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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 10:48:31 GMT
From the link supplied by Tinculin, Oh dear I wonder when the Scottish expert would appear with nonsense. Would you care to point out where I said Scotland will not be responsible for one penny of the UK debt. Why do you have this continual need to make a total fool of yourself |
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Post by om15 on Jan 3, 2023 10:50:12 GMT
Your Guardian article was written six years ago, it has no relevance to the financial situation today, covid and Ukraine have completely changed the financial landscape of the UK, Europe and the USA.
You would be better quoting information that is relevant.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 3, 2023 10:50:38 GMT
With unionism consistently getting the lions share of the vote (above 50%) the SNP have no mandate for separatism.
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Post by om15 on Jan 3, 2023 10:55:41 GMT
Certainly, it is the lead sentence in your post made an hour or so ago.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 11:07:07 GMT
No you have not explained anything. You made the statement that the UK is the 5th RICHEST country in the world. You are plain 100% wrong. It is the 5th LARGEST economy in the world. That is the fanny politician use. And they know they are lying through there teeth. It has nothing to do with being Donald Trump. Last I heard Donald Trump or Richard Branson are or were not countries. In terms of being the 5th RICHEST in the world. The Uk runs between 28th and 38th in terms of RICHEST in the world. In terms of Europe I have just given you 5 links stating it is around the 14th RICHEST in Europe. The poverty levels sustain that. Some 3.9 million hungry children were fed because of a football player Marcus Rashford, forced a lying wanker into action. There are more food banks in England than MacDonald's. And pensioner are having to sit on buses to keep warm.,That is disgusting. All your figures prove is that the UK has the worlds worst difference between rich and poor. .. And you still have not told me how Scotland cost the English debt. It has paid its way in the union. I gave you the figures.. It is the likes of GERs that is utter fanny and skewed as the Fraser of Allander institute has now admitted. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 11:08:38 GMT
Certainly, it is the lead sentence in your post made an hour or so ago. That matey was from the UK treasury. Not me. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 11:09:35 GMT
Certainly, it is the lead sentence in your post made an hour or so ago. That matey was from the UK treasury. Not me. Now how about you telling me how it would be. And I am still waiting on you to correct how do you put it any of the nonsense I post. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 11:22:10 GMT
From the link supplied by Tinculin, From the statement made by Jaydee. This is why I think that most of the contents of Jaydee's posts are fabricated nonsense and alcohol inspired wishful thinking. There is not a grain of accuracy, truth or perspective in anything he posts. As demonstrated. That is correct. That is what she said. And that is what Alex Salmond said as well on the last indy ref. . Which as usual in your stupidity fail to notice she also said . but also receive a fair share of the UK’s assets,. In short Salmond told George Osborne. You have stolen the assets, you have also stolen the debt. but that is beyond you. And in terms of the link being out of date, Ok here it is updated version. November 2022. Same shit different year. Now would you care to tell how Scotland who was not responsible for the debt would have to pay it. Despite the Uk treasury saying otherwise. The hundredth time I have asked you Would you care to correct one of how did you put it. Fabricated nonsense. Anyone will do. Which you make it clear you are totally incapable of doing. www.theneweuropean.co.uk/paul-mason-the-effects-of-brexit-on-britain/ |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 3, 2023 11:35:53 GMT
No you have not explained anything. You made the statement that the UK is the 5th RICHEST country in the world. You are plain 100% wrong. It is the 5th LARGEST economy in the world. That is the fanny politician use. And they know they are lying through there teeth. It has nothing to do with being Donald Trump. Last I heard Donald Trump or Richard Branson are or were not countries. In terms of being the 5th RICHEST in the world. The Uk runs between 28th and 38th in terms of RICHEST in the world. In terms of Europe I have just given you 5 links stating it is around the 14th RICHEST in Europe. The poverty levels sustain that. Some 3.9 million hungry children were fed because of a football player Marcus Rashford, forced a lying wanker into action. There are more food banks in England than MacDonald's. And pensioner are having to sit on buses to keep warm.,That is disgusting. All your figures prove is that the UK has the worlds worst difference between rich and poor. .. And you still have not told me how Scotland cost the English debt. It has paid its way in the union. I gave you the figures.. It is the likes of GERs that is utter fanny and skewed as the Fraser of Allander institute has now admitted. One last time. Do you really believe in the accuracy of those links and that your average Irish citizen earns 99k per year? |
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Post by research0it on Jan 3, 2023 11:47:07 GMT
Hi everyone
It's becoming what I don't want. Om15 and jaydee - can you reduce the aggression?
Hi vinny
Maybe but the criteria and timing of moving to independence will be set by those living here. It may be an even higher bar than you suggest, it may never happen, but I'm pretty sure of one thing. Once decided upon, no one is going to suggest running it past vinny on that strange little political forum
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 11:56:36 GMT
No you have not explained anything. You made the statement that the UK is the 5th RICHEST country in the world. You are plain 100% wrong. It is the 5th LARGEST economy in the world. That is the fanny politician use. And they know they are lying through there teeth. It has nothing to do with being Donald Trump. Last I heard Donald Trump or Richard Branson are or were not countries. In terms of being the 5th RICHEST in the world. The Uk runs between 28th and 38th in terms of RICHEST in the world. In terms of Europe I have just given you 5 links stating it is around the 14th RICHEST in Europe. The poverty levels sustain that. Some 3.9 million hungry children were fed because of a football player Marcus Rashford, forced a lying wanker into action. There are more food banks in England than MacDonald's. And pensioner are having to sit on buses to keep warm.,That is disgusting. All your figures prove is that the UK has the worlds worst difference between rich and poor. .. And you still have not told me how Scotland cost the English debt. It has paid its way in the union. I gave you the figures.. It is the likes of GERs that is utter fanny and skewed as the Fraser of Allander institute has now admitted. One last time. Do you really believe in the accuracy of those links and that your average Irish citizen earns 99k per year? Yes I do. You can make it as many times as you like. It does not alter the fact one Jot. The data came from the IMF and the World bank. Sorry to intrude in on your delusion. More to the point. Do you think the word Richest and the Word Largest. Means the same thing. It really does not bode well shooting the messenger. Do you still believe the UK is the 5th Richest country in the world with its massive debt and worst performing economy in the G7 Beaten only by Russia. Or rich developed countries have 3.9 million children in poverty in England. That is more than 25%, or 8 in a class of 30 . Nothing to do with fiddled figures.More than one in five of the UK population (22%) are in poverty– 14.5 million people. Of these, 8.1 million are working-age adults, 4.3 million are children and 2.1 million are pensioners. For UK read England.Or are they fiddled figures and wrong as well. And you still have not told me how you worked out Scotland is a drag on England. It is the other way about. Not to worry though. Both agree Scotland should leave the Union. Maybe you could get in touch with your MP. Instruct him to stop flooding out Scottish MPs when they debated to get the wording of the Scotland Act changed. In desperation 270 Tory wankers flooded the floor defeating the motion 270 to 40. Now why would they do that. You tell me. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 3, 2023 11:58:52 GMT
Hi everyone It's becoming what I don't want. Om15 and jaydee - can you reduce the aggression? Hi vinny Maybe but the criteria and timing of moving to independence will be set by those living here. It may be an even higher bar than you suggest, it may never happen, but I'm pretty sure of one thing. Once decided upon, no one is going to suggest running it past vinny on that strange little political forum Most us living here, don't want it. |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 3, 2023 12:19:38 GMT
One last time. Do you really believe in the accuracy of those links and that your average Irish citizen earns 99k per year? Yes I do. The data come from the IMF and the World bank. Sorry to intrude in on your delusion. But it really does not bode well shooting the messenger. I've explained to you why average GDP per capita is skewed for small countries and it has nothing to do with the money people are earning. What jobs do you think the average person in a big city like Dublin does to earn 99k per year? Here are 28,000 jobs in Dublin Ireland: ie.indeed.com/jobs-in-Dublin,-County-Dublin?vjk=d864ab9d06e092b8 Only 2% of these offer a potential salary > 100k The overwhelming majority offer a 20-60k starting salary. Do you want to take a shot at trying to explain these numbers and how they support your belief these people are earning on average, 100k+ per year? Or alternatively, explain what job the vast majority of irish are doing to earn 100k? I've worked in Ireland and i've employed people in Ireland and I can promise you, they don't earn on average even half that, as that link very clearly demonstrates. |
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 3, 2023 12:26:38 GMT
The 99k myth debunked. expatrist.com/what-is-considered-a-good-salary-in-ireland/
What is a decent salary in Ireland?
A good salary (not average), in Ireland starts at 45,000 EUR across the country and at 50,000 EUR in Dublin. This translates to 2,887 EUR and 3,102 EUR monthly income after tax, respectively.
50,000 EUR translates to around 44k GBP. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 3, 2023 13:47:08 GMT
Yes I do. The data come from the IMF and the World bank. Sorry to intrude in on your delusion. But it really does not bode well shooting the messenger. I've explained to you why average GDP per capita is skewed for small countries and it has nothing to do with the money people are earning. What jobs do you think the average person in a big city like Dublin does to earn 99k per year? Here are 28,000 jobs in Dublin Ireland: ie.indeed.com/jobs-in-Dublin,-County-Dublin?vjk=d864ab9d06e092b8 Only 2% of these offer a potential salary > 100k The overwhelming majority offer a 20-60k starting salary. Do you want to take a shot at trying to explain these numbers and how they support your belief these people are earning on average, 100k+ per year? Or alternatively, explain what job the vast majority of irish are doing to earn 100k? I've worked in Ireland and i've employed people in Ireland and I can promise you, they don't earn on average even half that, as that link very clearly demonstrates. You are just not going to give up. All your argument is based on is nonsense. Or delusion. I cannot help you on that one. Probably both. All you are proving is that the gap between the richest in the UK society and the poorest is the worst in the developed world. I do not dispute that. Putin is a billionaire. So was Saddam Hussein. The biggest gap between rich and poor is found in London, which is over-represented in both the top incomes and lowest incomes in the country. Nearly 30 per cent of Londoners live in poverty,according to the IFS, There are around around 8 million living in London. That equates to around the adult population of Scotland in poverty in London . Compared to 22 per cent across the UK generally. That is about 3 times the population of Scotland. In-work poverty has risen in the North to 3.5 million in 2019/20. End of explanation. So you tell me what 22% of the UK population in poverty means to you. And for UK read England. Now there are links below. How about you telling me how they are all wrong. All state the UK is the 14 or there about richest in Europe. Not my data. From the IMF and the World bank. How does that translate to you the UK is the 5th Richest in the world. You still have not told me how you conclude the word Richest means the same as the word largest. Norway has the same population as Scotland, but has a welfare fund of over £700 billion. That is around the entire economy of the UK. Which Scotland would have had, if it had not been squandered by Westminster. . Neither have you told me how Scotland was a drag on England. That is what you said. www.edudwar.com/richest-countries-in-europe/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_and_social_rankings_of_sovereign_states_in_Europewagecentre.com/immigration/country/the-richest-countries-in-europewww.worlddata.info/richest-countries.phpimmigrantinvest.com/blog/top-10-richest-countries-world-en/ |
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