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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 18:54:34 GMT
Westminster want your oil revenues. Don't flatter yourself that it is any more than that, once the oil reserves drop away you will be out of the Union faster than you can blink, you just have to be patient. No Westminster parliament, no government and no PM wants to the one in office if and when Scotland leaves the union . If it happens , after the mess that’s left is untangled, England will focus on what is in the interests of the rest of the union . If we need resources and energy then we will acquire them . No one will give a fuck about Scotland ,South of its border , anymore than they do regarding Ireland . Probably less. |
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Post by research0it on Jan 10, 2023 18:55:47 GMT
Hi Bentley Hmmm. You don't care? In the intellectual, neutral way of not caring, almost disinterested? Well, that is definitely my point of view in respect of, for example, Northern Ireland. Beyond believing that it's future is up to the people that live there, I have very little skin in that game. Do you know how someone could tell that? I scarcely look at the part of the boards that deal with it and haven't ever posted there. Nor can I see me doing so, unless something happens along the dramatic lines. Yet many of those who claim not to care about Scotland, are all over this part of the forum like a rash. Bet some of you have posted on this part of the site than any other. So, I'm sceptical about such claims. Tbh you should scroll back to the beginning of the exchange to get an idea of the context that the later posts were made but I wouldn’t bother because they are not worth study . I have suspected for some time that the more rabid Scot Nats not only want to leave the union but they also need to feel that the English want them to stay . I find it curious that they post about how much the English will lose after they leave and tap out post after post of bellicose nonsense about how poor and stupid the English are and how poor the English will be after Scots independence. However I suspect that the everyday English person will not give a backward glance when and if the Scots stomp away from the union . My question was aimed to find out how our resident ranter will feel when he finds this out . As for Scottish politics. I am only interested in how Scottish politics affect England and the rest of the union . I am about as interested in internal Scottish politics as I am with any other boring topic . That doesn’t mean that I can’t take a casual interest or make the occasional comment . Hi Bentley I don't go with that kind of thinking. England and Scotland are both rich countries and will be rich with or without each other. I do tend to think that the whole uk is on a slow downward economic spiral -relatively of course, it's not going to turn into Bangladesh - and that major work is needed to avert that. I still think the union isn't working now, but could be made to work. The question for a fence sitter like me is how likely do I think that a uk government will grasp both nettles? |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 10, 2023 19:00:27 GMT
Westminster want your oil revenues. Don't flatter yourself that it is any more than that, once the oil reserves drop away you will be out of the Union faster than you can blink, you just have to be patient. Mr Stupid once again at his best. Well well well. How long did that take you to work that out. Now tell me what will bankrupt England do. Buy it from Russia. farage and Johnston bought and sold England for Russian gangster gold A parcel o rogues in a nation. www.robertburns.org/works/344.shtml |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:03:06 GMT
The original and first question just for JD. JD..On a scale of 1 to 10 , how disappointed will you be when you realise that the English do not give a fuck about the Scots leaving the union? Westminster wankers are not THE English anymore than Holyrood handjobs are THE sweaty socks . The original answer I do not give a rats crap about what they think. Or your stupid question. As for the 20th time I have just pointed out 270 Tory wankers in Westminster did give a fuck. All but 6 English. The maths way beyond your brain. Could you tell me why 270 Westminster wankers voted making it clear they did care if the Scots left the Union. . Or are you in denial. 18th time I have asked. What's up run out of variation of your stupid question. Then tell me as you do not give a fuck. That is what you said. Why are you on here making a prat of yourself. 120% out of 100%. And rising It was a reasonable question asked at a reasonable part of an earlier exchange . You have framed it around a constantly repeated,scattergun , utterly unreadable rant . And you are STILL incapable of reading a post that you answer . You still keep insisting that Westminster wankers equal the population of England when they are no more the population of England than the Holyrood handjobs are sum of you sweaty socks. As for you insistence that you “ do not give a rats crap( sic)’. It’s obvious that you not only give a ‘ rats crap(sic)’ , you are desperate that they do care . Your posts reveal this in every sentence that you post . |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 10, 2023 19:06:36 GMT
Westminster want your oil revenues. Don't flatter yourself that it is any more than that, once the oil reserves drop away you will be out of the Union faster than you can blink, you just have to be patient. No Westminster parliament, no government and no PM wants to the one in office if and when Scotland leaves the union . If it happens , after the mess that’s left is untangled, England will focus on what is in the interests of the rest of the union . If we need resources and energy then we will acquire them . No one will give a fuck about Scotland ,South of its border , anymore than they do regarding Ireland . Probably less. No matey you will not acquire them. They are owned by the French. Bankrupt England will pay through the nose. As in some 70% of English water is foreign owned and why you pay through the nose to drink your own shite. And for someone who does not give a fuck about Scotland you are doing plenty of not giving a fuck. Trying to convince your self |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 10, 2023 19:12:06 GMT
The original answer I do not give a rats crap about what they think. Or your stupid question. As for the 20th time I have just pointed out 270 Tory wankers in Westminster did give a fuck. All but 6 English. The maths way beyond your brain. Could you tell me why 270 Westminster wankers voted making it clear they did care if the Scots left the Union. . Or are you in denial. 18th time I have asked. What's up run out of variation of your stupid question. Then tell me as you do not give a fuck. That is what you said. Why are you on here making a prat of yourself. 120% out of 100%. And rising It was a reasonable question asked at a reasonable part of an earlier exchange . You have framed it around a constantly repeated,scattergun , utterly unreadable rant . And you are STILL incapable of reading a post that you answer . You still keep insisting that Westminster wankers equal the population of England when they are no more the population of England than the Holyrood handjobs are sum of you sweaty socks. As for you insistence that you “ do not give a rats crap( sic)’. It’s obvious that you not only give a ‘ rats crap(sic)’ , you are desperate that they do care . Your posts reveal this in every sentence that you post . Your qustion was stupid. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and its massive debt. And there is nothing reasonable about you. You are just another stupid deluded little Englander. And i did not mention population as you go of on another load of bollocks. So for some one who does not give a fuck. Why are you on here. Apart from making a total prat of yourself, wrecking threads like the other clowns |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:13:04 GMT
Tbh you should scroll back to the beginning of the exchange to get an idea of the context that the later posts were made but I wouldn’t bother because they are not worth study . I have suspected for some time that the more rabid Scot Nats not only want to leave the union but they also need to feel that the English want them to stay . I find it curious that they post about how much the English will lose after they leave and tap out post after post of bellicose nonsense about how poor and stupid the English are and how poor the English will be after Scots independence. However I suspect that the everyday English person will not give a backward glance when and if the Scots stomp away from the union . My question was aimed to find out how our resident ranter will feel when he finds this out . As for Scottish politics. I am only interested in how Scottish politics affect England and the rest of the union . I am about as interested in internal Scottish politics as I am with any other boring topic . That doesn’t mean that I can’t take a casual interest or make the occasional comment . Hi Bentley I don't go with that kind of thinking. England and Scotland are both rich countries and will be rich with or without each other. I do tend to think that the whole uk is on a slow downward economic spiral -relatively of course, it's not going to turn into Bangladesh - and that major work is needed to avert that. I still think the union isn't working now, but could be made to work. The question for a fence sitter like me is how likely do I think that a uk government will grasp both nettles? The SNP are a one dimensional, one trick pony . Every road leads to independence. So until we grasp THAT nettle the SNP will fester relations with England . We need another referendum or risk a more sinister kind of independence movement imo. If the SNP lose the vote then we as a nation should put this to bed for two or three generations . Otherwise it could prevent long term planning and investment. If they win then we can unravel the Gordian knot of post independence Anglo/ Scot relations and get in with our lives. I dint think that we will miss Scotland and and don’t care if they miss us. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:16:20 GMT
No Westminster parliament, no government and no PM wants to the one in office if and when Scotland leaves the union . If it happens , after the mess that’s left is untangled, England will focus on what is in the interests of the rest of the union . If we need resources and energy then we will acquire them . No one will give a fuck about Scotland ,South of its border , anymore than they do regarding Ireland . Probably less. No matey you will not acquire them. They are owned by the French. Bankrupt England will pay through the nose. As in some 70% of English water is foreign owned and why you pay through the nose to drink your own shite. And for someone who does not give a fuck about Scotland you are doing plenty of not giving a fuck. Trying to convince your self You posted this bullshit the other week and could find no proof that the water English people drink has raw sewage in it . The rest of your post is just a rant that pretty must supports my point ..that you hate the idea that the English will not give a shit if you leave ..then projecting you feelings at me . |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:17:34 GMT
It was a reasonable question asked at a reasonable part of an earlier exchange . You have framed it around a constantly repeated,scattergun , utterly unreadable rant . And you are STILL incapable of reading a post that you answer . You still keep insisting that Westminster wankers equal the population of England when they are no more the population of England than the Holyrood handjobs are sum of you sweaty socks. As for you insistence that you “ do not give a rats crap( sic)’. It’s obvious that you not only give a ‘ rats crap(sic)’ , you are desperate that they do care . Your posts reveal this in every sentence that you post . Your qustion was stupid. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and its massive debt. And there is nothing reasonable about you. You are just another stupid deluded little Englander. And i did not mention population as you go of on another load of bollocks. So for some one who does not give a fuck. Why are you on here. Apart from making a total prat of yourself, wrecking threads like the other clowns More emotional ranting that supports my point . |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 10, 2023 19:18:17 GMT
Hi Bentley I don't go with that kind of thinking. England and Scotland are both rich countries and will be rich with or without each other. I do tend to think that the whole uk is on a slow downward economic spiral -relatively of course, it's not going to turn into Bangladesh - and that major work is needed to avert that. I still think the union isn't working now, but could be made to work. The question for a fence sitter like me is how likely do I think that a uk government will grasp both nettles? The SNP are a one dimensional, one trick pony . Every road leads to independence. So until we grasp THAT nettle the SNP will fester relations with England . We need another referendum or risk a more sinister kind of independence movement imo. If the SNP lose the vote then we as a nation should put this to bed for two or three generations . Otherwise it could prevent long term planning and investment. If they win then we can unravel the Gordian knot of post independence Anglo/ Scot relations and get in with our lives. I dint think that we will miss Scotland and and don’t care if they miss us. Who is the WE in this grasping. Is that you who does not give a fuck about Scotland leaving the Union. . The one trick pony. You into the blue and beyond or something |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:23:12 GMT
The SNP are a one dimensional, one trick pony . Every road leads to independence. So until we grasp THAT nettle the SNP will fester relations with England . We need another referendum or risk a more sinister kind of independence movement imo. If the SNP lose the vote then we as a nation should put this to bed for two or three generations . Otherwise it could prevent long term planning and investment. If they win then we can unravel the Gordian knot of post independence Anglo/ Scot relations and get in with our lives. I dint think that we will miss Scotland and and don’t care if they miss us. Who is the WE in this grasping. Is that you who does not give a fuck about Scotland leaving the Union. . The one trick pony. At the moment Scotland is part of the union . Hence ‘ we’. Now you trying to go down another JD rabbit hole that a comment by me about Scotland refutes a claim that the English won’t give a shit if they do. Yes the SNP are a one trick pony. Rather like your one dimensional reasoning. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 10, 2023 19:25:29 GMT
No matey you will not acquire them. They are owned by the French. Bankrupt England will pay through the nose. As in some 70% of English water is foreign owned and why you pay through the nose to drink your own shite. And for someone who does not give a fuck about Scotland you are doing plenty of not giving a fuck. Trying to convince your self You posted this bullshit the other week and could find no proof that the water English people drink has raw sewage in it . The rest of your post is just a rant that pretty must supports my point ..that you hate the idea that the English will not give a shit if you leave ..then projecting you feelings at me . That is correct matey. That is what I said. Your water is 70% owned by foreigners. Who do not give one rats fart about you as you pay through the nose to drink your own shite . Why they make billions. Some £3billion alone in 2020 Compliments of the Westminster wankers. And if raw sewage is in the supply from the rivers. Asd every river in England is polluted. There is nothing else to prove. Next. I am of to watch the footie. Have a bad night www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/30/more-than-70-per-cent-english-water-industry-foreign-ownershipwww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10503873/Fury-water-companies-make-2-8BILLION-profits-amid-scandal-dumping-raw-sewage-rivers.html |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 19:31:36 GMT
Yet another lie that English tap water contains raw sewage . Just as poorly presented as the last time . |
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Post by research0it on Jan 10, 2023 21:05:29 GMT
Hi Bentley I don't go with that kind of thinking. England and Scotland are both rich countries and will be rich with or without each other. I do tend to think that the whole uk is on a slow downward economic spiral -relatively of course, it's not going to turn into Bangladesh - and that major work is needed to avert that. I still think the union isn't working now, but could be made to work. The question for a fence sitter like me is how likely do I think that a uk government will grasp both nettles? The SNP are a one dimensional, one trick pony . Every road leads to independence. So until we grasp THAT nettle the SNP will fester relations with England . We need another referendum or risk a more sinister kind of independence movement imo. If the SNP lose the vote then we as a nation should put this to bed for two or three generations . Otherwise it could prevent long term planning and investment. If they win then we can unravel the Gordian knot of post independence Anglo/ Scot relations and get in with our lives. I dint think that we will miss Scotland and and don’t care if they miss us. Hi Bentley Depends how you take it. Scottish Independence is not an automatic insult to England or anyone. The SNP are an independence seeking party, so what do you expect them to do? I do think that the SNP should never have taken power in Edinburgh, however. They should have been cooperative with the other parties and worked with them. They should have declared that even if they win the most seats, they would not form a government. That way the issue of Scottish Independence would not get mixed up with things like ferries and whose mess is the nhs. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 10, 2023 21:14:08 GMT
The SNP are a one dimensional, one trick pony . Every road leads to independence. So until we grasp THAT nettle the SNP will fester relations with England . We need another referendum or risk a more sinister kind of independence movement imo. If the SNP lose the vote then we as a nation should put this to bed for two or three generations . Otherwise it could prevent long term planning and investment. If they win then we can unravel the Gordian knot of post independence Anglo/ Scot relations and get in with our lives. I dint think that we will miss Scotland and and don’t care if they miss us. Hi Bentley Depends how you take it. Scottish Independence is not an automatic insult to England or anyone. The SNP are an independence seeking party, so what do you expect them to do? I do think that the SNP should never have taken power in Edinburgh, however. They should have been cooperative with the other parties and worked with them. They should have declared that even if they win the most seats, they would not form a government. That way the issue of Scottish Independence would not get mixed up with things like ferries and whose mess is the nhs. I never claimed that Scottish independence is an insult to anyone . I don’t expect anything from the SNP than what it is. The rabid Scot indies want to portray England as broke and corrupt with Scotland being an oppressed land of milk and honey . Did they make that up themselves or have they been groomed by SNP propaganda? My view is that if Scotland remaining in the union is advantageous to the rest of the union then they should stay . If it is not then they should go . |
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