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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jan 8, 2023 3:59:02 GMT
The demeanour of the pickets near my local station is such that I'm reluctant to engage with them ... they're acting like "a gang of thugs" looking for trouble.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 8, 2023 7:36:41 GMT
Pacifico ... the rail operating companies are private companies, and have very little to do with the government or tax payer. The fact that there are, and always has been guards on trains is a matter of fact, we have always paid for them as passengers, so there s no "extra cost" to incur for either the government or the tax payer. You might regard 2 people as "over-staffing" on a train, but I dont Rail fares are yet again going up this year, just as they have done most years, and often by more than the rate of inflation. Think about this ... if a guard earns £15 per hour, and a train from Leeds to Manchester carries 100 people on a journey time of one hour, that would work out at about 15p ( fifteen pence per passenger ). Its all about the quality of service, not the most basic of service achievable at the lowest cost All rail operating companies are subsidised - so if you want to increase spending on one area how do you intend to pay for it?. You only have effectively 2 options - increase fares or increase taxpayers subsidy. So what is your choice?
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Post by Morgan on Jan 8, 2023 8:33:45 GMT
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Post by Handyman on Jan 8, 2023 9:50:35 GMT
Pacifico ... the rail operating companies are private companies, and have very little to do with the government or tax payer. The fact that there are, and always has been guards on trains is a matter of fact, we have always paid for them as passengers, so there s no "extra cost" to incur for either the government or the tax payer. You might regard 2 people as "over-staffing" on a train, but I dont Rail fares are yet again going up this year, just as they have done most years, and often by more than the rate of inflation. Think about this ... if a guard earns £15 per hour, and a train from Leeds to Manchester carries 100 people on a journey time of one hour, that would work out at about 15p ( fifteen pence per passenger ). Its all about the quality of service, not the most basic of service achievable at the lowest cost All rail operating companies are subsidised - so if you want to increase spending on one area how do you intend to pay for it?. You only have effectively 2 options - increase fares or increase taxpayers subsidy. So what is your choice? Rail Fares are expected to be increased by 5.9% this year I am glad I don't have to use a train to get about it cost commuters a small fortune every year just to get to work, and far to often trains are cancelled or run late
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 13:07:26 GMT
Pacifico wrote ... "All rail operating companies are subsidised - so if you want to increase spending on one area how do you intend to pay for it?. You only have effectively 2 options - increase fares or increase taxpayers subsidy.
So what is your choice?" ------------------------------------
But I dont want to "increase spending", I just want to keep the same level of spending that we have now, and the level of spending and staffing that we are acustomed to.
I do not believe for one moment that one staff member per train is either a better service or safer, do you ?
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 8, 2023 18:07:43 GMT
Pacifico wrote ... "All rail operating companies are subsidised - so if you want to increase spending on one area how do you intend to pay for it?. You only have effectively 2 options - increase fares or increase taxpayers subsidy. So what is your choice?" ------------------------------------ But I dont want to "increase spending", I just want to keep the same level of spending that we have now, and the level of spending and staffing that we are acustomed to. I do not believe for one moment that one staff member per train is either a better service or safer, do you ? Well to answer your second question first there is no evidence that even driverless trains are less safe. With regards to railway budgeting - employees are a cost so if you can save on costs in one area like employees you have more money available to improve services by investing in new signalling, rolling stock, stations etc etc.
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