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Post by research0it on Jan 18, 2023 12:10:12 GMT
Hi everyone,
please do not turn this into a shouting match - I'm looking for the facts
So the main reason given by the UK government for blocking this act is that it conflicts with the 2010 Equalities act.
Yet I've compared the Equalities Act with the 2004 GRA act in the UK, and cannot find anything more or less compatible here than with the act recently passed in Scotland. So what is the principle?
For example, the 2004 UK GRA allows people with penises to access women only areas, or get transferred to female prisons, so what is the issue?
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Post by happyjack on Jan 18, 2023 13:52:55 GMT
I don’t understand why there has been such a stooshie about this act (although extending the provisions to 16 and 17 year olds is concerning) or why the UK government has come to the conclusion that it has. However, I think that it fairly safe to assume that it has not done so maliciously (not least because it would be damaging for them to have done so) and that they therefore have good reason to feel as they do. As Sturgeon has made it clear that ScotGov will not compromise on its stance then this is going to the Supreme Court, at which point (if not before) we will find out the detail of UK government’s concerns..
I also don’t understand why the provisions of the act can’t apply to Scottish residents whilst in Scotland but not when they visit other parts of UK. That principle applies to other areas where there are different legal provisions, so why not here?
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Post by research0it on Jan 18, 2023 14:40:26 GMT
I don’t understand why there has been such a stooshie about this act (although extending the provisions to 16 and 17 year olds is concerning) or why the UK government has come to the conclusion that it has. However, I think that it fairly safe to assume that it has not done so maliciously (not least because it would be damaging for them to have done so) and that they therefore have good reason to feel as they do. As Sturgeon has made it clear that ScotGov will not compromise on its stance then this is going to the Supreme Court, at which point (if not before) we will find out the detail of UK government’s concerns.. I also don’t understand why the provisions of the act can’t apply to Scottish residents whilst in Scotland but not when they visit other parts of UK. That principle applies to other areas where there are different legal provisions, so why not here? Hi happyjack I don't understand either. I would say that I consider that Nicola Sturgeon might be better playing the "bigger man" and exploring with the uk government whether there's a compromise possible. If not then maybe go the legal route, but don't threaten it right now. |
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