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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 0:32:35 GMT
Labour WON'T be a tax and spend party, says starmer as he promises 'a decade of national renewal' in keynote speech Keir Starmer will give a keynote speech setting out his vision for UK on Thursday The Labour leader is expected to promise 'a decade of national renewal' But he will say that it cannot be done with a 'big government cheque book again'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 2:59:48 GMT
Labour WON'T be a tax and spend party, says starmer as he promises 'a decade of national renewal' in keynote speech Keir Starmer will give a keynote speech setting out his vision for UK on Thursday The Labour leader is expected to promise 'a decade of national renewal' But he will say that it cannot be done with a 'big government cheque book again'
You quote the Daily Mail as a serious source and have the nerve to call anyone else a comedian? lol
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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 4:47:50 GMT
Labour WON'T be a tax and spend party, says starmer as he promises 'a decade of national renewal' in keynote speech Keir Starmer will give a keynote speech setting out his vision for UK on Thursday The Labour leader is expected to promise 'a decade of national renewal' But he will say that it cannot be done with a 'big government cheque book again'
You quote the Daily Mail as a serious source and have the nerve to call anyone else a comedian? lol It's on all the news sources.
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 10:05:10 GMT
Labour WON'T be a tax and spend party, says starmer as he promises 'a decade of national renewal' in keynote speech Keir Starmer will give a keynote speech setting out his vision for UK on Thursday The Labour leader is expected to promise 'a decade of national renewal' But he will say that it cannot be done with a 'big government cheque book again'
You quote the Daily Mail as a serious source and have the nerve to call anyone else a comedian? lol To be fair to jonsky steve it is on all the news outlets , with the premise starmer is trying to look credible by offering the much maligned voter more austerity under labour .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 11:13:50 GMT
Deja Vu, its all familiar
The lie told by Tories during the 2010 election "Labour have bankrupted the country", when in actual fact it was A) a financial crisis and B) a world recession which forced up borrowing not only here, but across the world.
The truth of today is that the crisis in our NHS and social care can be blamed directly in part at least, upon government policies.
The terrible state of our economy and low growth over 12 years can also be atributed to government policy
The Labour leader is been honest with the electorate, there will be no "quick fix" and no money fountain, but this will disapoint the Silly Left ( whats left of the Corbyn supporters ), as much as the ordinary voter.
Basic economics tells us that growth is the chief ingredient to both prosperity and reducing debt, borrow to invest in that which produces growth, manufacturing, production, industry, enterprise.
The previous Prime Minister actually borrowed to fund tax cuts, and crashed the economy, she must have read Billy Blunders Road to Ruin Economics, but then she was a Tory, and people are still suffering the effects of her short catastrophic reign in power.
The Tories are just going from one blunder to another, time to let someone else run the country, they couldnt do a worse job.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 5, 2023 11:33:47 GMT
Deja Vu, its all familiar The lie told by Tories during the 2010 election "Labour have bankrupted the country", when in actual fact it was A) a financial crisis and B) a world recession which forced up borrowing not only here, but across the world. The truth of today is that the crisis in our NHS and social care can be blamed directly in part at least, upon government policies. The terrible state of our economy and low growth over 12 years can also be atributed to government policy The Labour leader is been honest with the electorate, there will be no "quick fix" and no money fountain, but this will disapoint the Silly Left ( whats left of the Corbyn supporters ), as much as the ordinary voter. Basic economics tells us that growth is the chief ingredient to both prosperity and reducing debt, borrow to invest in that which produces growth, manufacturing, production, industry, enterprise. The previous Prime Minister actually borrowed to fund tax cuts, and crashed the economy, she must have read Billy Blunders Road to Ruin Economics, but then she was a Tory, and people are still suffering the effects of her short catastrophic reign in power. The Tories are just going from one blunder to another, time to let someone else run the country, they couldnt do a worse job. Oh there’s plenty of opportunity to do an even worse job.
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 11:49:16 GMT
Deja Vu, its all familiar The lie told by Tories during the 2010 election "Labour have bankrupted the country", when in actual fact it was A) a financial crisis and B) a world recession which forced up borrowing not only here, but across the world. The truth of today is that the crisis in our NHS and social care can be blamed directly in part at least, upon government policies. The terrible state of our economy and low growth over 12 years can also be atributed to government policy The Labour leader is been honest with the electorate, there will be no "quick fix" and no money fountain, but this will disapoint the Silly Left ( whats left of the Corbyn supporters ), as much as the ordinary voter. Basic economics tells us that growth is the chief ingredient to both prosperity and reducing debt, borrow to invest in that which produces growth, manufacturing, production, industry, enterprise. The previous Prime Minister actually borrowed to fund tax cuts, and crashed the economy, she must have read Billy Blunders Road to Ruin Economics, but then she was a Tory, and people are still suffering the effects of her short catastrophic reign in power. The Tories are just going from one blunder to another, time to let someone else run the country, they couldnt do a worse job. The only thing familiar is your lamentable defence of labour. Heard all of these excuses before.
Remember the last uk labour government was saying this about the disasterous way they had left the uk economy from their 13 woefull years in power , and what their plans were.......
Black hole in the uk finances that darling brown and their pal blair had caused.........and then they left a note for the tories saying the money was all gone , we bankrupted the uk , and they laughed about it.........apparently some sort of joke , only no cunt found it funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 18:01:15 GMT
You quote the Daily Mail as a serious source and have the nerve to call anyone else a comedian? lol It's on all the news sources. So you choose to further your case by quoting one of the least reliable ones? Not very intelligent is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 18:14:55 GMT
You quote the Daily Mail as a serious source and have the nerve to call anyone else a comedian? lol To be fair to jonsky steve it is on all the news outlets , with the premise starmer is trying to look credible by offering the much maligned voter more austerity under labour . In which case why not quote a more reliable source? I might actually read it then.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 5, 2023 18:36:54 GMT
Deja Vu, its all familiar The lie told by Tories during the 2010 election "Labour have bankrupted the country", when in actual fact it was A) a financial crisis and B) a world recession which forced up borrowing not only here, but across the world. The truth of today is that the crisis in our NHS and social care can be blamed directly in part at least, upon government policies. The terrible state of our economy and low growth over 12 years can also be atributed to government policy The Labour leader is been honest with the electorate, there will be no "quick fix" and no money fountain, but this will disapoint the Silly Left ( whats left of the Corbyn supporters ), as much as the ordinary voter. Basic economics tells us that growth is the chief ingredient to both prosperity and reducing debt, borrow to invest in that which produces growth, manufacturing, production, industry, enterprise.Back to picking winners - it really is a return to the 70's..
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Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2023 18:47:18 GMT
It's on all the news sources. So you choose to further your case by quoting one of the least reliable ones? Not very intelligent is it?Oh is that a gnat I hear farting in the rafters?
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Post by thomas on Jan 6, 2023 8:42:32 GMT
To be fair to jonsky steve it is on all the news outlets , with the premise starmer is trying to look credible by offering the much maligned voter more austerity under labour . In which case why not quote a more reliable source? I might actually read it then. I appreciate your disgust at certain outlets , but if we close our minds to every source we disagree with , then we can sometimes be closing our minds to elements of truth and information we might not find elsewhere.
I tend to trawl all the media and sites , dredge much of the bullshit for gems of information.
If i were to sit on sites and media that only broadcast what i want to hear instead of what i need to hear , i would be living in a delusional jerk circle world of make believe.
Sometimes steve on these forums its just easier to lift the first link off google than trawl to a favoured site to satisfy some moral value.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 19:30:23 GMT
In which case why not quote a more reliable source? I might actually read it then. I appreciate your disgust at certain outlets , but if we close our minds to every source we disagree with , then we can sometimes be closing our minds to elements of truth and information we might not find elsewhere.
I tend to trawl all the media and sites , dredge much of the bullshit for gems of information.
If i were to sit on sites and media that only broadcast what i want to hear instead of what i need to hear , i would be living in a delusional jerk circle world of make believe.
Sometimes steve on these forums its just easier to lift the first link off google than trawl to a favoured site to satisfy some moral value.
The Daily Mail is notoriously and exceptionally unreliable. It is not about it's political leanings but its frequent lies, distortions and untruths, often designed to appeal to people's basest prejudices. I don't trust anything it says unless reported somewhere else. Because I have found in the past that even when it reports facts it does so selectively or with an overtly dishonest spin, designed to sell a false reality. The Mail is an exception. I will read most other things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 19:32:50 GMT
So you choose to further your case by quoting one of the least reliable ones? Not very intelligent is it?Oh is that a gnat I hear farting in the rafters? I am tempted to engage you in a battle of wits but you are clearly unarmed.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2023 19:38:30 GMT
Oh is that a gnat I hear farting in the rafters? I am tempted to engage you in a battle of wits but you are clearly unarmed. If wit was shit you would be constipated..... Just another of your trolling posts...I have better hings to do with my time.
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