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Post by Orac on Feb 4, 2023 21:06:56 GMT
You will remain gullible into the start looking at the material you usually ignore.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 4, 2023 21:19:39 GMT
You will remain gullible into the start looking at the material you usually ignore. Not ignoring. Just watching tele with my wife. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 4, 2023 21:22:35 GMT
Pay more attention to your beloved wife and stop posting foolishness to the internet
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 4, 2023 22:20:55 GMT
Not watched the video, but your claim makes no sense when you were talking about whole groups of experts. My guess is your scorn is reserved for experts that disagree with your views. well not that long ago we had a whole group of experts in a thing called SAGE - and they managed to get an awful lot of things wrong. must be the wrong sort of experts.. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 5, 2023 8:03:21 GMT
Not watched the video, but your claim makes no sense when you were talking about whole groups of experts. My guess is your scorn is reserved for experts that disagree with your views. well not that long ago we had a whole group of experts in a thing called SAGE - and they managed to get an awful lot of things wrong. must be the wrong sort of experts.. Well its always bigger to spout what someone else got wrong than what they got right, or to do the job yourself in the first place. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 5, 2023 8:09:10 GMT
well not that long ago we had a whole group of experts in a thing called SAGE - and they managed to get an awful lot of things wrong. must be the wrong sort of experts.. Well its always bigger to spout what someone else got wrong than what they got right, or to do the job yourself in the first place. Organisations like SAGE are neither selected nor paid to get it wrong. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 5, 2023 8:13:47 GMT
well not that long ago we had a whole group of experts in a thing called SAGE - and they managed to get an awful lot of things wrong. must be the wrong sort of experts.. Well its always bigger to spout what someone else got wrong than what they got right, or to do the job yourself in the first place. Well I have posted several examples of groups of experts getting things wrong - so why should we accept at face value the claims of this other group of experts who you claim blame the economic woes on Brexit? |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 5, 2023 8:42:54 GMT
Well its always bigger to spout what someone else got wrong than what they got right, or to do the job yourself in the first place. Well I have posted several examples of groups of experts getting things wrong - so why should we accept at face value the claims of this other group of experts who you claim blame the economic woes on Brexit? You don't have to. I assume by we you speak for you and Sally. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 5, 2023 9:26:13 GMT
Anyway, back on subject.
Does anyone think that instead of simply raising taxes to fill the ever growing gap between productivity and tax needed, would we be better off using the freedoms of Brexit to borrow more to invest in things that might bring in those extra taxes without raising the rate?
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Post by Orac on Feb 5, 2023 10:02:06 GMT
Zany seems absolutely determined to get political control of the UK removed from the people of the UK and given to someone else - by hook or by crook it seems. If they reject one of his mad-cap schemes to disenfranchise them and hand control of the UK over to someone else, he just dreams up with another.
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Post by see2 on Feb 5, 2023 10:19:16 GMT
The difference between an economist's prediction and blindfolded man throwing a dart, is the blindfolded man isn't usually paid to miss the board entirely The majority of UK voter, based upon keeping Thatcher's damaging economic approach ongoing for 11 years, are not in any position to judge "economist's predictions". Predictions are usually based upon previous experiences and expectations, the average voter is overly influenced by media propaganda, Thatcher's period in office is proof of the latter. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 5, 2023 10:28:08 GMT
Currently we are spending around £20 Billion on servicing Government debt - at some point you have to start living within your means. The age old answer would be that borrowing to Invest, to create productive work opportunities that create GDP improve our balance of payments and give people jobs that create tax payments and reduce their welfare benefit demands is a goid thing The problem is of course i have heard dozens talk that talk over the past what fifty ? years and few deliver as promised |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 5, 2023 10:47:10 GMT
Well I have posted several examples of groups of experts getting things wrong - so why should we accept at face value the claims of this other group of experts who you claim blame the economic woes on Brexit? You don't have to. I assume by we you speak for you and Sally.That's because you haven't a fucking clue. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 5, 2023 11:30:32 GMT
Currently we are spending around £20 Billion on servicing Government debt - at some point you have to start living within your means. The age old answer would be that borrowing to Invest, to create productive work opportunities that create GDP improve our balance of payments and give people jobs that create tax payments and reduce their welfare benefit demands is a goid thing The problem is of course i have heard dozens talk that talk over the past what fifty ? years and few deliver as promised Whenever I hear 'borrowing to invest' I immediately think of the Labour Government policy of picking winners in the 70's. Wedgwood Benn was instrumental in creating Meridien Triumph to 'save' the UK motorbike industry - even after pumping in millions of pounds it still went bust and the taxpayer was left out of pocket. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 5, 2023 11:34:48 GMT
The age old answer would be that borrowing to Invest, to create productive work opportunities that create GDP improve our balance of payments and give people jobs that create tax payments and reduce their welfare benefit demands is a goid thing The problem is of course i have heard dozens talk that talk over the past what fifty ? years and few deliver as promised Whenever I hear 'borrowing to invest' I immediately think of the Labour Government policy of picking winners in the 70's. Wedgwood Benn was instrumental in creating Meridien Triumph to 'save' the UK motorbike industry - even after pumping in millions of pounds it still went bust and the taxpayer was left out of pocket. Yes. The question is indeed ‘invest in what’ |
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