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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 8:55:13 GMT
Oh come on Sandy, be fair. The right have been claiming Labour will open our doors to Africa for months. And Labour have done far better than the Tories in a very short time. Of course the real question is not ILLEGAL migrants, but legal ones. Gaslighting. Desperation ↑↑
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Post by Orac on Nov 17, 2024 9:45:26 GMT
So we have gone from disaster zone to piss poor and we should be grateful. You have not really understood what the anger is about yet. Oh come on Sandy, be fair. The right have been claiming Labour will open our doors to Africa for months. And Labour have done far better than the Tories in a very short time. Of course the real question is not ILLEGAL migrants, but legal ones. A mystery that always nagged me about the Tories was the number of Albanian gangsters in the country. My own modelling of the situation was that no elected government would order their electorate to be rogered in this manner and so this bizarre situation was a feature of a out of control civil service whose management was compromised or just plain composed of perverts who were doing it for their personal amusement. The last time something similar was attempted, there were people on the planes preventing take off and a flurries of 'judicial activism' - so what changed this time? Were people paid off? Were all these immigrants not gay? Btw - I feel pretty confident the 'doors from Africa' are wedged fully open and it will remain that way.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 10:05:38 GMT
Oh come on Sandy, be fair. The right have been claiming Labour will open our doors to Africa for months. And Labour have done far better than the Tories in a very short time. Of course the real question is not ILLEGAL migrants, but legal ones. A mystery that always nagged me about the Tories was the number of Albanian gangsters in the country. My own modelling of the situation was that no elected government would order their electorate to be rogered in this manner and so this bizarre situation was a feature of a out of control civil service whose management was compromised or just plain composed of perverts who were doing it for their personal amusement. The last time something similar was attempted, there were people on the planes preventing take off and a flurries of 'judicial activism' - so what changed this time? Were people paid off? Were all these immigrants not gay? Btw - I feel pretty confident the 'doors from Africa' are wedged fully open and it will remain that way. Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 10:07:52 GMT
A mystery that always nagged me about the Tories was the number of Albanian gangsters in the country. My own modelling of the situation was that no elected government would order their electorate to be rogered in this manner and so this bizarre situation was a feature of a out of control civil service whose management was compromised or just plain composed of perverts who were doing it for their personal amusement. The last time something similar was attempted, there were people on the planes preventing take off and a flurries of 'judicial activism' - so what changed this time? Were people paid off? Were all these immigrants not gay? Btw - I feel pretty confident the 'doors from Africa' are wedged fully open and it will remain that way. Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices. But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 17, 2024 10:19:00 GMT
Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices. But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary. If you feel that something has been missed, why don't you add that to the discussion?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2024 10:20:13 GMT
Oh come on Sandy, be fair. The right have been claiming Labour will open our doors to Africa for months. And Labour have done far better than the Tories in a very short time. Of course the real question is not ILLEGAL migrants, but legal ones. A mystery that always nagged me about the Tories was the number of Albanian gangsters in the country. My own modelling of the situation was that no elected government would order their electorate to be rogered in this manner and so this bizarre situation was a feature of a out of control civil service whose management was compromised or just plain composed of perverts who were doing it for their personal amusement. The last time something similar was attempted, there were people on the planes preventing take off and a flurries of 'judicial activism' - so what changed this time? Were people paid off? Were all these immigrants not gay? Btw - I feel pretty confident the 'doors from Africa' are wedged fully open and it will remain that way. Where were the HR lawyers when these supposed flights of starmers took off?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 10:20:34 GMT
Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices. But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary. Anything is possible for me to miss. Turning a blind eye, No. But then that's just a petty insult from you, nothing new there.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2024 10:21:39 GMT
But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary. If you feel that something has been missed, why don't you add that to the discussion? Where were the lefty HR lawyers when these fantasy flights took off andrea?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 10:22:18 GMT
But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary. Anything is possible for me to miss. Turning a blind eye, No. But then that's just a petty insult from you, nothing new there. Or just being helpful.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 10:23:14 GMT
But then with ADHD who would know what you have already missed or turned a blind eye when necessary. If you feel that something has been missed, why don't you add that to the discussion? Sheepy does add something, he is a major supplier of sniping and sneering for the forum.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 10:28:47 GMT
If you feel that something has been missed, why don't you add that to the discussion? Sheepy does add something, he is a major supplier of sniping and sneering for the forum. I don't think so, I feel as though to cover for your lack of knowledge you are casting spurious accusations in the neo liberal fashion.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 17, 2024 10:33:56 GMT
If you feel that something has been missed, why don't you add that to the discussion? Where were the lefty HR lawyers when these fantasy flights took off andrea? In No 10! 🤣
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Post by Orac on Nov 17, 2024 10:38:11 GMT
A mystery that always nagged me about the Tories was the number of Albanian gangsters in the country. My own modelling of the situation was that no elected government would order their electorate to be rogered in this manner and so this bizarre situation was a feature of a out of control civil service whose management was compromised or just plain composed of perverts who were doing it for their personal amusement. The last time something similar was attempted, there were people on the planes preventing take off and a flurries of 'judicial activism' - so what changed this time? Were people paid off? Were all these immigrants not gay? Btw - I feel pretty confident the 'doors from Africa' are wedged fully open and it will remain that way. Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices. I don't need to 'look for conspiracies', it is pretty obvious that the perverse outcomes we have seen need to involve a criminal conspiracy to even make sense. If you had an employee making similar judgment calls as our judiciary on this matter, you would have sacked him years ago as an industrial saboteur. If Labour have found the 'secret formula' that allows the British public to eject large numbers of unwanted invaders without our public 'service' figuratively stapling themselves to the runways, then this is indeed good news and we should expect the same formula to be used again and again to eject tens of thousands of these people a week for the next five years of Labour's term. However, I suspect the secret formula involves the movements of very large brown envelopes and there is only so much of this kind of activity that can be sensibly hidden. We will see.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 17, 2024 10:42:42 GMT
Where were the lefty HR lawyers when these fantasy flights took off andrea? In No 10! 🤣 You tell me andria they were out in force when the Tory's tried the same activity.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 17, 2024 10:59:04 GMT
Instead of looking for conspiracy, have you done any research? How have Labour managed this turn around? Do they have better lawyers On legal immigration I wait with baited breath to see if the public are informed of the costs and given the choices. I don't need to 'look for conspiracies', it is pretty obvious that the perverse outcomes we have seen need to involve a criminal conspiracy to even make sense. If you had an employee making similar judgment calls as our judiciary on this matter, you would have sacked him years ago as an industrial saboteur. If Labour have found the 'secret formula' that allows the British public to eject large numbers of unwanted invaders without our public 'service' figuratively stapling themselves to the runways, then this is indeed good news and we should expect the same formula to be used again and again to eject tens of thousands of these people a week for the next five years of Labour's term. However, I suspect the secret formula involves the movements of very large brown envelopes and there is only so much of this kind of activity that can be sensibly hidden. We will see. Maybe its research, maybe its trust . Research would mean government lawyers have picked those who should not be here and therefore get no legal objections, rather than pulling a Rwanda style stunt. Maybe the Tories wanted a Rwanda stunt to fail so they could point to Leftie EU lawyers and claim" its not their fault." Trust would mean the lawyers deporting the undesirables are known to the runway staplers and trusted. You are free to interpret it all as some major conspiracy, I prefer to gather evidence to assist my conclusions. On legal immigration. You prefer to think some leftie overlords are trying to create a global force destroying white people. My evidence suggests its our own government trying to keep GDP growing in a country that relies on that to offset the growing tax bill of an aging population. A government that relies on its low tax stance to get elected. A government that knows the majority of the simpleton public think it could all be covered by cutting waste while providing ever increasing treatments and services. That's my theory.
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