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Post by Morgan on Jan 27, 2023 15:02:26 GMT
Tory donors own UK properties via more than 150 offshore firms People including property developers and peers who have collectively donated £21m named on new register Henry Dyer, Rowena Mason, Ben Quinn and Carmen Aguilar García Fri 27 Jan 2023 14.45 GMT Conservative donors who have collectively given the party more than £21m since 2001 have been declared as the ultimate owners of UK properties held through more than 150 offshore companies in a new government register. They include major property developers, such as the Reuben brothers, David and Simon, as well as Nick Candy, a UK-based businessman who owns a £160m flat and other properties through companies based in Guernsey. Others include Mohamed Amersi, the telecoms businessman who owns a London property through a British Virgin Islands (BVI) company, and Sanjeev Gupta, the metals tycoon behind the steel firm Liberty Global, who owns a Chelsea property through a company incorporated in the Bahamas. www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/27/tory-donors-own-uk-properties-via-more-than-150-offshore-firmBut don't worry they are looking after OUR interests. Ho Ho Bleedin' Ho. As if.  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2023 15:07:55 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face.
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Post by Morgan on Jan 27, 2023 15:09:26 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face. ... Next That's only because people don't want to argue because they can't dispute the facts I put on.  |
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Post by dodgydave on Jan 28, 2023 3:28:02 GMT
What is your point exactly?
How else do you fund political parties if it is not through 3rd party donations?
Labour would be fucked for starters with no trade union money lol.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 5:17:17 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face. ... Next That's only because people don't want to argue because they can't dispute t he facts I put on. What facts FFS? How do you think any party is funded? Would your beloved labour louts be here if it wasn't from donations from the unions and other dubious sources including China and Russia. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 5:18:39 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face.
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Post by Morgan on Jan 28, 2023 7:54:58 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face.
... Next Too much Morgan out of a bottle mate. So you can't find a sensible answer and have to resort to abuse and innuendo then? Now pay attention. You fall for it every time. You have to remember that you two half wits don't make one wit between you.  I've told you a million times I don't support Labour but you two are apparently the only two numpties in the country who after 13 years of Tory chaos and you're still chanting "Anyone but Labour." You'll never learn. I am a floating voter. You are supporting a drowning dying party. Kids going hungry to school? Thousands of homeless with no chance of a decent one and all you can cry is "Labour would be worse.Ner ner ner. " You must be bloody mad. |
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Post by Morgan on Jan 28, 2023 7:59:41 GMT
What is your point exactly? How else do you fund political parties if it is not through 3rd party donations? Labour would be fucked for starters with no trade union money lol. The Tories would be fucked without all the tax dodging donors you admire so much. 12 -13 years of falling standards. Education,failing, NHS et.etc.And you still vote for them? You've got to be crackers!!! |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 9:12:50 GMT
Too much Morgan out of a bottle mate. and have to resort to abuse and innuendo then? Now pay attention. You fall for it every time. You have to remember that you two half wits don't make one wit between you. I've told you a million times I don't support Labour but you two are apparently the only two numpties in the country who after 13 years of Tory chaos and you're still chanting "Anyone but Labour." You'll never learn. I am a floating voter. You are supporting a drowning dying party. Kids going hungry to school? Thousands of homeless with no chance of a decent one and all you can cry is "Labour would be worse.Ner ner ner. " You must be bloody mad. I gave you one. What part of all parties rely on donations is it you have a problem with? And what abuse would that be? You poor little sensitive soul.....You bloody closet lefties are all the same, but that is the problem with those who share the same mono cell. You and c2's posts prove otherwise you soon dive in to protect labour but do fuck all else but knock the tories.. We know the tories are shit but they are he best of the bunch at he moment. And it seems I am not the only one to think so. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 9:14:55 GMT
What is your point exactly? How else do you fund political parties if it is not through 3rd party donations? Labour would be fucked for starters with no trade union money lol. The Tories would be fucked without all the tax dodging donors you admire so much. 12 -13 years of falling standards. Education,failing, NHS et.etc.And you still vote for them? You've got to be crackers!!! FFS and of course in your eyes it would be so much better under labour.....I should stick to your comedy mate it's fucking priceless. |
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Post by Morgan on Jan 28, 2023 9:31:08 GMT
The Tories would be fucked without all the tax dodging donors you admire so much. 12 -13 years of falling standards. Education,failing, NHS et.etc.And you still vote for them? You've got to be crackers!!! FFS and of course in your eyes it would be so much better under labour.....I should stick to your comedy mate it's fucking priceless. Now we'll do this one more time and after this I shall enrol you on a course of reading Janet and John books to improve your understanding of the English language. Ready? If someone doesn't support the Tories, it doesn't mean they support Labour. If someone doesn't support Labour it doesn't mean they support the Tories.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 10:08:08 GMT
If I am correct there isn't so much a criticism of the Tory party as a criticism of how they conduct their business affairs particularly with regard to tax havens and loopholes.
Now Labour politicians may do the same. But Morgan named publicly known information about Tory donors.
The question I ask is why if you have so much money that you can afford solicitors and accountants to arrange for tax avoidance, would you pay money into the Tory party.
Possible answers:
The Tories would never pass a law that costs you something
You get invited to the right places and parties where you can do off the record deals.
You can exert a lot of pressure on Tory legislation by threatening to withdraw support.
You get free holidays in each others private getaways including yachts and hotels.
You get to be a Lord where all those benefits multiply just by using the title. Better service, entry into private clubs, special insider information.
The whole thing is like a shadow royalty and it starts with having enough money to pay into it.
It is the unshakable class system that produces more for those inside it and less for those outside it.
It is why so few new homes are being built...too many and the value of the current stock (owned by Tory property companies) goes down.
Why there isn't more internal investment in start ups and venture capital...money is safer abroad and out of the UK where taxes are relatively high.
The whole ancient system of aristocracy and brown paper envelopes will never stop until the country gets rid of the Lords and rid of off shore accounts.
And it can't come fast enough.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 10:16:05 GMT
FFS and of course in your eyes it would be so much better under labour.....I should stick to your comedy mate it's fucking priceless. Now we'll do this one more time and after this I shall enrol you on a course of reading Janet and John books to improve your understanding of the English language. Ready? If someone doesn't support the Tories, it doesn't mean they support Labour. If someone doesn't support Labour it doesn't mean they support the Tories.
Now read that about 48 times and you might remember it. FFS You and the other closet lefty’s are the first to defend labour. Look how you and C2 immediately jumped on this thread…..LOL Like all you lefties your stance proceeds you…. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 10:18:19 GMT
lol seems the Rod Stewart thread fell flat on its face. ... Next These old lefties are not having such a good ride on this forum mate that they have gotten used to on other forums we could mention………Good innit. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 28, 2023 10:32:45 GMT
Too much Morgan out of a bottle mate. So you can't find a sensible answer and have to resort to abuse and innuendo then? Now pay attention. You fall for it every time. You have to remember that you two half wits don't make one wit between you. I've told you a million times I don't support Labour but you two are apparently the only two numpties in the country who after 13 years of Tory chaos and you're still chanting "Anyone but Labour." You'll never learn. I am a floating voter. You are supporting a drowning dying party. Kids going hungry to school? Thousands of homeless with no chance of a decent one and all you can cry is "Labour would be worse.Ner ner ner. " You must be bloody mad. I think it far worse the Labour party being funded by Unions that are bringing the country to a standstill and holding the country to ransom with strikes.
Schools next week, children who lost out education during Covid now being used as political pawns, the Labour party should hang their heads in shame, and Starmer who hasn't got the balls to come right out and condemn these strikes, the shithouse that he is.
The alternative to the Tories is far worse, and most intelligent people know that, Blair single handed fucked up the NHS in 2004, and the NHS has never recovered, one word of advice, if you are a 'floating voter' vote for any one other than Labour, or you might not live to regret it.
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