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Post by sheepy on Nov 3, 2022 7:36:56 GMT
They own it, they can do what they like with it, I am not so sure they have changed the image of the mini enough that it will be so successful made anywhere else but the UK though.It isn't just the name but what it represented, they even had to build it into the rear lights.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 3, 2022 8:24:59 GMT
They own it, they can do what they like with it, I am not so sure they have changed the image of the mini enough that it will be so successful made anywhere else but the UK though.It isn't just the name but what it represented, they even had to build it into the rear lights. The Mini Countryman and the Convertible are assembled in Holland, while the Paceman was assembled in Austria. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 3, 2022 8:33:53 GMT
They own it, they can do what they like with it, I am not so sure they have changed the image of the mini enough that it will be so successful made anywhere else but the UK though.It isn't just the name but what it represented, they even had to build it into the rear lights. The Mini Countryman and the Convertible are assembled in Holland, while the Paceman was assembled in Austria. Be interesting to see how they will make it somehow fit the global corporate image when it is no longer built where everything that has made it a success is based. The shell might be there but the heart will have stopped beating. |
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Post by patman post on Nov 3, 2022 10:36:13 GMT
Yep. I remember Ford blaming Brexit when they moved production to Turkey which, last I checked, isn't in the EU either. Turkey is in a customs union with the EU — Ford obviously saw how things were likely to go with the UK… |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 3, 2022 10:45:54 GMT
Turkey is in a customs union with the EU — Ford obviously saw how things were likely to go with the UK… Quite possibly, although there were plenty of EU nations that they could have picked and didn't. Which strongly suggests that they would done the same regardless of EU/Customs union membership. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 3, 2022 11:02:47 GMT
The Mini Countryman and the Convertible are assembled in Holland, while the Paceman was assembled in Austria. Be interesting to see how they will make it somehow fit the global corporate image when it is no longer built where everything that has made it a success is based. The shell might be there but the heart will have stopped beating. Everything that has made the mini a success is hype. They were one of the shittiest cars around. The suspension was horrible, the motor was pathetic and it was totally cramped. I could never understand why people bought them and assumed it was that it was the poor man's car.
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Post by patman post on Nov 3, 2022 11:49:38 GMT
Turkey is in a customs union with the EU — Ford obviously saw how things were likely to go with the UK… Quite possibly, although there were plenty of EU nations that they could have picked and didn't. Which strongly suggests that they would done the same regardless of EU/Customs union membership. But the additional effort required from companies operating from the UK once the implications of Brexit became known wouldn't have helped to keep activities in the UK.
Today, the company employs about 42,000 people in Europe and maintains a manufacturing presence in the United Kingdom, Germany, Turkey, Spain, Romania and Russia at 10 wholly-owned plants and four unconsolidated joint-venture facilities, according to Ford.
Already, most of Ford's plants in Europe are earmarked for EV investments. It has announced plans, for example, to convert a transmission plant in the U.K. into an electric power unit operation, build EVs in Cologne, assemble electric commercial vans at a plant in Turkey and build a new light commercial vehicle, including an electrified version, at a plant in Romania.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 3, 2022 12:04:16 GMT
So they still have operations in the UK.
So the decision to move some parts to Turkey is not Brexit related.
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Post by bancroft on Nov 3, 2022 13:19:11 GMT
It is strange that Turkey is in a customs union with the EU though without FOM?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2022 11:16:16 GMT
The Mini Countryman and the Convertible are assembled in Holland, while the Paceman was assembled in Austria. Be interesting to see how they will make it somehow fit the global corporate image when it is no longer built where everything that has made it a success is based. The shell might be there but the heart will have stopped beating. This is everything that made it successful. I'll quote its wiki page as it is very short:
Like the mini, it too no longer exists. All we have are memories and brand names.
When you talk about success, you have to realise Britain has made many firms unsuccessful.
The Aston Martin though is still a going concern and so is Eon studios.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2022 11:16:47 GMT
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Post by Orac on Nov 5, 2022 10:15:26 GMT
It is strange that Turkey is in a customs union with the EU though without FOM? It is isn't it? |
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Post by colbops on Nov 5, 2022 10:33:36 GMT
It is strange that Turkey is in a customs union with the EU though without FOM? It is isn't it? It is indeed. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 8, 2022 12:45:42 GMT
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 9, 2022 7:45:09 GMT
It is odd. I guess the EU didn't want to give visa free travel to £80 million Turks. But then again they did open talks with Turkey to become a full member of the EU - which have stalled. |
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