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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 8:25:18 GMT
You are interpreting "could be" as definite proof. Scientists do not have "definite proof" they have "could be" things that are intriguing and are being further investigated.
Like I say you have a belief, you do not have evidence, you are clutching at straws.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 8, 2024 20:09:03 GMT
Here’s an interesting ‘little nugget’ … I bumped into just now trawling the Internet for local sightings … a very flakey case … but it might have some substance to it … ?? A U.S military radio operator’s intercept in the Caribbean of a Russian communication that said a UFO fragmented circling Earth in 1964 … one bit reported landed in Germany … the larger piece falls near Penkridge, nr Cannock Chase, UK… and the Russian spies report three alien bodies were recovered! When it comes to a Cover-Up … I guess even FOI requests rarely deliver to the British Public what the Russians and their spies seem to know landed in our air space! With a UK Brownhill’s witness claiming he took pics of delta shaped craft wreckage … and had camera and film confiscated … then the camera returned without the film … and 60 years later … still no information on what happened … guess it wasn’t just an ordinary plane crash … or the truth would have been disclosed by now. 🤔 Why would all these geographically diverse witnesses make up a weird story like this …?? Maybe researchers should contact Moscow to get details of the juiciest UK UFO reports in future?? … UFO Disclosure seems much more open over there. Seeing as we can no longer TRUST our Air Security chiefs to tell the People the TRUTH anymore. Secrecy on this subject is dangerous and irresponsible … as The Public are on the front line of most close encounters. My advice to anyone who sees something, or has an encounter with aliens … or retrieves conclusive evidence … Whatever you do … DON’T CONTACT the Police … or the Authorities … in any shape or form … (they said they are not interested) … because you can guarantee they will lose the evidence you have gathered … and will confiscate and terrorise you over the whole incident. It’s TIME to kick back and totally ignore the Deep State …. because we’ve been stamped on by this evil for far too long. Humanity needs to make direct communication with our visitors … and marginalise Religion and Authority. Only by doing that will we reach for the Stars … and break out of this Cycle of Oppression that has been around since Religion put us on a treadmill to war. ++++++++ Here’s a local news reporter’s sneery piece on the matter …a little more detail … www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2023/02/08/did-a-ufo-crash-on-our-doorstep-the-jurys-out/Guess there is very little left to sift here … but if alien bodies … or fragments of bodies were found … Porton Down, the UK’s top bio-weapons facility is certainly the right place they would take the bodies … and isolate them … in case they were carrying unique bugs from other Planets that might decimate humans whose immune systems were unaccustomed to alien viruses.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 21:19:15 GMT
Cult rubbish.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 9, 2024 7:43:30 GMT
I’m pretty sure the more one digs around these cases … the nearer we get to the truth on these matters.
Let’s just ask one simple question … if this was a very high altitude advanced jet that fragmented and part of it landed in a field in Penkridge, Staffordshire UK … how high would it need to be flying for another part of the aircraft to end up landing in West Germany?
… come on mathematician expert Vinny … crunch the numbers for us!
If this was just a conventional secret experimental (jet?)aircraft from the early 1960’s… designed by humans … the technology would be ‘old+and obsolete’ now … and therefore there would be no REAL REASON … to keep this information from the eyes of a FOI enquiry.
A witness who stumbled on the scene and reports he had his camera taken, film removed … and was later threatened by the MOD not to talk about it to investigators … suggests the crash happened … so why are there no traces in the Archive?
There’s no smoke without fire … why the secrecy today?? … it likely confirms to the British Public that the UK Military/Establishment is controlled by a ‘higher foreign power’.
…. suggesting a Collective of Religion, American Deep State … and God knows … alien factions!? …. (not vetted by us!)
None of these are acceptable to the British People …. so removal of this Establishment … that accepts this situation … and LIES to us … is now our UK NO.1 PRIORITY.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 9, 2024 8:46:23 GMT
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Post by Dubdrifter on Aug 24, 2024 9:53:36 GMT
Here are details and links about the key Black Ops departments in the USA dealing in cutting edge scientific discoveries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPAWhen we use the phrase “Deep State” in some discussions … we are talking about a hidden hierarchy that controls these Black Ops projects … often 20-30 years ahead of mainstream science … Be aware that this source is Wikipedia … and will be heavily censored information … and not entirely accurate. Take the annual budget for instance … stated as $4.1 billion …. This number is likely to be a fraction of the true budget …. if you look at the number of divisions and Projects engaged in by DARPA over the years. …. Persons linked to the military(Gen Stubblebine) offered Dr Steven Greer $5billion to drop investigations into the Disclosure Project … so it’s “chicken feed” to these people! …. These Groups have astronomical funds at their disposal … obscene amounts … they have the technology to print their own currencies … budgeting doesn’t apply to these Rogue State Groups.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 24, 2024 10:48:26 GMT
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 22, 2024 9:08:27 GMT
None of the above explains the UFO’s that shut down a series of airports in China … in this comprehensive report with interesting clips from the China Observer Youtube Channel.
It looks like the Chinese are much better prepared with drone jamming technology … and surveillance able to track down and round up drone operators … whose craft never have the power to stay in the air for the time these objects were buzzing these aviation facilities.
CONCLUSION: Alien craft.
Much of this activity would be difficult to fake with human drone technology.
… and as for the ground affects some humans experienced in one incident … that puts these encounters in a very unusual category. … certainly not USAF harassment.
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Post by besoeker3 on Sept 22, 2024 12:05:26 GMT
None of the above explains the UFO’s that shut down a series of airports in China … in this comprehensive report with interesting clips from the China Observer Youtube Channel. It looks like the Chinese are much better prepared with drone jamming technology … and surveillance able to track down and round up drone operators … whose craft never have the power to stay in the air for the time these objects were buzzing these aviation facilities. CONCLUSION: Alien craft. Much of this activity would be difficult to fake with human drone technology. … and as for the ground affects some humans experienced in one incident … that puts these encounters in a very unusual category. … certainly not USAF harassment. No clear images - no surprise there.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2024 12:12:13 GMT
None of the above explains the UFO’s that shut down a series of airports in China … in this comprehensive report with interesting clips from the China Observer Youtube Channel. It looks like the Chinese are much better prepared with drone jamming technology … and surveillance able to track down and round up drone operators … whose craft never have the power to stay in the air for the time these objects were buzzing these aviation facilities. CONCLUSION: Alien craft. Much of this activity would be difficult to fake with human drone technology. … and as for the ground affects some humans experienced in one incident … that puts these encounters in a very unusual category. … certainly not USAF harassment. No clear images - no surprise there. Exactly there isn't a smartphone made that doestn't have a high res camera for videos or stills these days.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 23, 2024 6:50:19 GMT
You are looking at 95% night shots here … or video zoomed to the maximum distance a mobile phone can cope with …
Ask any expert photographer about the acute limitations of mobile phone lenses … when they are pushed to perform at such extremes.
Film makers claim they shoot movies on mobile phones in HD … but there are limitations to what they can achieve without adapters.
How many users carry around specialist adapters 24/7 and 365??
My Samsung isn’t the latest … and is useless for night shots … my sister’s later model does night/day zoom photography quite well … but not when zoomed to the max. Pixilation is the norm .. unless you have specialist equipment.
….if it was HD crystal clear … you would still moan … and declare it was AI or CGI … and dismiss it as ‘fake’ … I would love to see all the clear film confiscated by the Authorities over the years … then we could move on over this issue and discuss communication and technology without the Authorities/Religion getting in the way of direct contact and education.
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Post by besoeker3 on Sept 23, 2024 11:27:13 GMT
You are looking at 95% night shots here … or video zoomed to the maximum distance a mobile phone can cope with … Ask any expert photographer about the acute limitations of mobile phone lenses … when they are pushed to perform at such extremes. Film makers claim they shoot movies on mobile phones in HD … but there are limitations to what they can achieve without adapters. How many users carry around specialist adapters 24/7 and 365?? My Samsung isn’t the latest … and is useless for night shots … my sister’s later model does night/day zoom photography quite well … but not when zoomed to the max. Pixilation is the norm .. unless you have specialist equipment. ….if it was HD crystal clear … you would still moan … and declare it was AI or CGI … and dismiss it as ‘fake’ … I would love to see all the clear film confiscated by the Authorities over the years … then we could move on over this issue and discuss communication and technology without the Authorities/Religion getting in the way of direct contact and education. It is the Canon.
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Post by besoeker3 on Sept 23, 2024 12:55:11 GMT
The Canon...........70 - 300 mm lens. It is nothing exotic. I also have a nice tripod but I newer use it imgur.com/p8sgfWtIt is clearly the moon. Your object is nothing vaguely like anything.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 23, 2024 17:09:29 GMT
The Canon...........70 - 300 mm lens. It is nothing exotic. I also have a nice tripod but I newer use it imgur.com/p8sgfWtIt is clearly the moon. Your object is nothing vaguely like anything. Modern cameras with image stability means that 300mm lenses can be hand held easily.....
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 24, 2024 3:54:29 GMT
The Canon...........70 - 300 mm lens. It is nothing exotic. I also have a nice tripod but I newer use it. imgur.com/p8sgfWtIt is clearly the moon. Your object is nothing vaguely like anything. Which object are you talking about … ?? … it’s not my object … and it’s not just one observation … multiple objects with multiple characteristics and behaviours … watch the Chinese report again … the Moon didn’t shut down these airports multiple times. FOCUS BS3. P.S. Your moon shot is blurry. Use a tripod …
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