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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 20:51:52 GMT
Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .Its another Stevie debate technique to rewrite what another poster said and swerve the thread into the other poster pointing out that they didn’t and Steve telling what they really meant . Of course by calling Tory MPs scum she is alluding to the voters being at least responsible for scum running the country but to Rayner apologists that makes all the difference. Doesn't he always....Only he is allowed to know what we meant or what we stated... How awkward for you that Bentley has apparently edited his post to withdraw that claim. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 20:57:40 GMT
Doesn't he always....Only he is allowed to know what we meant or what we stated... How awkward for you that Bentley has apparently edited his post to withdraw that claim. How awkward for you that I didn’t. I never said that Rayner called ALL Tories scum . What I did say is that she insulted them ….”Any decent person would accept that this was a scattergun insult aimed at Tories in general” Look Steve is doing exactly what I said he does . |
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Post by see2 on Feb 21, 2023 20:59:54 GMT
Without unequivocal evidence, that ^^^ is just your opinion. Read the words old timer. Read the words . I have read the words, you know that the words taken in isolation, out of context, is the product of the totally biased. Unequivocal evidence would resolve everything, so far, nobody including yourself has any. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 21:01:42 GMT
How awkward for you that Bentley has apparently edited his post to withdraw that claim. How awkward for you that I didn’t. I never said that Rayner called ALL Tories scum . What I did say is that she insulted them ….”Any decent person would accept that this was a scattergun insult aimed at Tories in general” Look Steve is doing exactly what I said he does . Well Jonksy has included a quote ot you that appears to include 'Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .'Did you so post? Because all I can find at the referenced time is a post you've edited that does not contain that |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 21:09:01 GMT
How awkward for you that I didn’t. I never said that Rayner called ALL Tories scum . What I did say is that she insulted them ….”Any decent person would accept that this was a scattergun insult aimed at Tories in general” Look Steve is doing exactly what I said he does . Well Jonksy has included a quote ot you that appears to include 'Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .'Did you so post? Because all I can find at the referenced time is a post you've edited that does not contain that The post I edited has the actual quote that refutes your false claim that I said Rayner called all Tories scum. My edited post was a few posts ago Steve . Dont insinuate I edited the original post . So while we are at it please cut and paste the post where I said Rayner called ALL Tories scum. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 21:09:45 GMT
Read the words old timer. Read the words . I have read the words, you know that the words taken in isolation, out of context, is the product of the totally biased. Unequivocal evidence would resolve everything, so far, nobody including yourself has any. Read then again, get about a bit more and the penny might drop. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 21, 2023 21:44:10 GMT
Imagine the usual lefty condemenation of a female Tory MP flashing her growler at the elected PM of the UK?......And then they wonder why we see them as a joke... The garbage about her "flashing her growler at the PM" was IIRC, an insinuation by a Tory MP, not a real factual accusation that could be backed up. It seems the joke is on you. What is a flashing growler, does it have teeth, come on, I'm not into all these modern medical terms. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 21:46:03 GMT
Well Jonksy has included a quote ot you that appears to include 'Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .'Did you so post? Because all I can find at the referenced time is a post you've edited that does not contain that The post I edited has the actual quote that refutes your false claim that I said Rayner called all Tories scum. My edited post was a few posts ago Steve . Dont insinuate I edited the original post . So while we are at it please cut and paste the post where I said Rayner called ALL Tories scum. Yes or no please. Did you edit your post to remove 'Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .'
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 21:46:15 GMT
The garbage about her "flashing her growler at the PM" was IIRC, an insinuation by a Tory MP, not a real factual accusation that could be backed up. It seems the joke is on you. What is a flashing growler, does it have teeth, come on, I'm not into all these modern medical terms. Not with gums like hers . |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 21:51:30 GMT
The post I edited has the actual quote that refutes your false claim that I said Rayner called all Tories scum. My edited post was a few posts ago Steve . Dont insinuate I edited the original post . So while we are at it please cut and paste the post where I said Rayner called ALL Tories scum. Yes or no please. Did you edit your post to remove 'Not only that but Stevie boy made up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum .'
Yes, I edited it to a single sentence that was briefer. I’ll repost it if you want because Stevie boy did make up a false claim that I asserted that she directly called ALL Tories scum . |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 22:07:51 GMT
Thanks for that I just wanted to be clear whether Jonksy made a false claim or not about your post.
If you look at your Feb 19, 2023 at 9:43pm post and follow on exchange you will see that you blunt and foul worded contradicted my post saying she was only calling selected Tories scum
So when yesterday at 12:27pm I posted You were offensively pushing the false 'she called all Tories scum' line I was fully justified. But you will note that doesn't amount to what you claimed and then retracted about my post. 'Pushing a line' is not the same as asserted.
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Post by see2 on Feb 21, 2023 22:13:41 GMT
The garbage about her "flashing her growler at the PM" was IIRC, an insinuation by a Tory MP, not a real factual accusation that could be backed up. It seems the joke is on you. What is a flashing growler, does it have teeth, come on, I'm not into all these modern medical terms. It is sometimes written as 'flashing her ginger growler'. I think it is something thought up by the nastier side of some right wingers as a reference to Rayner's private sexual parts at the top of her legs. IIRC, it began with an insinuation by a Tory MP claiming that she was distracting Boris by crossing and uncrossing her legs at PMs questions time. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 22:20:28 GMT
Thanks for that I just wanted to be clear whether Jonksy made a false claim or not about your post. If you look at your Feb 19, 2023 at 9:43pm post and follow on exchange you will see that you blunt and foul worded contradicted my post saying she was only calling selected Tories scum So when yesterday at 12:27pm I posted You were offensively pushing the false 'she called all Tories scum' line I was fully justified. But you will note that doesn't amount to what you claimed and then retracted about my post. 'Pushing a line' is not the same as asserted. I didn’t claim it . You haven’t acknowledged that . You tried to ‘ push the line ‘ that one word ie Etonians framed the whole comment . It didn’t . She called the Tory government scum . This must include backbench MPs . By association she insulted all Tories . That is my position . Boris gave her a target but instead of using a stiletto, she threw a grenade . |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 21, 2023 22:24:31 GMT
Iirc she said that she held back and later said she used local language . I can’t be bothered to look because a leftie will come along and tell me what I actually poster. I’m sure Rayner would be great for frightened the life out of the general manager when the toilets are blocked up but as a high functioning politician she just isn’t articulate enough and has problems with boundaries. |
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