth of thinking. One thing for sure see2 80% of the time you are completely out of your depth.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 4, 2023 8:50:19 GMT
So what have I got wrong exactly? As you seem to think your knowledge is superior to everone else.
EDIT: and it is not a lie there is enough info out there if you care to look.
The lie is that you claimed 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped. That is not true. What made it a lie instead of a mistake is that when I pointed it out you made no attempt to correct it. There is NO evidence out there that 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped because it hasn't happened. I do not presume I am more intelligent than anyone, but I do take what people say at face value and speak as I find. For instance when Pacifico states the national grid are going to drain your car battery overnight that is clearly either stupid or a lie, which would you like me to treat it as?Are you saying there is no proposal to drain ev batteries at night if the national grid needs it?
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 8:53:23 GMT
The lie is that you claimed 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped. That is not true. What made it a lie instead of a mistake is that when I pointed it out you made no attempt to correct it. There is NO evidence out there that 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped because it hasn't happened. I do not presume I am more intelligent than anyone, but I do take what people say at face value and speak as I find. For instance when Pacifico states the national grid are going to drain your car battery overnight that is clearly either stupid or a lie, which would you like me to treat it as? There is plenty of evidence...And we haven't even touched on the instability of litheum batteries yet Then show it, show me an article saying 12million tons of EV batteries have been dumped. Or join the rest of the mouthy rude liars on here who makes stupid claims and back them up with childish insults instead of links. And you and I will not e discussing the instability until this is settled because it effects the truth of everything else you say to me. Feel free to discuss it with Pacifico if you prefer.
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 9:01:21 GMT
The lie is that you claimed 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped. That is not true. What made it a lie instead of a mistake is that when I pointed it out you made no attempt to correct it. There is NO evidence out there that 12 million tons of EV batteries have been dumped because it hasn't happened. I do not presume I am more intelligent than anyone, but I do take what people say at face value and speak as I find. For instance when Pacifico states the national grid are going to drain your car battery overnight that is clearly either stupid or a lie, which would you like me to treat it as?Are you saying there is no proposal to drain ev batteries at night if the national grid needs it? Very well phrased double negative question, designed I presume to make answering difficult. Still I'm used to those shenanigans on here. I am saying there is no proposal to leave anyone with a flat battery in the morning. The actual idea is that you arrive home at 6pm with 60% left in your battery, the national grid pay you to use some of that charge to top up supplies during the busy evening period, then when demand falls from about 10pm they switch back to charging your car in the small hours, giving you a full battery next morning. I was rather hoping you might know that (Or look it up) and be more interested in truth than scoring cheap points, but there you go.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 4, 2023 9:03:48 GMT
Are you saying there is no proposal to drain ev batteries at night if the national grid needs it? Very well phrased double negative question, designed I presume to make answering difficult. Still I'm used to those shenanigans on here. I am saying there is no proposal to leave anyone with a flat battery in the morning. The actual idea is that you arrive home at 6pm with 60% left in your battery, the national grid pay you to use some of that charge to top up supplies during the busy evening period, then when demand falls from about 10pm they switch back to charging your car in the small hours, giving you a full battery next morning. I was rather hoping you might know that (Or look it up) and be more interested in truth than scoring cheap points, but there you go. So what happens if they have flattened your battery and there is a power cut?
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 9:09:03 GMT
Very well phrased double negative question, designed I presume to make answering difficult. Still I'm used to those shenanigans on here. I am saying there is no proposal to leave anyone with a flat battery in the morning. The actual idea is that you arrive home at 6pm with 60% left in your battery, the national grid pay you to use some of that charge to top up supplies during the busy evening period, then when demand falls from about 10pm they switch back to charging your car in the small hours, giving you a full battery next morning. I was rather hoping you might know that (Or look it up) and be more interested in truth than scoring cheap points, but there you go. So what happens if they have flattened your battery and there is a power cut? FFS What happens when your low on petrol and the garage hasn't got supplies. There is always an obstacle if you want to find it. But be assured the scheme will be voluntary, so if this worries you then duck out. Not to mention they wont drain your battery flat, so unless you are one of the "Many people you know" who drive from London to Rio every day then you would be Ok.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 4, 2023 9:11:39 GMT
So what happens if they have flattened your battery and there is a power cut? FFS What happens when your low on petrol and the garage hasn't got supplies. There is always an obstacle if you want to find it. But be assured the scheme will be voluntary, so if this worries you then duck out. Not to mention they wont drain your battery flat, so unless you are one of the "Many people you know" who drive from London to Rio every day then you would be Ok. Ah I see so basically you are at the mercy of the grid being reliable and having enough supply, which it doesn't have.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 4, 2023 9:20:41 GMT
The reason I ask is because the engineers at Rolls Royce told me we are running out of time to create a backup system for renewables that are reliant on weather pretty much alone, which in actual fact you back up.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 4, 2023 9:20:43 GMT
Are you saying there is no proposal to drain ev batteries at night if the national grid needs it? Very well phrased double negative question, designed I presume to make answering difficult. Still I'm used to those shenanigans on here. I am saying there is no proposal to leave anyone with a flat battery in the morning. The actual idea is that you arrive home at 6pm with 60% left in your battery, the national grid pay you to use some of that charge to top up supplies during the busy evening period, then when demand falls from about 10pm they switch back to charging your car in the small hours, giving you a full battery next morning. I was rather hoping you might know that (Or look it up) and be more interested in truth than scoring cheap points, but there you go. Cheap point scoring? If you say so I saw your post and remembered there was a proposal and asked a question and have no knowledge of your exchange with Pacifico is that ok?
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 9:54:56 GMT
FFS What happens when your low on petrol and the garage hasn't got supplies. There is always an obstacle if you want to find it. But be assured the scheme will be voluntary, so if this worries you then duck out. Not to mention they wont drain your battery flat, so unless you are one of the "Many people you know" who drive from London to Rio every day then you would be Ok. Ah I see so basically you are at the mercy of the grid being reliable and having enough supply, which it doesn't have. No its as i described. You are at the mercy of the tanker drivers, and we've seen that actually happen. Do tell when was the last time we had a power cut that lasted 10 hours in this country? (And I don't mean when we had huge floods etc, which would stop you travelling anyway)
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Post by see2 on Mar 4, 2023 9:56:44 GMT
1. No one even suggested otherwise, but it is clear that the 11+ was a hit and miss opportunity for youngsters as the system was designed to pass a limited number of individuals through which meant that many capable youngsters never got the opportunity. Opportunity for what?. There will only ever be a select number of kids suitable for higher education - whatever education system you have what has that to do with the daft arbitrary 50% target? Fill your boots ofstedIn fact a whole new business has grown up with advice on getting into the catchment area for the best schools - of course if you are poor you can fuck off. Getting into the catchment area of your child’s ideal secondary school 1. And that limited number just happen to fit in with the shortage of Grammar school places LOL. 2. So you don't understand the benefits from a good start to education, or what targets are about. You just feel the need to denigrate. The 50% target was to be aimed for in the future. 3. You fill your boots and post the relevant information. IIRC, around 45% of comprehensive students pass with GCSEs and that's without the benefits enjoyed by grammar school students.
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 9:57:18 GMT
The reason I ask is because the engineers at Rolls Royce told me we are running out of time to create a backup system for renewables that are reliant on weather pretty much alone, which in actual fact you back up. I have also heard there is such a rush. But the spin is different, we already have a back up to renewable its called gas. The rush is to find a clean alternative and one that does not rely on unstable countries.
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2023 9:59:39 GMT
Very well phrased double negative question, designed I presume to make answering difficult. Still I'm used to those shenanigans on here. I am saying there is no proposal to leave anyone with a flat battery in the morning. The actual idea is that you arrive home at 6pm with 60% left in your battery, the national grid pay you to use some of that charge to top up supplies during the busy evening period, then when demand falls from about 10pm they switch back to charging your car in the small hours, giving you a full battery next morning. I was rather hoping you might know that (Or look it up) and be more interested in truth than scoring cheap points, but there you go. Cheap point scoring? If you say so I saw your post and remembered there was a proposal and asked a question and have no knowledge of your exchange with Pacifico is that ok? OK apologies, though its a bit strange you replied to my post to Pacifico without reading his. Still never mind.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 4, 2023 9:59:53 GMT
Ah I see so basically you are at the mercy of the grid being reliable and having enough supply, which it doesn't have. No its as i described. You are at the mercy of the tanker drivers, and we've seen that actually happen. Do tell when was the last time we had a power cut that lasted 10 hours in this country? (And I don't mean when we had huge floods etc, which would stop you travelling anyway) The thing is I really shouldn't have to explain what I mean, when it should be blatantly obvious you never consider you have other options which make a damn sight more sense future wise, not be constantly relying on things that don't even exist or may never exist. Fine if you want rid of petrol and diesel but not without a sustainable plan, it is utter insanity dressed up as sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 10:10:43 GMT
So what happens if they have flattened your battery and there is a power cut? Oh come on Sheepy, it's all for the greater good, innit.
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