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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 10:23:51 GMT
Good point.
These tidily scraps of land are all very when it is somewhere such as Barbados and where Charlie can forgo the fees in return for the sun, sea, rum and gaiety of the nation.
But Scotland? Even the midges are on tranquilisers
Ah Botchy the glazed eyed one line wonder. In England the midges have to go to food banks and sit in buses to keep warm. Is there any purpose to your post. You the speech writer for D.Ross Borkie is merely upset at the minute the tories arent doing very well , and mr starmer might be chapping on his allotment shed door asking for more money for the nhs very soon........ |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 5, 2023 10:31:27 GMT
yep.
Well said jaydee. another example in different laws in the differnt countries is the scottish alcohol in the blood limit for driving is different to englands.
how can that be if scotland was extinguished in 1707 and replaced by some mad country that doesnt exist on any map called brittania uk or whatever greater england is deemed to be called.?
I tell you , the english education system , along with news current affairs or even secondary modern studies has a lot to answer for.
Next up happyjack will be telling us god is an englishman and the earth is flat. I get more sense out of buccaner talking shite about fitba than happy talking about this imaginary country called Britain.
Are you still doing your research, lads - or are you too busy plumping up each other’s fragile faux confidence on this one to do any actual digging? As I said before, I am not going to do all the running around for you on this but here’s something that should help you get there a bit quicker. Bear in mind that I have already pointed you at finance legislation so maybe you could start focussing on that. Just to help you a bit more, look for the function that tells you which geographical areas a particular piece of legislation applies to. When you hit one that says “UK” (and you will) then bingo! Oh, WTF. I don’t want to make things too challenging for you or to eat up too much of your valuable time on this, so I have even tried to leave it open at a helpful page. I can do no more ! www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2022/40/section/1?view=extent
Perhaps you could explain how that law applies to Scotland. Tax is retained. The north sea is considered a UK asset. Which means England. Not many oil fields in subsidy junkie London. It has nothing to do with the law of Scotland. If it was the law of Scotland. Instead of getting a share of 8.4% on the tax on oil alone, squandered by the Westminster wankers. None of the tax of some 400,000 workers, or the pension contribution NIC contribution, The downstream tax on that. Or the corporation tax in that sector alone. Which the profit are now paying for the £400 pound, being given to every household in the UK, to assist the energy crises. . Scottish law would be using a 100% share. Which if it had been a law. Scotland would now have a welfare fund of some £700 billion. Around that of Norway. With the same population. Thank you for pointing out how Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. And why bankrupt England would have to borrow at least £100 billion more than it does now. Just to stand still. Let me ask you again. Point to one UK law. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 10:34:59 GMT
Perhaps you could explain how that law applies to Scotland. it appears to be happy jack picking some random link then insinuating that it somehow proves some vague point of his?
I thought it was just me being a bit slow this morning , but thankfully i appear to be not the only one inable to understand happy .
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Post by happyjack on Jan 5, 2023 10:41:00 GMT
Thanks for the link to Energy (Oil and Gas) Profits Levy Act 2022 .
Now whats your point caller?
Oh dear, Thomas. I realise that it was still quite early in the morning when you posted this but you must try a little bit harder to keep up. I was asked to provide an example of a UK law ie. a single legislative instrument that applies to the whole UK. That’s what this is ie. a single piece of legislation for the whole UK that overarches the 3 separate legal systems that operate in different parts of our country. if you want to explore the site further and find some more examples of single pieces of legislation that apply to the whole country then you should find plenty. Just make sure that you activate the “show geographic extent” function as I have on the page that you have visited and then look for the little black lozenge with U.K. in the centre (as you will see in the example that I have taken you to) and you will be staring at another example of a UK law. Have fun! |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 5, 2023 10:47:57 GMT
Scotland wants a lot of things...
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 10:48:32 GMT
Thanks for the link to Energy (Oil and Gas) Profits Levy Act 2022 .
Now whats your point caller?
Oh dear, Thomas. I realise that it was still quite early in the morning when you posted this but you must try a little bit harder to keep up. There appears to be at least two of us ,but no matter , onwards.....
Clearly you dont know the difference between "legisaltion " passed by a parliament , and "law" that it is passed into. dear oh dear.
Perhaps this might help...
No , jaydee has told you , and i repeat , there is UK wide legisaltion on reserved issues , but no uk law.......ie....that legisaltion is passed into English( and welsh) law , scottish , and northern irish.
I mean this isnt just arguing semantics , but the basics of democracy and runinng a country.
If after three hundred odd years , and of course you quote the acts of union when it suits which specifically tells you scottish law remains for all time seperate from english law , then you are either wilfully dishonest or really dont have a clue .
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 10:48:57 GMT
Scotland wants a lot of things... like England not winning the world cup.........  |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 5, 2023 10:56:41 GMT
Thanks for the link to Energy (Oil and Gas) Profits Levy Act 2022 .
Now whats your point caller?
Oh dear, Thomas. I realise that it was still quite early in the morning when you posted this but you must try a little bit harder to keep up. I was asked to provide an example of a UK law ie. a single legislative instrument that applies to the whole UK. That’s what this is ie. a single piece of legislation for the whole UK that overarches the 3 separate legal systems that operate in different parts of our country. if you want to explore the site further and find some more examples of single pieces of legislation that apply to the whole country then you should find plenty. Just make sure that you activate the “show geographic extent” function as I have on the page that you have visited and then look for the little black lozenge with U.K. in the centre (as you will see in the example that I have taken you to) and you will be staring at another example of a UK law. Have fun! Allow me a copy and paste and tell me how it is a UK law. Perhaps you could explain how that law applies to Scotland. Tax is retained. The north sea is considered a UK asset. Which means England. Not many oil fields in subsidy junkie London. It has nothing to do with the law of Scotland. If it was the law of Scotland. Instead of getting a share of 8.4% on the tax on oil alone, squandered by the Westminster wankers. None of the tax of some 400,000 workers, or the pension contribution NIC contribution, The downstream tax on that. Or the corporation tax in that sector alone. Which the profit are now paying for the £400 pound, being given to every household in the UK, to assist the energy crises. . Scottish law would be using a 100% share. Which if it had been a law. Scotland would now have a welfare fund of some £700 billion. Around that of Norway. With the same population. Thank you for pointing out how Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. And why bankrupt England would have to borrow at least £100 billion more than it does now. Just to stand still. Let me ask you again. Point to one UK law. Point to where you see it in Scottish law.. Take your time |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 5, 2023 10:58:37 GMT
Scotland wants a lot of things... No matey Scotland wants to rid itself of the lying Westminster wankers and the corrupt system. Bankrupt England gets everything. Thats the difference between wanting and getting |
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Post by happyjack on Jan 5, 2023 11:08:24 GMT
Oh dear, Thomas. I realise that it was still quite early in the morning when you posted this but you must try a little bit harder to keep up. There appears to be at least two of us ,but no matter , onwards.....
Clearly you dont know the difference between "legisaltion " passed by a parliament , and "law" that it is passed into. dear oh dear.
Perhaps this might help...
No , jaydee has told you , and i repeat , there is UK wide legisaltion on reserved issues , but no uk law.......ie....that legisaltion is passed into English( and welsh) law , scottish , and northern irish.
I mean this isnt just arguing semantics , but the basics of democracy and runinng a country.
If after three hundred odd years , and of course you quote the acts of union when it suits which specifically tells you scottish law remains for all time seperate from english law , then you are either wilfully dishonest or really dont have a clue .
The United Kingdom has four legal systems, each of which derives from a particular geographical area for a variety of historical reasons: English and Welsh law, Scots law, Northern Ireland law,[1] and, since 2007, purely Welsh law (as a result of the passage of Welsh devolution and the Government of Wales Act 2006 by Parliament). Overarching these systems is the law of the United Kingdom, also known as United Kingdom law (often abbreviated UK law), or British law. UK law arises from laws applying to the United Kingdom and/or its citizens as a whole, most obviously constitutional law, but also other areas - for instance, tax. law. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_KingdomI was told that there was no such thing as UK law. There is. I was asked to provide an example of a piece of legislation that applies to the whole country. I have. Now, rather than acknowledge this, you and your side-kick want to change the parameters, not for the first time either. I have only been on this site for a day but I am already starting to see a pattern emerge. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 11:12:07 GMT
There appears to be at least two of us ,but no matter , onwards.....
Clearly you dont know the difference between "legisaltion " passed by a parliament , and "law" that it is passed into. dear oh dear.
Perhaps this might help...
No , jaydee has told you , and i repeat , there is UK wide legisaltion on reserved issues , but no uk law.......ie....that legisaltion is passed into English( and welsh) law , scottish , and northern irish.
I mean this isnt just arguing semantics , but the basics of democracy and runinng a country.
If after three hundred odd years , and of course you quote the acts of union when it suits which specifically tells you scottish law remains for all time seperate from english law , then you are either wilfully dishonest or really dont have a clue .
The United Kingdom has four legal systems, each of which derives from a particular geographical area for a variety of historical reasons: English and Welsh law, Scots law, Northern Ireland law,[1] and, since 2007, purely Welsh law (as a result of the passage of Welsh devolution and the Government of Wales Act 2006 by Parliament). so after page after page of waffle , you "almost" agree with me there is isnt any such thing as uk law?
You could of course argue wales( with devolution) has its own system now , but it still uses english law which is the key difference. The old welsh native laws of hywel dda were abolished in the 16 th century. Scottish law has large differences in prectice with english law and a different origination.
you go on making an extremely poor attempt at sophistry.....
proof please? Once again !
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 11:16:01 GMT
There appears to be at least two of us ,but no matter , onwards.....
Clearly you dont know the difference between "legisaltion " passed by a parliament , and "law" that it is passed into. dear oh dear.
Perhaps this might help...
No , jaydee has told you , and i repeat , there is UK wide legisaltion on reserved issues , but no uk law.......ie....that legisaltion is passed into English( and welsh) law , scottish , and northern irish.
I mean this isnt just arguing semantics , but the basics of democracy and runinng a country.
If after three hundred odd years , and of course you quote the acts of union when it suits which specifically tells you scottish law remains for all time seperate from english law , then you are either wilfully dishonest or really dont have a clue .
UK law arises from laws applying to the United Kingdom and/or its citizens as a whole, most obviously constitutional law, but also other areas - for instance, tax law. Well heres what lord cooper famously had to say about so called "uk " constitutional law in the fifties....
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Post by happyjack on Jan 5, 2023 11:24:06 GMT
Sorry, Thomas. You replied before I could complete my earlier post. I can’t work out how to post a link and an extract from that link at the same time so I just posted the extract, and then went back out to the link to pick up and post the link itself. You jumped in with your reply in the intervening period. I am sure that I will master this eventually but in the meantime I am going to appear very clunky.
Anyway, my point is that my post is now complete and ready for consumption.
And no, I do not almost agree with you that there is no such thing as UK Law.
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Post by thomas on Jan 5, 2023 11:26:42 GMT
And no, I do not almost agree with you that there is no such thing as UK Law. ok i will await your proof once you work out the difference between uk reserved legislation and scottish /english( and welsh) and northern irish law. |
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Post by happyjack on Jan 5, 2023 11:34:22 GMT
I know the difference between these things already but that doesn’t change the fact that UK law exists.
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