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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 7:44:16 GMT
I will check them out when I have more time but they appear to be attracting most of their support from the right, a bit like UKIP in earlier years. And to be totally honest, I am not an across the spectrum kind of guy when it comes to my own personal ideals. I am more a Labour manifesto circa 2017 kind of guy. And is not the founder of Reform an avowed right winger? I will admit though that I do not yet know enough about them to form any firm convictions for or against. But it is my habit to look into the policies of all candidates standing in my constituency in an election, because I like to be certain what I am voting for and what I am voting against. So if a Reform candidate is standing in my constituency I will certainly be fully clued up about them before I vote. From what I have heard though - and by all means correct me if I am wrong - they are proving to be the protest vehicle of choice for disgruntled right wingers. For my protest vote to measure as I want it to, I need to vote for someone whom the left is backing. Their predecessor, the Brexit Party, took more than a few Corbyn's Labour voters at the last EU elections. Quite possibly. But UKIP was mainly a right wing party trying to have broad spectrum appeal. Which is what I suspect Reform to be. I never voted UKIP. From all I have heard so far I very much doubt I will vote Reform. And European elections are nowhere near the same as national ones, tending to serve as a vehicle for protest votes, particularly against the EU. I used to vote Green in such elections.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 2, 2023 7:47:21 GMT
Their predecessor, the Brexit Party, took more than a few Corbyn's Labour voters at the last EU elections. Quite possibly. But UKIP was mainly a right wing party trying to have broad spectrum appeal. Which is what I suspect Reform to be. I never voted UKIP. From all I have heard so far I very much doubt I will vote Reform. And European elections are nowhere near the same as national ones, tending to serve as a vehicle for protest votes, particularly against the EU. I used to vote Green in such elections. Why are you talking about UKIP when I was talking about the Brexit Party?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 7:59:34 GMT
Quite possibly. But UKIP was mainly a right wing party trying to have broad spectrum appeal. Which is what I suspect Reform to be. I never voted UKIP. From all I have heard so far I very much doubt I will vote Reform. And European elections are nowhere near the same as national ones, tending to serve as a vehicle for protest votes, particularly against the EU. I used to vote Green in such elections. Why are you talking about UKIP when I was talking about the Brexit Party? My bad. The two are in any case interchangeable in my view, both at one point vehicles for that loathsome egotist Farage. I never voted for the Brexit Party either, now would I ever have. Your attempts to persuade me to vote for Reform are having the opposite effect.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 2, 2023 10:11:18 GMT
Why are you talking about UKIP when I was talking about the Brexit Party? My bad. The two are in any case interchangeable in my view, both at one point vehicles for that loathsome egotist Farage. I never voted for the Brexit Party either, now would I ever have. Your attempts to persuade me to vote for Reform are having the opposite effect. You misinterpret. I'm not trying to persuade you to vote for Reform, I'm trying to tell you that they're worth looking at and almost certainly better than anything else on offer. Mr. Farage is an OK guy but other than possibly canvassing he will not stand for election.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 20:15:38 GMT
My bad. The two are in any case interchangeable in my view, both at one point vehicles for that loathsome egotist Farage. I never voted for the Brexit Party either, now would I ever have. Your attempts to persuade me to vote for Reform are having the opposite effect. You misinterpret. I'm not trying to persuade you to vote for Reform, I'm trying to tell you that they're worth looking at and almost certainly better than anything else on offer. Mr. Farage is an OK guy but other than possibly canvassing he will not stand for election. I think Farage is a complete knob, and a racist, friend of fascists. I will not vote for anything that has his fingerprints on it.
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