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Post by Totheleft on Nov 20, 2024 21:34:42 GMT
Interesting map [See link] reveals areas in England and Wales with the worst crime rates.
The UK’s top crime hotspots have been revealed, with our interactive map letting you see how dangerous your area is. The Office for National Statistics (ONS) compiles the number of crimes per 1,000 people for each police force in England and Wales. Figures for the year to March 2024 show Cleveland Police dealing with the highest rate of offences in proportion to its population. metro.co.uk/2024/11/20/map-reveals-full-list-areas-uk-worst-crime-rates-22031354/I wonder why Cleveland is such a crime hotspot? Cleveland is such an anomaly that it perhaps bears closer inspection, particularly since all the other police force areas that come behind in the league table are multicultural hot-spots. Could it perhaps be something to do with the how diligent the Cleveland force is with respect to identifying and recording criminal incidents in comparison to other forces which perhaps shy away from claiming top spot for reasons best known to themselves? think cleveland has one of the smallest police force maybe thats why its such a white cesspit
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 20, 2024 21:46:05 GMT
You're probably right, so Cleveland being a relatively small area to police as well as one which doesn't have the multicultural challenges of places like London and Manchester perhaps makes it less of a challenge for them to get their arms around. I mean who the hell knows what really goes on in places like Brixton, Manningham, Levenshulme and Handsworth or Sparkbrook where the police don't care to venture and the locals don't want them around anyway.
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Post by Orac on Nov 20, 2024 21:48:42 GMT
Geordies are fine so long as you can pretend to understand them, hold your nerve, and keep smiling Oh I agree, I've had a few Geordie mates and went up there on leave a couple of times, Hebburn & Wallsend to be precise, opposite sides of the river. They were very working class areas but decent enough people. The lads from south of the river always slagged off the lads from north of the river, and visa versa. I dunno what difference it made but apparently it was important to them. And yes the translation did get a bit tricky, especially when they got exited bless em. Happy days. That's not to underestimate how unnerving it can all become, when you have had six pints and you can't understand a fucking word they are saying
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2024 21:52:31 GMT
Cleveland is such an anomaly that it perhaps bears closer inspection, particularly since all the other police force areas that trail behind in the league table are multicultural hot-spots. Could it perhaps be something to do with the how diligent the Cleveland force is with respect to identifying and recording criminal incidents in comparison to other forces which perhaps shy away from claiming top spot for reasons best known to themselves? Perhaps the type of offence is also another avenue to pursue. Yes I did consider that, the fact that crime figures may be influenced by the way different police forces record crime. Indeed earlier this evening on GB News ex Met detective Peter Bleksley was quite vocal in his anger that we have forty five different police forces in the UK that are all fiefdoms of their own chief constable. Which does sound ridiculous, but quite true.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2024 22:15:31 GMT
That's not to underestimate how unnerving it can all become, when you have had six pints and you can't understand a fucking word they are saying And it was even more confusing when Geordie had six pints down his neck. A quick anecdote, it had to happen. I went home with Geordie for the weekend, this is the Geordie from Hebburn. We went to a club, as in working mens. There was a definite language barrier but I could cope, initially. The barman told me that because I had never been there before I had to have a 'brown cow', it was an initiation that all outsiders went through. My mate nodded sagely. I accepted my fate and was presented with a pint glass which contained half Newcastle Brown Ale, and half a pint of milk... brown cow. The word went around and everyone looked over. I necked it in one and with brown cow dribbling down my chin slammed the glass down on the bar. Everyone including my mate, burst out laughing. I wondered, is this good or bad? Then my mate told me it was a joke, a prank. There was no such thing as a brown cow, he just made it up, twat. But it did break the ice and from then on, and in spite of the language barrier, I got on famously with the natives.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 20, 2024 22:24:42 GMT
You're probably right, so Cleveland being a relatively small area to police as well as one which doesn't have the multicultural challenges of places like London and Manchester perhaps makes it less of a challenge for them to get their arms around. I mean who the hell knows what really goes on in places like Brixton, Manningham, Levenshulme and Handsworth or Sparkbrook where the police don't care to venture and the locals don't want them around anyway. The overall crime rate in Middlesbrough city is 204.9 crimes per 1,000. Most crimes, 11.7k crimes were violent crimes which is 32.2% of all crimes committed in the area. Violent crime rate is at 188% of national crime rate. Middlesbrough crime statistics comparison. November 2024 www.plumplot.co.uk/City-Middlesbrough-crime-stats.htmlwww.plumplot.co.uk/City-Middlesbrough-crime-stats.htmlcompair that to london birmingham manchester
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 20, 2024 22:29:41 GMT
As I said on the other thread: A bit more info to ponder. I live in the second safest (ie lowest crime) London Boroughs. It's also one of the least diverse. Richmond is the lowest crime London Borough. It is also the least diverse. And across the rest of London crime rate scales with diversity. The figures don't lie: Diversity = Crime. Bad luck, doofus. Maybe there should be a thread merge.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 21, 2024 6:18:26 GMT
That's not to underestimate how unnerving it can all become, when you have had six pints and you can't understand a fucking word they are saying And it was even more confusing when Geordie had six pints down his neck. A quick anecdote, it had to happen. I went home with Geordie for the weekend, this is the Geordie from Hebburn. We went to a club, as in working mens. There was a definite language barrier but I could cope, initially. The barman told me that because I had never been there before I had to have a 'brown cow', it was an initiation that all outsiders went through. My mate nodded sagely. I accepted my fate and was presented with a pint glass which contained half Newcastle Brown Ale, and half a pint of milk... brown cow. The word went around and everyone looked over. I necked it in one and with brown cow dribbling down my chin slammed the glass down on the bar. Everyone including my mate, burst out laughing. I wondered, is this good or bad? Then my mate told me it was a joke, a prank. There was no such thing as a brown cow, he just made it up, twat. But it did break the ice and from then on, and in spite of the language barrier, I got on famously with the natives. lol Fetch me some striped paint Red!
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 21, 2024 6:27:22 GMT
And it was even more confusing when Geordie had six pints down his neck. A quick anecdote, it had to happen. I went home with Geordie for the weekend, this is the Geordie from Hebburn. We went to a club, as in working mens. There was a definite language barrier but I could cope, initially. The barman told me that because I had never been there before I had to have a 'brown cow', it was an initiation that all outsiders went through. My mate nodded sagely. I accepted my fate and was presented with a pint glass which contained half Newcastle Brown Ale, and half a pint of milk... brown cow. The word went around and everyone looked over. I necked it in one and with brown cow dribbling down my chin slammed the glass down on the bar. Everyone including my mate, burst out laughing. I wondered, is this good or bad? Then my mate told me it was a joke, a prank. There was no such thing as a brown cow, he just made it up, twat. But it did break the ice and from then on, and in spite of the language barrier, I got on famously with the natives. lol Fetch me some striped paint Red! Or a bucket of sparks, or a long wait perhaps, yes I know lol. They were good times.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 21, 2024 6:47:12 GMT
lol Fetch me some striped paint Red! Or a bucket of sparks, or a long wait perhaps, yes I know lol. They were good times. How about Sky hooks?
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Post by Orac on Nov 21, 2024 13:08:35 GMT
lol Fetch me some striped paint Red! Or a bucket of sparks, or a long wait perhaps, yes I know lol. They were good times. the long weight is the best
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Post by Orac on Nov 21, 2024 14:33:13 GMT
That's not to underestimate how unnerving it can all become, when you have had six pints and you can't understand a fucking word they are saying Everyone including my mate, burst out laughing. I wondered, is this good or bad? Then my mate told me it was a joke, a prank. There was no such thing as a brown cow, he just made it up, twat. But it did break the ice and from then on, and in spite of the language barrier, I got on famously with the natives. Mild hazing lol I have memories of a a man shouting at me with his yes wide and feeling sure i was about to be thumped in the face - and then him putting his arm around my shoulders to offer me a drink
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