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Post by see2 on Feb 19, 2023 17:24:49 GMT
her comment was if reported correctly its a mixed bag starting with 'a bunch' and ending with one person in mind. “We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,” she said at the event, before adding that she had “held back a little”. If Steve is correct and the comment was directed at team Boris --- context --- then it is nowhere as bad as the whingers make out. Another apologist for Rayner. ^( hiding behind the first apologist’s excuses .) Then prove that the earlier information is wrong, otherwise you are just falling for Tory dishonest propaganda, false propaganda as shown and proven about the Tory version of "British jobs for British workers".
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2023 18:11:50 GMT
Another apologist for Rayner. ^( hiding behind the first apologist’s excuses .) Then prove that the earlier information is wrong, otherwise you are just falling for Tory dishonest propaganda, false propaganda as shown and proven about the Tory version of "British jobs for British workers". What are you waffling on about? You have had Rayners words verbatim and you chose to hide behind another apologists feeble efforts to twist them into a lesser insult.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 19, 2023 18:41:13 GMT
Then prove that the earlier information is wrong, otherwise you are just falling for Tory dishonest propaganda, false propaganda as shown and proven about the Tory version of "British jobs for British workers". What are you waffling on about You have had Rayners words verbatim and you chose to hide behind another apologists feeble efforts to twist them into a lesser insult. Does he do anything else but waffle?
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Post by Steve on Feb 19, 2023 21:38:36 GMT
So for a start you missed the word Etonist. But then you carefully miss so much when it suits you Any intelligent person would realise that this “ We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,”“ does not centre around Etonians but includes them within the insult . Any decent person would accept that this was a scattergun insult aimed at Tories in general . According to St Steve the word ‘ Banana republic ‘ means that she was only calling Etonians who govern a banana republic scum . Right Steve Maybe only homophobic, racist, misogynistic, , vile, nasty, Etonians who govern a banana public even? The excuses are endless on planet Steve .😆 She was referring only to the ministers, fact www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58697307 And for those with English as a first language 'Etonian' is clearly an adjective and therefore a qualifier limiting the number of Tories It's plain dishonest to say she was calling all or default Tories 'scum' but I guess you'll continue.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2023 21:43:41 GMT
Any intelligent person would realise that this “ We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,”“ does not centre around Etonians but includes them within the insult . Any decent person would accept that this was a scattergun insult aimed at Tories in general . According to St Steve the word ‘ Banana republic ‘ means that she was only calling Etonians who govern a banana republic scum . Right Steve Maybe only homophobic, racist, misogynistic, , vile, nasty, Etonians who govern a banana public even? The excuses are endless on planet Steve .😆 She was referring only to the ministers, fact www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58697307 And for those with English as a first language 'Etonian' is clearly an adjective and therefore a qualifier limiting the number of Tories It's plain dishonest to say she was calling all or default Tories 'scum' but I guess you'll continue. Bullshit. Your idiotic reasoning could equally apply to Banana republic leaders and misogynists. You are merely doing to Angela what you do…twist other peoples words to suit your agenda . Pathetic , dishonest and ironic . Pity See2 is stooping to your level. As St Steve might say , any decent person would admit your dishonest assertion and apologise .
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Post by Steve on Feb 19, 2023 21:48:49 GMT
I make no apologies for defending anyone from attack by false instrument.
You on the other hand just like attacking people
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2023 22:10:36 GMT
I make no apologies for defending anyone from attack by false instrument. You on the other hand just like attacking people No Stevie. The fragrant Ms Rayner was doing that and like a good little simp you are making up excuses for her.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 19, 2023 22:16:05 GMT
Rayner had a mare of a car crash interview today in the Times - I would have thought her handlers from the Labour Party would have ensured she was better prepared. She doesn't understand the consequences of the Legislation she supports - it's fucking bizarre.
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Post by dodgydave on Feb 20, 2023 2:51:11 GMT
I make no apologies for defending anyone from attack by false instrument. You on the other hand just like attacking people It wasn't a one off though was it? She is well known for using very hostile language (especially against Starmer) including this classic LIVE ON TV:
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Post by Toreador on Feb 20, 2023 7:48:43 GMT
I make no apologies for defending anyone from attack by false instrument. You on the other hand just like attacking people It wasn't a one off though was it? She is well known for using very hostile language (especially against Starmer) including this classic LIVE ON TV: .....or the one where the ever useless Shapps is desperately looking for a hole to crawl down. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEc7Q0DxtAw
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Post by see2 on Feb 20, 2023 9:11:29 GMT
Then prove that the earlier information is wrong, otherwise you are just falling for Tory dishonest propaganda, false propaganda as shown and proven about the Tory version of "British jobs for British workers". What are you waffling on about? You have had Rayners words verbatim and you chose to hide behind another apologists feeble efforts to twist them into a lesser insult. CONTEXT!!
Your posting is without context, Steve's posting adds context. I know you are not stupid so what is your problem?
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Post by see2 on Feb 20, 2023 9:12:33 GMT
What are you waffling on about You have had Rayners words verbatim and you chose to hide behind another apologists feeble efforts to twist them into a lesser insult. Does he do anything else but waffle? Says the master of waffle ^^
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Post by see2 on Feb 20, 2023 9:26:27 GMT
I make no apologies for defending anyone from attack by false instrument. You on the other hand just like attacking people It wasn't a one off though was it? She is well known for using very hostile language (especially against Starmer) including this classic LIVE ON TV: It wasn't even made in public it was AFAIA made to the already converted at a meeting of the already converted. And was aimed at Boris and his close crew. So two things 1. Her comment appears to be fair comment in that context. 2. R/Wing propaganda has then made it into something it isn't. IMO dishonest propaganda like the above should and would be under attack in a society that believes in justice and fairness and acts upon it.
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Post by see2 on Feb 20, 2023 9:32:40 GMT
Rayner had a mare of a car crash interview today in the Times - I would have thought her handlers from the Labour Party would have ensured she was better prepared. She doesn't understand the consequences of the Legislation she supports - it's fucking bizarre. What is "fucking bizarre" is when cowardly know-all's like you stand in judgement, especially when it done behind the safety of a computer.
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Post by see2 on Feb 20, 2023 9:37:41 GMT
She was referring only to the ministers, fact www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58697307 And for those with English as a first language 'Etonian' is clearly an adjective and therefore a qualifier limiting the number of Tories It's plain dishonest to say she was calling all or default Tories 'scum' but I guess you'll continue. Bullshit. Your idiotic reasoning could equally apply to Banana republic leaders and misogynists. You are merely doing to Angela what you do…twist other peoples words to suit your agenda . Pathetic , dishonest and ironic . Pity See2 is stooping to your level. As St Steve might say , any decent person would admit your dishonest assertion and apologise . Pity you are stooping to such a low level of blind stupidity.
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