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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 12:22:06 GMT
Last year, July 2022, Starmer broke Labour's silence on Brexit and for the first time publicly stated that a future Labour government would not take the UK back into the EU or the single market. At the time many people were suspicious that Starmers announcement was nothing more than an attempt to appease the majority who voted to leave the EU.
This morning Lisa Nandy said the UK 'needs' a closer relationship with the EU and Labour have teamed up with the LibDems to stop the governments proposed 'Retained EU Law Bill' which will remove EU laws from the statute book by the end of the year. Labour insist the government should keep thousands of EU laws imposed by Brussels. That kinda flies in the face of Starmer announcing that at long last, he accepts Brexit.
I think anyone who trusts Starmer is a bloody fool. A future Labour government may not openly take the UK back into the EU, but they would certainly slowly and quietly hand the UK back to the EU by stealth.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 23, 2023 13:53:12 GMT
Last year, July 2022, Starmer broke Labour's silence on Brexit and for the first time publicly stated that a future Labour government would not take the UK back into the EU or the single market. At the time many people were suspicious that Starmers announcement was nothing more than an attempt to appease the majority who voted to leave the EU. This morning Lisa Nandy said the UK 'needs' a closer relationship with the EU and Labour have teamed up with the LibDems to stop the governments proposed 'Retained EU Law Bill' which will remove EU laws from the statute book by the end of the year. Labour insist the government should keep thousands of EU laws imposed by Brussels. That kinda flies in the face of Starmer announcing that at long last, he accepts Brexit. I think anyone who trusts Starmer is a bloody fool. A future Labour government may not openly take the UK back into the EU, but they would certainly slowly and quietly hand the UK back to the EU by stealth. Starmer is no more than a blatant liar just like the lefty idiots who support him.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 23, 2023 19:58:04 GMT
What starmer states and what is reality are fields apart. Starmer has faced criticism from the left of the Labour party for backtracking on many of the pledges he made during his 2020 leadership campaign. The intervention came ahead of a speech in Manchester, in which Sir Keir will set out the five missions his party would pursue in government covering the economy, the NHS, crime, the climate crisis and education. Momentum, a grassroots organisation representing the left wing of the party, said in a statement on Thursday that Sir Keir’s five missions showed that the pledges made when he ran to succeed Jeremy Corbyn were in “tatters” despite many of them being “more vital and popular now than ever”. The ten pledges Sir Keir made during his leadership campaign included backing public ownership of industries such as railways and energy, increasing taxation on the highest earners and advancing a Green New Deal to tackle climate change. “Given the scale of the crises and inequality facing Britain, these policies are more vital and popular now than ever,” a Momentum spokesperson said.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2023 9:54:38 GMT
Well we do have the Brexiteer PM lauding the benefits for NI of being in the UK market and EU marker, something we all had before we erected trade barriers on ourselves.😂😂
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Post by Bentley on Mar 2, 2023 10:09:05 GMT
Afaik NI is not in the EU single market for services and there is no freedom of movement .
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Post by totheleft3 on Mar 2, 2023 12:37:14 GMT
Lasif year, July 2022, Starmer broke Labour's silence on Brexit and for the first time publicly stated that a future Labour government would not take the UK back into the EU or the single market. At the time many people were suspicious that Starmers announcement was nothing more than an attempt to appease the majority who voted to leave the EU. This morning Lisa Nandy said the UK 'needs' a closer relationship with the EU and Labour have teamed up with the LibDems to stop the governments proposed 'Retained EU Law Bill' which will remove EU laws from the statute book by the end of the year. Labour insist the government should keep thousands of EU laws imposed by Brussels. That kinda flies in the face of Starmer announcing that at long last, he accepts Brexit. I think anyone who trusts Starmer is a bloody fool. A future Labour government may not openly take the UK back into the EU, but they would certainly slowly and quietly hand the UK back to the EU by stealth. It depends on what EU laws starmer wonts saving If its things like like industrial safety laws and food protection laws hes right . its stupid that rusak should impose a blanket ban on all EU laws. its thowing the baby out with the bath water
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Post by Vinny on Mar 2, 2023 13:01:01 GMT
The EU coal phase out laws were a big mistake. We destroyed our coal fired power stations before having alternative generation in place and exacerbated the cost of living problems in our country.
I do not know why you are such a fan.
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Post by totheleft3 on Mar 2, 2023 13:11:40 GMT
The EU coal phase out laws were a big mistake. We destroyed our coal fired power stations before having alternative generation in place and exacerbated the cost of living problems in our country. I do not know why you are such a fan. What you dont understand why i support such EU laws such has industrial health laws and food laws.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 2, 2023 13:16:03 GMT
Our health and safety laws and food laws pre-dated theirs and were higher than their baseline anyway.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 2, 2023 14:22:30 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2023 11:22:34 GMT
Starmer is a proven liar who will say whatever he deems necessary at the time.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 4, 2023 20:52:28 GMT
Starmer expects us to believe he is no longer a Marxist or a socialist, or even left wing. He is doing his best to give the impression he is Blair Mk2. But Starmer is not a centrist, he is not Blair Mk 2, look at his history, he enthusiastically supported Corbyn's Marxist agenda and if you look at his background it's obvious why he supported Corbyn. As a young man Starmer edited a Marxist magazine and went on to become secretary of the Haldane Society of Socialist Lawyers. He is now attempting to distance himself from his own background in an attempt to appear popular to the majority. The man is a fraud, a conman desperate for power.
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