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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 14, 2023 13:51:46 GMT
You're the one that's been caught out, did you need me to explain irony to you? Steve you come on this forum with the sole intent of confrontation and aggro, I would struggle to find one post of yours that isn't confrontational, and it's not just one poster or two posters, it's most posters, doesn't that tell you something? The problem being you lack debating skills so have to resort to your usual bitching.
We know you like the last word, but give it a rest, you are becoming so predictably tiresome, and I have no intentions of 'feeding the forum troll'.
Bye bye.
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Post by Steve on Feb 14, 2023 14:40:32 GMT
You're the one that's been caught out, did you need me to explain irony to you? Steve you come on this forum with the sole intent of confrontation and aggro, I would struggle to find one post of yours that isn't confrontational, and it's not just one poster or two posters, it's most posters, doesn't that tell you something? The problem being you lack debating skills so have to resort to your usual bitching.
We know you like the last word, but give it a rest, you are becoming so predictably tiresome, and I have no intentions of 'feeding the forum troll'.
Bye bye.
Well I'd encourage you to actually look before you brag Looking through my posts you seem to find any expressed disagreement with your views as 'confrontation and aggro'. You do know debate is about positioning and challenging views don't you. Frankly for you to go off on one with personal attacks because I called your post 'irony' and then criticised the tabloids suggests it's more you that has a prime intent of confrontation and aggro when you see views you dislike.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 14, 2023 14:57:25 GMT
I have a Huawei Mate. It cost £40 brand new and does pretty much what any other smartphone does. Plus, it reports anything you say or message that's of interest back to Beijing's CPC central — so I reckon you're safe... The CPC like me.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 14, 2023 17:24:15 GMT
The truth is many people are seriously scared of Rayner's ability to bluntly hold this government to account. They know she is a vote winner for the demographics that middle class voter man Starmer doesn't reach. So they have to post fake story after fake story and silly jibe after silly jibe You can always rely on rayner to get coaught with her kecks araound her ankles..
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Post by jonksy on Feb 14, 2023 17:29:07 GMT
Why Labour’s attack on Tory expenses will come back to bite them Opinion by Michael Deacon • 10h ago adly for Labour, their ingenious new attack on the Tories didn’t work out entirely as planned. Yesterday morning Slapper rayner was sent out to do a series of interviews accusing Government ministers of making exorbitant expenses claims. Unfortunately, however, she ended up spending much of her time having to answer questions about her own expenses claims. For example, £249 for a pair of personalised Apple AirPods – to use with an £1,619 iPad Pro.
Even if Slapper rayner had never claimed so much as a toothpick, however, Labour’s argument would still have been nonsense. Their main gripe is that, while travelling abroad for major international summits, senior Government ministers have been staying in five star hotels. Well, yes. And so they should. Because if they didn’t, it would be a national embarrassment. For pity’s sake. We pay for our ministers to stay in the lap of luxury not because we think they are godlike beings who deserve to be pampered and indulged at every turn. We do it to preserve our country’s dignity. How would it make Britain look to the rest of the world, if all the other statesmen at a global summit are staying in five star hotels while their British counterpart has to scuttle off every night to the local Travelodge?
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 17:49:16 GMT
I remind you of the introduction to A Treatise of Human Nature (1739-40) by Hume.
Just about everything has moved on since 1739-40. People should get excited about new understandings and new insights, if they didn't we would still be living in caves. The Amygdala and its function, is a very modern term for what is often referred to as 'An early warning system' warning for actual and or perceived danger. It learns, remembers and reacts (instant reaction) to possible danger sending out signals that change the hormonal and nervous systems either full into or part into (i.e. red or amber light.) of 'flight or fight' readiness. If "Hume" had known as much as is known today about the human condition, he would have written a very different "Treatise of Human Nature".
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 17:55:30 GMT
The truth is many people are seriously scared of Rayner's ability to bluntly hold this government to account. They know she is a vote winner for the demographics that middle class voter man Starmer doesn't reach. So they have to post fake story after fake story and silly jibe after silly jibe You can always rely on rayner to get coaught with her kecks araound her ankles.. It's beginning to look like you get a kick out of thinking of Rayner with her "kecks around her ankles"? Does you wife know?
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 18:00:20 GMT
Why Labour’s attack on Tory expenses will come back to bite them Opinion by Michael Deacon • 10h ago adly for Labour, their ingenious new attack on the Tories didn’t work out entirely as planned. Yesterday morning Slapper rayner was sent out to do a series of interviews accusing Government ministers of making exorbitant expenses claims. Unfortunately, however, she ended up spending much of her time having to answer questions about her own expenses claims. For example, £249 for a pair of personalised Apple AirPods – to use with an £1,619 iPad Pro.
Even if Slapper rayner had never claimed so much as a toothpick, however, Labour’s argument would still have been nonsense. Their main gripe is that, while travelling abroad for major international summits, senior Government ministers have been staying in five star hotels. Well, yes. And so they should. Because if they didn’t, it would be a national embarrassment. For pity’s sake. We pay for our ministers to stay in the lap of luxury not because we think they are godlike beings who deserve to be pampered and indulged at every turn. We do it to preserve our country’s dignity. How would it make Britain look to the rest of the world, if all the other statesmen at a global summit are staying in five star hotels while their British counterpart has to scuttle off every night to the local Travelodge?
That might be the best picture of Rayner you have posted. ---- The plot thickens
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 14, 2023 18:30:35 GMT
I remind you of the introduction to A Treatise of Human Nature (1739-40) by Hume.
Just about everything has moved on since 1739-40. People should get excited about new understandings and new insights, if they didn't we would still be living in caves. The Amygdala and its function, is a very modern term for what is often referred to as 'An early warning system' warning for actual and or perceived danger. It learns, remembers and reacts (instant reaction) to possible danger sending out signals that change the hormonal and nervous systems either full into or part into (i.e. red or amber light.) of 'flight or fight' readiness. If "Hume" had known as much as is known today about the human condition, he would have written a very different "Treatise of Human Nature". We would still be in the dark today without Hume. I see him as important as Newton. If you read the book you would see what he was grappling with. We would not have science because the scientific method came from his ideas. He set the ball rolling.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 14, 2023 18:48:51 GMT
You're the one that's been caught out, did you need me to explain irony to you? Steve you come on this forum with the sole intent of confrontation and aggro, I would struggle to find one post of yours that isn't confrontational, and it's not just one poster or two posters, it's most posters, doesn't that tell you something? The problem being you lack debating skills so have to resort to your usual bitching.
We know you like the last word, but give it a rest, you are becoming so predictably tiresome, and I have no intentions of 'feeding the forum troll'.
Bye bye.
FS, I don't disagree with you, Steve's always been the same. But it's all good fun.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 14, 2023 18:53:15 GMT
Steve you come on this forum with the sole intent of confrontation and aggro, I would struggle to find one post of yours that isn't confrontational, and it's not just one poster or two posters, it's most posters, doesn't that tell you something? The problem being you lack debating skills so have to resort to your usual bitching.
We know you like the last word, but give it a rest, you are becoming so predictably tiresome, and I have no intentions of 'feeding the forum troll'.
Bye bye.
FS, I don't disagree with you, Steve's always been the same. But it's all good fun. Fun and Steve in the same sentence, you've given me a chuckle there Red LOL
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Post by Steve on Feb 14, 2023 20:31:43 GMT
DNFTTs
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Post by see2 on Feb 15, 2023 10:49:23 GMT
Just about everything has moved on since 1739-40. People should get excited about new understandings and new insights, if they didn't we would still be living in caves. The Amygdala and its function, is a very modern term for what is often referred to as 'An early warning system' warning for actual and or perceived danger. It learns, remembers and reacts (instant reaction) to possible danger sending out signals that change the hormonal and nervous systems either full into or part into (i.e. red or amber light.) of 'flight or fight' readiness. If "Hume" had known as much as is known today about the human condition, he would have written a very different "Treatise of Human Nature". We would still be in the dark today without Hume. I see him as important as Newton. If you read the book you would see what he was grappling with. We would not have science because the scientific method came from his ideas. He set the ball rolling. I acknowledge Hume's insights and contributions to understanding the human condition. It was nevertheless impossible for him TO KNOW as much about the human condition as he would know if he was alive today. He could have no idea of how the brain functions i.e. of the actual mechanics of the human brain. It would have been possible for him to theorize about human reactions and human thinking back then, but many of the human reactions and thinking would have been heavily influenced by the human understanding of the world they lived in at that time, which was very different to the world with very different expectations to the world people live in today.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 15, 2023 13:13:59 GMT
We would still be in the dark today without Hume. I see him as important as Newton. If you read the book you would see what he was grappling with. We would not have science because the scientific method came from his ideas. He set the ball rolling. I acknowledge Hume's insights and contributions to understanding the human condition. It was nevertheless impossible for him TO KNOW as much about the human condition as he would know if he was alive today. He could have no idea of how the brain functions i.e. of the actual mechanics of the human brain. It would have been possible for him to theorize about human reactions and human thinking back then, but many of the human reactions and thinking would have been heavily influenced by the human understanding of the world they lived in at that time, which was very different to the world with very different expectations to the world people live in today. In his time the prevailing wisdom of the human body was the Greek theory of the four humours. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. What Hume is known for today is being the father of empiricism. Science is all based on experiments with various substances and observing what they do under different experimental conditions. When he stepped into the world the way you understood what the problem was, was through religion. Had you upset the gods and so on. Can't you see that if this step had not been taken we would still be on the same level of intellect as tribesmen in a jungle. It's knowing where to start. You see science as obvious now, but it never existed in his age. He had to invent it. The way he did though is fascinating. It is very difficult to follow mind you. Of course it is easy to scoff at him in hindsight, but seeing how he did it shows what a huge step he made, even in a rather obscure and very confusing way, he made it across the river and set it all in motion. what followed was the period of the Enlightenment. Hume's the man responsible for everything that followed like the first industrial revolution in the world. The remarkable thing is he wrote this book very early on in his life.
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Post by see2 on Feb 15, 2023 16:21:45 GMT
I acknowledge Hume's insights and contributions to understanding the human condition. It was nevertheless impossible for him TO KNOW as much about the human condition as he would know if he was alive today. He could have no idea of how the brain functions i.e. of the actual mechanics of the human brain. It would have been possible for him to theorize about human reactions and human thinking back then, but many of the human reactions and thinking would have been heavily influenced by the human understanding of the world they lived in at that time, which was very different to the world with very different expectations to the world people live in today. In his time the prevailing wisdom of the human body was the Greek theory of the four humours. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. What Hume is known for today is being the father of empiricism. Science is all based on experiments with various substances and observing what they do under different experimental conditions. When he stepped into the world the way you understood what the problem was, was through religion. Had you upset the gods and so on. Can't you see that if this step had not been taken we would still be on the same level of intellect as tribesmen in a jungle. It's knowing where to start. You see science as obvious now, but it never existed in his age. He had to invent it. The way he did though is fascinating. It is very difficult to follow mind you. Of course it is easy to scoff at him in hindsight, but seeing how he did it shows what a huge step he made, even in a rather obscure and very confusing way, he made it across the river and set it all in motion. what followed was the period of the Enlightenment. Hume's the man responsible for everything that followed like the first industrial revolution in the world. The remarkable thing is he wrote this book very early on in his life. "em·piri·cism" philosophy, the theory that all knowledge is based on experience derived from the senses. Stimulated by the rise of experimental science, it developed in the 17th and 18th centuries, expounded in particular by John Locke, George Berkeley, and David Hume." Emotional memory gained through the sensory system and held in memory by the emotional system, is not knowledge known to the thinking brain. This is the point of confusion for philosophers ers.
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