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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2023 14:30:49 GMT
And when we have spent the trillions and reached the mythical net zero we will have solved 1% of the global problem.
The ‘perverse’ queueing rule holding back Britain’s push for power Story by Matt Oliver • 4h ago
Just a few miles inland from Morecambe Bay, Lancashire, one of Europe’s largest battery storage sites is about to emerge from a sparse field.
The project on the outskirts of Heysham is being developed by Kona Energy and has already received planning permission, with spades soon to break ground at the site.
It is one of a pipeline of facilities that will form a key pillar of Britain’s future electricity system, with Kona also developing three other schemes in Southern Scotland, North East England and London.
Batteries will be able to suck up excess power generated by wind farms off the coast – and dispense it when the turbines aren’t spinning. The Heysham site will be able to hold 200 megawatts of electricity.
But while the batteries themselves could be up and running as soon as next year, Kona will have to wait another two years for them to be connected to the grid.
In that time, the company will miss out on revenues, while taxpayers will be on the hook for the costs of “curtailment” – industry jargon for the times when National Grid has to pay wind farms to stop generating because there is nowhere to send the power.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 14:43:15 GMT
What eco zealots?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2023 14:45:40 GMT
Take a look in the mirror......You will find one looking right back at you. |
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Post by borchester on Feb 16, 2023 14:49:44 GMT
Anybody you don't like.
I believe in clean energy, organic gardening and push bikes.
And I loathe environmentalists because they are dreary bastards who get their vegtables from Waitrose.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 16, 2023 14:50:44 GMT
Take a look in the mirror......You will find one looking right back at you. LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 15:02:32 GMT
From the OP:
"The Heysham site will be able to hold 200 megawatts of electricity."
That line alone shows the author doesn't know what they are talking about. I stopped reading at that point.
Batteries are terrible earth resource thirsty and for such a short lived return. Money better spent on gas fired power station, but if the idea is to disable and bankrupt the country, keep going.
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 19, 2023 7:23:46 GMT
From the OP: "The Heysham site will be able to hold 200 megawatts of electricity." That line alone shows the author doesn't know what they are talking about. I stopped reading at that point. Yes. That's a measure of power not energy - probably means 200 MWh. And the problem with that is that it's actually not much energy. My 4kW array on the garage roof can generate 20KWh on an average summer's day and that doesn't power a house for very long. But the batteries will still be very expensive. Li-ion batteries cost about £100/KWh now, so 200MWh would cost £100 million - and not power many houses. That's the problem with storing electricity in batteries - it's extremely expensive and very destructive to the environment. It's also bloody dangerous to have a vast number of huge batteries in one place. It had better be a long way from habitation because if one of them overheats and explodes the whole lot will go off like a tactical nuclear weapon. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 8:48:40 GMT
Take a look in the mirror......You will find one looking right back at you. Did that, saw someone that cares about the environment. Does your mirror show something different? |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 19, 2023 8:50:53 GMT
Take a look in the mirror......You will find one looking right back at you. Did that, saw someone that cares about the environment. Does your mirror show something different?Yep.....A fucking easily fooled idiot. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 10:12:54 GMT
Did that, saw someone that cares about the environment. Does your mirror show something different?Yep.....A fucking easily fooled idiot. You do realise that when you look in a mirror you see a reflection of yourself, don't you? But hey ho admitting your failings is the first step to recovery. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 19, 2023 10:38:29 GMT
Yep.....A fucking easily fooled idiot. You do realise that when you look in a mirror you see a reflection of yourself, don't you? But hey ho admitting your failings is the first step to recovery.You have a steep flight of stairs to climb. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2023 11:47:59 GMT
From the OP: "The Heysham site will be able to hold 200 megawatts of electricity." That line alone shows the author doesn't know what they are talking about. I stopped reading at that point. Batteries are terrible earth resource thirsty and for such a short lived return. Money better spent on gas fired power station, but if the idea is to disable and bankrupt the country, keep going. The idea is to eventually make the UK self sufficient in energy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 13:16:41 GMT
From the OP: "The Heysham site will be able to hold 200 megawatts of electricity." That line alone shows the author doesn't know what they are talking about. I stopped reading at that point. Batteries are terrible earth resource thirsty and for such a short lived return. Money better spent on gas fired power station, but if the idea is to disable and bankrupt the country, keep going. The idea is to eventually make the UK self sufficient in energy. Yes, get fracking and building nuclear, too. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2023 17:34:45 GMT
The idea is to eventually make the UK self sufficient in energy. Yes, get fracking and building nuclear, too. I'm not totally against either, but both do have their own problems. If clean green energy is a posibility then I'm all for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 17:56:30 GMT
Those that refuse to accept that there s a crisis, and refuse to accept global warming are becoming increasingly isolated.
Now, all the main political parties are committed to taking action, and its under the Conservatives that the committment to completely ban the sale of all new petrol and diesel vehicles will come into force in 7 years from now.
More that one third of the UKs total energy production is now renewable, and growing.
Theres no escape from the Green Revolution, ALL the political parties are committed to it
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