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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 11:20:47 GMT
If there's aliens wanting to visit us, wanting to be seen, wanting to be known, they'd make their presence known in a way that couldn't be covered up.
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Post by Orac on Jan 23, 2023 11:28:39 GMT
If there's aliens wanting to visit us, wanting to be seen, wanting to be known, they'd make their presence known in a way that couldn't be covered up. That's true. However, what if they don't want to be known? What if they are able to confer advantages and are thereby able to manipulate authorities?
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 23, 2023 12:36:32 GMT
And not a single clear photographs. Not one. How do you explain that ?? … Brain-soaker3 There have been many interesting clear photos, videos taken … and removed by Authority over the last 70 years … their existence denied … the veracity of some often besmirched by this Cover-up programme. Really?? Send me a few clear ones.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 23, 2023 12:52:31 GMT
It seems obvious to me that the aliens are already here and have taken over many of our institutions. This is why many of our institutions are becoming increasingly and overtly anti-human. We are clearly in the 'big push' phase of the alien invasion. This is an interesting comment …. which sounds shocking to those belatedly getting to grips with the idea we are being visited … and many other civilisations are out there. …. Shock 2 … they always have been. Once you are over that shock Authority/Religion deceived so many for 2,000 years … hid the real secret of ‘the Gods’ => Aliens … according to the evidence of Von Daniken and many others following from his lead. People need to understand history shows most alien visitors have not been harmful to us …just observers/lab manipulators - benignly working largely in secret - to nurture this miracle Earth Eden Project that David Attenborough has shown us. Rumour has it - relayed by Abductees/Contactees …. that there has been a battle going on between interested factions over control of Earth for quite some time …looks like the ‘bad guys’ are now in control manipulating things. My guess is extra-terrestrials are not planning an ‘alien invasion’ … just watching on in dismay as we let a few nutter individuals in the CIA that puppeteer and nurture Dr Strangelove nutters in the Pentagon - and Totalitarian Globalists (mainly sadly holding Israeli passports it seems) - sow the seeds of destruction on our Planet while we do nothing and suck on their MSM bs. These are more likely the damaging elements that are running our Institutions … mis-guided humans … running on poisonous dogmas.These ‘Occultists’ who pretend to be looking after our best interests have clearly ‘got in bed with one type of alien …folklore has named the Devil - who allegedly takes on many shape-shifting identities’ … and seems now to be engineering our wipe-out. … Odd …when they could have engineered condom-use and strict birth-control instead! Our species didn’t need to breed out-of-control … and reach ‘pest status’ on this planet.🤔 … but Religion allowed it …bullied it … we never saw the consequences. So now the suspicions we are in a ‘genocide programme’ can be backed up by the latest evidence shared online …( stuff that Authority and Forums are increasingly censoring right now). 1) The dangerous 8 year ‘Ukraine push programme’ by the CIA/U.S. Military Complex to trigger NUCLEAR WAR with Russia and China. 2) The 8 year Plandemic … involving Fort Worth activity and bio-weapons labs and their personnel all over the World working on AIDS and Monkeypox … including Porton Down’s links to PHE and nursing home genocide policies. Wuhan lab business links to Fauci and Bill Gates. 3) The WW2 era chemical attacks on the environment and continued warfare on people since that period … nuclear dirty bombs … DDT/Agent Orange in Vietnam … 4) Fine particulate plastic pollution deliberately dropped by authorities into water environments and creeping into food chains. 5) Over-fishing by World Governments/ EU mandates allowing factory trawlers - hoovering up fish stocks rapidly bring serious imbalance and species crash to our oceans …. hunger is so bad for ocean life now as we insatiably hoover up even bottom feeders these days … some species are beaching themselves in ‘suicide pact’ demos to try and alert humans to their plight. - Humans are now becoming food interest for top ocean apex predators like sharks, killer whales etc. …hardly surprising.👍 6) The recently discussed Geo-Weathering/Chem-trails Programmes with a more sophisticated toxic delivery …. spraying v.fine particulate … mainly aluminium and barium poison over everybody. [ - This is the ultimate thing that will KILL ALL LIFE eventually … because it infuses into mitochondrial cells … and together with sun radiation and 2G,3G,4G and higher levels of 5G microwave radiations … these tiny particles heat up and cause critical internal cell damage accelerating cancers and damaging debilitating mutations at a genetic level in all living species triggering more rapid domino extinctions.☠️… all exacerbated from using computer/phone technology🤔 - if you get to see the increasingly censored documentaries like “Wi-Fried” “The Dimming”… you will discover the ‘Nazi’ Western scientists that are currently doing immense damage to Humanity now on a grand scale.] Check out the science … who is behind it … and who funds it…. …. No need to scapegoat ‘aliens’ for the evil human failings of a small ‘Mafia’ minority .☹️
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 23, 2023 13:14:26 GMT
It seems obvious to me that the aliens are already here and have taken over many of our institutions. This is why many of our institutions are becoming increasingly and overtly anti-human. We are clearly in the 'big push' phase of the alien invasion. …. No need to scapegoat ‘aliens’ for the evil human failings of a small ‘Mafia’ minority .☹️ And you still haven't sent me a single, clear photograph. Not one. Is it because you won't". Or is it because you won't?
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Post by Orac on Jan 23, 2023 14:40:22 GMT
It seems obvious to me that the aliens are already here and have taken over many of our institutions. This is why many of our institutions are becoming increasingly and overtly anti-human. We are clearly in the 'big push' phase of the alien invasion. …. No need to scapegoat ‘aliens’ for the evil human failings of a small ‘Mafia’ minority .☹️ If you are sure the aliens are benign, then you have some explaining to do. Why are they hiding?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 24, 2023 7:27:40 GMT
…. No need to scapegoat ‘aliens’ for the evil human failings of a small ‘Mafia’ minority .☹️ And you still haven't sent me a single, clear photograph. Not one. Is it because you won't". Or is it because you won't? Firstly, do your own research into this subject for verification of what you want to believe. I’m not here to waste my time on people too lazy to look at the history of UFO photos/videos taken since these cameras were invented. I’ve talked about evidence gathering by the Authorities and a very bullying/threatening cover-up programme. …. this has resulted in the removal of all the best convincing data and evidence on this subject … and the replacement of this evidence with fakes and ridicule. …. It’s the way the CIA and these Agencies work …using the MSM to programme the Masses. Anyone can fake a UFO photograph and try and look smug and clever. Sadly, deception is everywhere … and the CIA manipulates People, Communities and Countries by sowing seeds of confusion and deception. …. If you haven’t learn’t that by now … then you have either been ‘asleep’ … and not researched any independent sources all your life. … or you work for these idjuts and the Totalitarians leading Westerners in a ‘merry dance’. I dropped you a link to a series of interviews … 3 parts of an alleged alien interrogation for you and anyone else to study … and comment on in detail. Nobody bothered to comment. So I’ll just drop what interests me in future … and others can dig out and discuss anything they come across … as happened on the last Forum where we had the freedom to air our views without American censorship. Things like this interview are much harder to fake than some programmed spook looking like Will Smith in a zoot suit with dark glasses 😎 throwing a shiny hub cap in the air over a house and going ‘click’. Wouldn’t you rather learn about the different varied civilisations out there? … what they are like, how they tick and think? … their beliefs and origins? You will get little of that from a stooopid ambiguous pic of a disc every sceptic moron will just dismiss with a shrug … and say “photoshopped”. We need to stop obsessing about the reality of this visitation … and tap into the CONTACTEE/ABDUCTEE narratives that tell us so much more about the highly advanced largely benign Civilisations coming here for a ‘truck stop resource refuelling’ … and to get an eye-full of the full Earth Zoo Tour. Harvard psychologist John Mack has help support pioneers in this field to do this … understand who these visitors are … and quite a lot of info on what they are doing here … what makes them tick. Very important PR work for the future. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._MackSadly … no longer with us …. he died prematurely … killed by a hit and run driver in London … just as he was getting more involved lecturing about this subject. mysteriousuniverse.org/2021/05/looking-at-probably-the-most-controversial-angle-of-ufology-deaths-in-the-subject/Putting our feet back on Terra Firma … This is an interesting Eden Project that’s been created here on Earth … and we are the ‘wild animals’ in it …. rapidly becoming more dangerous and self-destructive of our Zoo support system in the last 100 years … It’s right to blame this on our arguably dumbass scientists, nuclear/toxic chemical programmes, politicians … and above all … the dumbest manipulators known to wage war against Humanity … entrenched in the CIA and Globalist environs …sadly linked to Religious Factions.🙄🤡
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Post by Vinny on Jan 24, 2023 8:16:35 GMT
So from the CIA to the FSB, government intelligence agencies the world over are colluding to cover up aliens? Despite major rivalries / being enemies with each other?
Nah.
I don't believe that.
And now you're talking about Covid as well. What has Covid got to do with aliens?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 24, 2023 9:26:22 GMT
…. No need to scapegoat ‘aliens’ for the evil human failings of a small ‘Mafia’ minority .☹️ If you are sure the aliens are benign, then you have some explaining to do. Why are they hiding? It’s hard to gauge which aliens working in secret within our Institutions and able to abduct …. are benign … as the Authorities are covering up mysterious deaths and disappearances related to this subject. …. When it comes to the technological ability to wipe out Humanity … my guess is aliens could have been playing God … and intervening … according to biblical texts … on many occasions. …. Geo-weathering/ triggering earthquakes … if we can do it now … they had a handle on doing it thousands of years ago. In the last 100 years, human atrocities and genocide has cranked up a notch … I don’t see ‘alien invasion/intervention’ as being anymore dangerous than a whole history of Religious war-triggered interventions. When it comes to aliens having the ability to wipe us out in other ways … Was this Chilean UFO flushing it’s loo? …. Or spreading the seeds of a new catastrophe? … youtu.be/j_DiUQ82kPkUnless Santiago got it’s own distinct strain of mysterious flu deaths after this sighting in Nov 2014 … we can probably deduce this was a waste flush exercise.💩🤔 … but it’s a warning lesson to nations who allow foreigners /Americans? …. fly over their airspace with chem-trail nozzles spraying god-knows what over us. Bio-warfare is very much on the U.S. / NATO / Western FortWorth/Porton Down Agenda … which is why these idjuts are so dangerous right now. Who knows what’s on the aliens agenda? … we need to engage in detente to find that out …. and you don’t build trust by torturing aliens. 🙄😖👏 ….we know how epically bad the WEST/NATO has been in engaging in Peace Talks with Russia and Putin in January/February … so I’m not holding my breath they have any skills to reach out to other Civilisations in the Universe … and make any lasting Peace … after a 60’s Cold War. Why are aliens hiding? …. because Americans just want their technology … to kill people … and start Star Wars. …. As I keep trying to tell you … they are now working to trash the detente generated by the ISS … and destroy the Project … rather than push it into a new orbit and add a modern new extension - decommission and trash in sections should be the strategy to keep this Project going … this is an International decision we want … time to ignore American bullying on this matter. If they want to leave the ISS Project … just leave. … and take your BLM shoe-in fascism with you! International co-operation is no longer in their Soros Evil Empire Posse’s objectives … In the UK, we need to shut down the current BBC Management’s promotion of their World Domination Agenda and BLM anarchy. …. and seriously grill Whitehall and GCHQ as to what the hell they are doing? …. flirting with these nutters. We are all ‘aliens’ to Americans/Israelis … and need to hide from their desperate attention-seeking… no wonder many here secretly want rid of them and their BS ‘special relationships’. …. another figment of their MSM’s crackpot imagination.
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 24, 2023 12:10:55 GMT
And you still haven't sent me a single, clear photograph. Not one. Is it because you won't". Or is it because you won't? Firstly, do your own research into this subject for verification of what you want to believe. I’m not here to waste my time on people too lazy to look at the history of UFO photos/videos taken since these cameras were invented. So you haven't got any clear photographs of aliens. Not even one? Why am I not surprised.............
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2023 15:57:39 GMT
Firstly, do your own research into this subject for verification of what you want to believe. I’m not here to waste my time on people too lazy to look at the history of UFO photos/videos taken since these cameras were invented. So you haven't got any clear photographs of aliens. Not even one? Why am I not surprised............. Search on image sites … check and verify what convinces you … Photos can be easily faked … try this interrogation video you keep ignoring. 😋 P.4 of this discussion. Come on, Vinny … we discussed the alien interviews on the last Forum you strangely managed to trash. (How dumb was Fox to get sucked in by your fake argument??🙄) youtu.be/7TE6frpygVY … my conclusion on close analysis was that the creature wasn’t CGI’d. Looking at the dark depressions above the eyes, as mentioned on the other Forum Archive, …. good observers will notice on each side a round dimple either side that pulses in the area a few inches above the brow … likely PROVING this is a real creature with a circulatory system … It is a very fine almost imperceptible detail most observers haven’t noticed when analysing this film. …. Note also the realistic way the brows rise and twitch when the entity is about to respond to the Interrogator over “origins of the Universe” …. sceptics ‘programmed’ by the CIA, will never acknowledge how difficult it is to fake this ‘interrogation’ to this standard … from multiple camera angles … impossible in the ‘60’s … easier today … but still hard to reach this realistic level. As mentioned before … This 1960’s footage was later likely released by Democrat cells within the CIA - edited/subtitled just before Trump’s election … in order to scare some elements away from voting Trump in 2016 …. the plot failed and Trump was surprisingly elected … like Brexit …the MSM hadn’t a clue about the mood in either Country. Notice there are glitches in the sound track which shows where the 2015 editor obscured certain words that didn’t suit the CIA narrative. Come on BS3 … stop trying to disrupt this thread by your inability to do your own research and look carefully over what I have limited time to drop. For those following the narratives … but aren’t linked to Eyes On Cinema (EOC) current interesting historic drops on Youtube … here is a rather limited testimony by a security guard who corroborates some of the detail that physicist whistleblower Bob Lazar claimed about the activities at secret base S4 … youtu.be/PpJRZ4CZY1I…. I believe Lazar reported craft hangers and UFO’s … but only once slipped up and described seeing an E.T. … guess he didn’t have the right clearance for below ground level?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 25, 2023 16:13:38 GMT
You asked for a clear pic of a UFO earlier … here’s an interesting one likely taken before the era of digital cameras. Notice the clarity of the landscape through the open left cab window, degredation thru the front window glass optics … and check out the sun position (from the telegraph pole shadows along the road) … ties in roughly matching the reflection off the silvery disc’s bodywork.
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Post by Orac on Jan 25, 2023 16:16:02 GMT
it could be a frisby
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 25, 2023 16:16:58 GMT
So you haven't got any clear photographs of aliens. Not even one? Why am I not surprised............. Search on image sites … check and verify what convinces you … Instead of your continuing diatribe and verbiage just offer a single, clear photograph. How difficult is that for you? You claimed that they exist. Go for it.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 25, 2023 16:32:02 GMT
You know this, the rest of us know this, but the cult..... Oh no. Frisby = flying saucer = Aliens.
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