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Post by wapentake on Nov 21, 2024 18:53:32 GMT
No. I said blowing up and stabbing children is froth on the surface The problem is that --"There have been Muslims in Britain since the 16th century, with communities developing from the late-1900s in the port cities of London, Cardiff, Glasgow, Liverpool, Tyneside, and Hull."-- That is the reality we have to live with. Do you have an answer to it? Yes some do,but as the person I quoted on the previous page warned of the many that came and are still coming who do not in one breath your saying over half the muslim population are hostile towards us then you say a large population of muslims are hostile with browing and stabbing children think its not hard to draw the conclusion 2+2 =4 No Orac never crosses that line, he implies like hell but never says. That's why he's not a racist. 😅 😂 🤣 Implies? No he and others point out the realities,there are those of course who imply or call out racism at every opportunity. |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 21, 2024 19:00:49 GMT
I thought Zanygame's projection only existed to shut down the people who object to importing slave labour.
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Post by Orac on Nov 21, 2024 19:15:16 GMT
I don't mind at all being called racist by Zany, I know he is only having fun.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 21, 2024 19:17:40 GMT
Most Muslims are not asylum seekers. In fact I'd hazard a guess that there are more Muslim overstayers than asylum seekers.
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Post by Orac on Nov 21, 2024 19:20:10 GMT
Most Muslims are not asylum seekers. In fact I'd hazard a guess that there are more Muslim overstayers than asylum seekers. In the case of legal migration, the legal solution is self-evident |
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Post by see2 on Nov 21, 2024 22:39:30 GMT
Some Muslims fit into British society without a problem others clearly don't. The problem is that --"There have been Muslims in Britain since the 16th century, with communities developing from the late-1900s in the port cities of London, Cardiff, Glasgow, Liverpool, Tyneside, and Hull."-- That is the reality we have to live with. Do you have an answer to it? Yes some do,but as the person I quoted on the previous page warned of the many that came and are still coming who do not There are no figures that I know of indicating the numbers either way. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 21, 2024 22:53:49 GMT
Whatever the case, asylum seekers are here, do you have a legal, workable answer to the Problem? My point is of course that the numbers were very small, while yours appears to be "they weren't zero, so there - you have to accept being invaded" - ie we are talking a t crossed purposes. This is pretty standard fair for those trying to normalise btw. One of roles of government is to change the law. The legal way to prevent it currently is to make the option of arriving illegally unattractive. Nope, you missed out the huge increase in migration that is down to asylum seekers which is much later than the 1960s. Seeking asylum is legal, changing the law could IMO relive some of the pressures on some of the already more severe governments, allowing them to become more severe. Nevertheless, I do think a modification to the law is on the horizon, and certainly something does need to be done. I have posted on a previous forum that I believe this mass immigration that has already happened and is continuing to happen, could do long term damage to the UK and to Europe as a whole. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 21, 2024 23:46:53 GMT
My point is of course that the numbers were very small, while yours appears to be "they weren't zero, so there - you have to accept being invaded" - ie we are talking a t crossed purposes. This is pretty standard fair for those trying to normalise btw. One of roles of government is to change the law. The legal way to prevent it currently is to make the option of arriving illegally unattractive. Nope, you missed out the huge increase in migration that is down to asylum seekers which is much later than the 1960s. Yes - the era of mass immigration started in sixties (arguably the fifties) and you accept that legal solution are not only possible but likely. I don't think you have a point to make here.
I'm unsure why you responded to me. You agree with me. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 0:13:37 GMT
Whatever the case, asylum seekers are here, do you have a legal, workable answer to the Problem? My point is of course that the numbers were very small, while yours appears to be "they weren't zero, so there - you have to accept being invaded" - ie we are talking a t crossed purposes. This is pretty standard fair for those trying to normalise btw. One of roles of government is to change the law. The legal way to prevent it currently is to make the option of arriving illegally unattractive. What you mean by invaded and do you think the populace will come a minority |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 22, 2024 8:25:08 GMT
My point is of course that the numbers were very small, while yours appears to be "they weren't zero, so there - you have to accept being invaded" - ie we are talking a t crossed purposes. This is pretty standard fair for those trying to normalise btw. One of roles of government is to change the law. The legal way to prevent it currently is to make the option of arriving illegally unattractive. What you mean by invaded and do you think the populace will come a minority An invasion is people making entry without proper authority or invitation to do so. A group walking through your back door and into your house are invaders. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 22, 2024 9:16:10 GMT
What you mean by invaded and do you think the populace will come a minority An invasion is people making entry without proper authority or invitation to do so. A group walking through your back door and into your house are invaders. Absolutely. I would also count legal immigration currently as an invasion. the British government are talking over the UK public's heads, to invite people in against their aggregate will. The intent / knowledge of the people arriving is also an issue - it is barely credible that many of the people arriving truly believe the UK public want to be ethnic minorities in their own cities. They know perfectly well that what they are doing is unwelcome, because they wouldn't like it if it was done to them. The whole thing is abusive and it has been normalised |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 9:26:00 GMT
What you mean by invaded and do you think the populace will come a minority An invasion is people making entry without proper authority or invitation to do so. A group walking through your back door and into your house are invaders. so legal immigrants arnt invaders thank you |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 9:33:34 GMT
An invasion is people making entry without proper authority or invitation to do so. A group walking through your back door and into your house are invaders. Absolutely. I would also count legal immigration currently as an invasion. the British government are talking over the the UK public's heads, to invite people in against their aggregate will. The intent / knowledge of the people arriving is also an issue - it is barely credible that many of the people arriving truly believe the UK public want to be ethnic minorities in their own cities. They know perfectly well that what they are doing is unwelcome, because they wouldn't like it if it was done to them. The whole thing is abusive and it has been normalised urm thats the reply i expected thats why i asked so lets say for instance the present state of zionist Israel only exist because of a invasion |
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Post by Orac on Nov 22, 2024 9:58:01 GMT
Absolutely. I would also count legal immigration currently as an invasion. the British government are talking over the the UK public's heads, to invite people in against their aggregate will. The intent / knowledge of the people arriving is also an issue - it is barely credible that many of the people arriving truly believe the UK public want to be ethnic minorities in their own cities. They know perfectly well that what they are doing is unwelcome, because they wouldn't like it if it was done to them. The whole thing is abusive and it has been normalised urm thats the reply i expected thats why i asked so lets say for instance the present state of zionist Israel only exist because of a invasion Sure - if you mean the defeat of the Ottoman empire. The thing is I don't recall the UK losing a war recently |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 10:18:50 GMT
urm thats the reply i expected thats why i asked so lets say for instance the present state of zionist Israel only exist because of a invasion Sure - if you mean the defeat of the Ottoman empire. The thing is I don't recall the UK losing a war recently dont try and be smart the zionist defeated no ottoman empire |
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