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Post by Vinny on Jan 14, 2023 11:39:25 GMT
It is, and we need a better system.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 14, 2023 12:42:08 GMT
Don't understand the "year and a bit" for the next election. Have I missed an announcement, or does someone here have inside knowledge of Tory strategy? Checking shows that the next United Kingdom general election needs to be held no later than 25 January 2025. That's two and a bit years, innit...? It's not so much insider knowledge as the fact that governments prefer not to hold elections in the dead of winter because it adversely affects turnout. So if they can't extend to summer 2025, then they would have to go for summer 2024. As to the muck or nettles non-choice between Tory and Labour, that is the central problem with all our politics. I joined PoFo in 2008 and have spent the intervening fifteen years persistently asking for someone to articulate a reason to vote Tory and the only consistent response (not the only response, just the only consistent one) has been 'because they're not Labour'. Pro rata, there seem to me to be fewer Labour supporters whose motivation is 'because they're not Tory', and most seem able to articulate positive reasons to support their party. Curiously, most of my friends circle are habitual Tory voters, but they too have nothing positive to say about the Tories, other than that Labour would be worse. It's a shit way to govern a country. Carty, this topic was discussed plenty at the old place, particularly by you and me on occasion. Nothing has changed and nothing is about to change while the political status quo remains. People on here and across the country have ever complained about how the established parties fail to even adequately govern, yet those same people will turn out in their millions to vote for those very same parties; it makes one wonder wher Sutch could have done any worse.
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