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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2023 9:31:21 GMT
Lets have a discussion about these politically militant farm labourers and the long term effect of their trade unionist ideas (and their strikes).
Many farmers of today would not like such people. But they did what was necessary.
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Post by walterpaisley on Feb 20, 2023 11:04:09 GMT
Tolpuddle Martyrs?
Bunch of Johnny-come-latelys..
A couple of miles from my home was where the Pentrich Revolution kicked off, a decade or so earlier.
I still pop into the Dog Inn for the pub quiz and to discuss the overthrow of the government, occasionally.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 11:21:57 GMT
When I first joined a union I was given a book which included the story of the Tolpuddle Martyrs.
Iirc it was a lie . They weren't killed .
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2023 11:28:56 GMT
Yeah, they weren't killed.
They basically went on strike for better pay.
A decade ago modern farmers would have sacked them, and hired eastern Europeans instead and said the Tolpuddle Martyrs were just lazy.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 11:35:03 GMT
Yeah, they weren't killed. They basically went on strike for better pay. A decade ago modern farmers would have sacked them, and hired eastern Europeans instead and said the Tolpuddle Martyrs were just lazy. Well we already have a leftie that admits he hired East Europeans because they would work hours that the natives would not. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 20, 2023 20:44:19 GMT
A year or so back, on the way home from the Swanage Blues and Roots Festival, we pulled in at the museum to their memory. I found it interesting.
I suppose one should ask to what degree the latest tory legislation will push us back to this situation, and whether protest leaders who declare live on TV that deaths in ambulances held up by their protests are totally justified by the cause they are protesting about are in some way contributing to that hardening of attitudes.
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Post by sword on Feb 20, 2023 23:08:23 GMT
Those Men were transported in chains to Australia,their crime forming a society these days a trade Union for better conditions and pay,there are some lunatic rightwingers who would do it today if they could.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2023 23:10:55 GMT
Putin would just conscript them, send them to Ukraine and tell them if they didn't fight and kill Ukrainians they'd be shot.
And you'd be alright with that.
Wouldn't you???
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Post by sword on Feb 20, 2023 23:18:14 GMT
Putin would just conscript them, send them to Ukraine and tell them if they didn't fight and kill Ukrainians they'd be shot. And you'd be alright with that. Wouldn't you? You are at it again with your off topic bollocks. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 20, 2023 23:47:10 GMT
Tolpuddle Martyrs? Bunch of Johnny-come-latelys.. A couple of miles from my home was where the Pentrich Revolution kicked off, a decade or so earlier. I still pop into the Dog Inn for the pub quiz and to discuss the overthrow of the government, occasionally. And to re-use an old joke: What Tyler led the Pedants revolt |
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Post by Steve on Feb 20, 2023 23:53:04 GMT
So back on topic Lets have a discussion about these politically militant farm labourers and the long term effect of their trade unionist ideas (and their strikes). Many farmers of today would not like such people. But they did what was necessary. Brave people who along with the Chartists effected much good for the UK Amazing that the law they were convicted and outrageously sentenced under wasn't repealed until 1981 |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 0:40:00 GMT
So, that law existed under multiple Labour governments and was repealed by Margaret Thatcher??? Who'd have thought it!
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 0:44:04 GMT
So, that law existed under multiple Labour governments and was repealed by Margaret Thatcher? Who'd have thought it! Apparently so |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 21, 2023 11:21:24 GMT
So, that law existed under multiple Labour governments and was repealed by Margaret Thatcher? Who'd have thought it! I never realised that. Good God. Next tome some lefty twat campaigner throws the need to vote labour for workers rights in my face they’re getting that chucked straight back |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 11:31:16 GMT
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