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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 21, 2023 18:21:13 GMT
I've always liked Sir John Major. He had integrity. He was a pragmatist, didn't follow the party line blindly or pander to his backbenchers. He is staunchly pro European and when his ''bastards'' tried to stab him in the back he stood up to them and called for a leadership poll. He called their bluff. Even after the disastrous end to the Thatcher regime he turned it around and won the next GE. Some of the credit for that goes to the weakness of Kinnock but to succeed from one of the most unpopular PMs of all time (as Thatcher was by the end) and win the next election was remarkable. He genuinely loved sports as well, especially cricket. If you saw him at a sporting event you knew it was because he wanted to be there not just because he wanted to be seen. Blimey Monte, if there was a prize for most nonsense crammed into one post you'd have scooped it with that one! 
Edit: He probably did like cricket though. The boring twat.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 21, 2023 18:23:27 GMT
Blimey Monte, if there was a prize for most nonsense crammed into one post you'd have scooped it with that one! That's the trouble with you single issue voters. He spoke out against Brexit and BoJo's law breaking so you don't see his qualities. You're blinkered.
And you've followed it up with another corker! I must say, you're on form today.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 21, 2023 18:34:23 GMT
That's the trouble with you single issue voters. He spoke out against Brexit and BoJo's law breaking so you don't see his qualities. You're blinkered.
And you've followed it up with another corker! I must say, you're on form today.
...and you have no argument so, true to form, you try to ridicule instead. Much as I love a pithy one liner your's have no teeth. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 21, 2023 19:45:29 GMT
The Poll tax was a complete disaster too. Even when her ministers advised against it and the people revolted at the battle of Trafalgar Square she stubbornly refused to back down. It cost her career and her reputation. If you dug her up tomorrow and brought her back to life she'd still claim it was a good idea. It was a great idea, just poorly implemented. Piss of, I was going to say that.  |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 21, 2023 19:49:53 GMT
The Poll tax was a complete disaster too. Even when her ministers advised against it and the people revolted at the battle of Trafalgar Square she stubbornly refused to back down. It cost her career and her reputation. If you dug her up tomorrow and brought her back to life she'd still claim it was a good idea. It didn't help when that thing Porter was in charge of Westminster council. Thatcher made sure that the jewel in the crown were only paying £98 per year whilst the rest of London were paying over £380 per year. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 21, 2023 19:57:02 GMT
It was a great idea, just poorly implemented. Piss of, I was going to say that. You snooze, you lose.  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 0:33:46 GMT
Thatcher was not only useless she was evil throwing millions of people out of work and increasing the by millions the number of children living in relative poverty, that's just two of many examples. So bad her own party had to get rid of her.
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Post by morayloon on Jan 22, 2023 1:57:58 GMT
I have just noticed this thread. Why is it not letting me vote? Just to say that my vote would have went for Attlee. It was his Government that gave us the NHS. Thatcher began the process of chipping away at it, she also destroyed the industrial base and started the curtailment of workers rights. Her attacks on the Unions were ott and as studies into the Miners' strike show, her actions verged on the criminal. " It also emerged in the course of the trial that new and unlawful public order policing tactics set out in a secret police manual had been used for the first time at Orgreave. At times the trial descended into farce, and the Prosecution, cutting its losses, dropped the cases of the remaining 80 miners" otjc.org.uk/about/ |
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Post by morayloon on Jan 22, 2023 2:03:01 GMT
All sorted, Just voted
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2023 14:34:51 GMT
I've always liked Sir John Major. He had integrity. He was a pragmatist, didn't follow the party line blindly or pander to his backbenchers. He is staunchly pro European and when his ''bastards'' tried to stab him in the back he stood up to them and called for a leadership poll. He called their bluff. Even after the disastrous end to the Thatcher regime he turned it around and won the next GE. Some of the credit for that goes to the weakness of Kinnock but to succeed from one of the most unpopular PMs of all time (as Thatcher was by the end) and win the next election was remarkable. He genuinely loved sports as well, especially cricket. If you saw him at a sporting event you knew it was because he wanted to be there not just because he wanted to be seen. The cherry on the turd that was Majors premiership, was him refusing the people a referendum when he handed the UK to his beloved EU. The treacherous bastard should have been charged with treason. Instead, the pro EU authorities handed him a knighthood. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 14:42:23 GMT
But for Attlee the UK would still be battling some of the pre WWII horrors that he eliminated.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 22, 2023 17:36:09 GMT
But for Attlee the UK would still be battling some of the pre WWII horrors that he eliminated. Such as? |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 22, 2023 17:41:10 GMT
But for Attlee the UK would still be battling some of the pre WWII horrors that he eliminated. Such as? Distributing Marshall Aid money to the wrong causes instead of using it to rebuild British infrastructure and industry, he chose nationalisation. See2 knows this. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 22, 2023 18:00:42 GMT
In 1978, during a TV interview Thatcher was asked what she would do if the miners went on strike and tried to bring down the government, as they did with Edward Heath. Up until this question she had come across as intelligent and clear thinking. Her response was to jerk her head round and glare at the camera ... with an extremely menacing look in her eyes. Her mouth opened and, in a weird guttural voice, she said: "Well! One doesn't apply one's FINAL SOLUTION until one's tried everything else!" She then jerked her head back to looking at the interviewer and barked at him: "Does one!" He almost fell over the back of his chair. The next day large numbers of "Thatcher worshippers" were going around saying: "That's what the country needs... a dictator!" Her use of "Final solution" energised her campaign to take over the country and submit it to her will.
Her speeches often included significant words and phrases that were used by prominent politicians from all sides of the fence during the pre-war power struggle.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2023 18:19:31 GMT
Theresa May! LOL come on fess up, who thinks that of all the prime ministers we have had over the past 80 years, Theresa May was the best? LOL oh my aching sides, come on fess up who was it...
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