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Post by Rebirth on Nov 19, 2024 8:59:15 GMT
Who decided they are economic migrants, prove it. F off. I used the words economic migrant because Asylum seeker distracts people on here away from the conversation. Feel free to use your own description and I'll use mine. Actually, they're illegals who are being encouraged by people like you with your vile virtue signalling. Every death and criminal people trafficking network is on people like you. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 19, 2024 9:02:46 GMT
Who decided they are economic migrants, prove it. F off. I used the words economic migrant because Asylum seeker distracts people on here away from the conversation. Feel free to use your own description and I'll use mine. Can't prove that either then, you are not doing very well. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 19, 2024 9:03:07 GMT
Know my solution is just different to your murderous one. Can I assume you aren't willing to do the job you suggest others do? I love the way you think my disapproval of drowning economic migrants is virtue signalling. You are entertaining. My murderous one? Hilarious, but to be expected coming from you. If you gave a flying fk you wouldn't be virtue signalling to try and encourage the crossings, whilst posting cringeworthy virtue signalling bollocks to feed your daily addiction. You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. However I realise you hadn't thought it through and I backed you into a corner on the effects of your suggestion. I meant no harm, I was just trying to convince you that there is no easy option the government were shying away from. My suggestion is that we move asylum application off shore and make it clear to anyone arriving in the country by other methods that they will NEVER be given the right to live here. That they will be kept in prison camps until they are deported. Any claiming to have legitimate reasons why they arrived here by illegal means will be heard, but they will be shipped to our offshore facility to be processed there. How does that sound? |
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Post by Orac on Nov 19, 2024 9:03:35 GMT
Don’t understand irradiance crime even,if you were right about the increased crime being more in 2nd or 3rd generation isn’t that a good reason to stop them but anyway it’s more those arriving now . I think it indicates what happens to them in their lives, rather than some genetic trait. We see an overtly hostile (to us) culture that produces people who are hostile to us. The precise mechanics are of secondary concern (to us) |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 19, 2024 9:03:45 GMT
Don’t understand irradiance crime even,if you were right about the increased crime being more in 2nd or 3rd generation isn’t that a good reason to stop them but anyway it’s more those arriving now . I think it indicates what happens to them in their lives, rather than some genetic trait. Did I mention any genetic trait? What I did say was letting large numbers of young men from a culture where women have little value is a problem,that is not genetics that is cultural differences. What is wrong with pointing that out. |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 19, 2024 9:06:46 GMT
My murderous one? Hilarious, but to be expected coming from you. If you gave a flying fk you wouldn't be virtue signalling to try and encourage the crossings, whilst posting cringeworthy virtue signalling bollocks to feed your daily addiction. You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. However I realise you hadn't thought it through and I backed you into a corner on the effects of your suggestion. I meant no harm, I was just trying to convince you that there is no easy option the government were shying away from. My suggestion is that we move asylum application off shore and make it clear to anyone arriving in the country by other methods that they will NEVER be given the right to live here. That they will be kept in prison camps until they are deported. Any claiming to have legitimate reasons why they arrived here by illegal means will be heard, but they will be shipped to our offshore facility to be processed there. How does that sound? No, you lied because lying is what you do. If those with a more zero tolerance approach had dealt with the problem there would be no reward at the other end. Lives wouldn't be lost to fullfil your self-righeous desire to virtue signal. France, which has a lot more space, is responsible for them. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 19, 2024 9:09:04 GMT
My murderous one? Hilarious, but to be expected coming from you. If you gave a flying fk you wouldn't be virtue signalling to try and encourage the crossings, whilst posting cringeworthy virtue signalling bollocks to feed your daily addiction. You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. However I realise you hadn't thought it through and I backed you into a corner on the effects of your suggestion. I meant no harm, I was just trying to convince you that there is no easy option the government were shying away from. My suggestion is that we move asylum application off shore and make it clear to anyone arriving in the country by other methods that they will NEVER be given the right to live here. That they will be kept in prison camps until they are deported. Any claiming to have legitimate reasons why they arrived here by illegal means will be heard, but they will be shipped to our offshore facility to be processed there. How does that sound? Wasn't that what the Rwanda scheme was? |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 19, 2024 9:11:39 GMT
You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. However I realise you hadn't thought it through and I backed you into a corner on the effects of your suggestion. I meant no harm, I was just trying to convince you that there is no easy option the government were shying away from. My suggestion is that we move asylum application off shore and make it clear to anyone arriving in the country by other methods that they will NEVER be given the right to live here. That they will be kept in prison camps until they are deported. Any claiming to have legitimate reasons why they arrived here by illegal means will be heard, but they will be shipped to our offshore facility to be processed there. How does that sound? No, you lied because lying is what you do. If those with a more zero tolerance approach had dealt with the problem there would be no reward at the other end. Lives wouldn't be lost to fullfil your self-righeous desire to virtue signal. France, which has a lot more space, is responsible for them. I agree with this. The deaths in the Channel are on the hands of the postmodernists who are more than happy to welcome anyone and everyone. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 19, 2024 9:12:22 GMT
You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. However I realise you hadn't thought it through and I backed you into a corner on the effects of your suggestion. I meant no harm, I was just trying to convince you that there is no easy option the government were shying away from. My suggestion is that we move asylum application off shore and make it clear to anyone arriving in the country by other methods that they will NEVER be given the right to live here. That they will be kept in prison camps until they are deported. Any claiming to have legitimate reasons why they arrived here by illegal means will be heard, but they will be shipped to our offshore facility to be processed there. How does that sound? Wasn't that what the Rwanda scheme was? I hope you are not telling us Zany would lie and cheat and come up with a bunch of red herrings to confuse the matter, oh but wait, |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 19, 2024 9:22:21 GMT
No, you lied because lying is what you do. If those with a more zero tolerance approach had dealt with the problem there would be no reward at the other end. Lives wouldn't be lost to fullfil your self-righeous desire to virtue signal. France, which has a lot more space, is responsible for them. I agree with this. The deaths in the Channel are on the hands of the postmodernists who are more than happy to welcome anyone and everyone. Any deaths in the channel are down to zanys numbers game, risk and reward. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 19, 2024 9:36:19 GMT
My murderous one? Hilarious, but to be expected coming from you. If you gave a flying fk you wouldn't be virtue signalling to try and encourage the crossings, whilst posting cringeworthy virtue signalling bollocks to feed your daily addiction. You suggested we watch them drown. If that isn't murderous I don't know what is. Let me play devil's advocate on this Scenario The government has warned people not to cross the Channel in bathtubs and even written a law to prohibit it - it's a daft, dangerous and illegal thing to do and it looks like some of these people are getting in trouble so they can get a free helicopter ride. Is it particularly murderous to then say - if you do this stupid thing we warned you not to do, you are on your own? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 19, 2024 9:38:03 GMT
I wouldn’t be killing them , they would be killing themselves ..right up to the time when they stopped . The men wouldn’t be doing my dirty work , they would be doing yours . If they were fined for bringing in illegal migrants , just as drivers are , they would take them back to France . You would cry but but non virtue signallers would not . Well you would presumably be willing to watch them drown without helping. I'm not sure human beings could do that, so it still falls to you. If who were fined? The customs officers on the boats turning them back? This is becoming more bizarre. They wouldn’t drown if they didn’t upend their boats . We don’t need to interfere in suicide . Drivers bringing in illegal immigrants are fined . So should anyone bringing in illegal immigrants on boats . Ive already explained this . Do you want me to cut and paste it again ? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 19, 2024 12:36:54 GMT
Absolutely NOT They came here to train They had no right to stay If they want to use their skills in this country, they should apply from their country of birth. We should make it crystal clear any overstayers will never be allowed to immigrate here ever. Of course I can't expect left wingers to understand the concept of a contract, or breach of ut Understand contract and the breaking of one very clearly. The students use to just do there studies then some return home It was the conservatives who brought in the contract has you call it to be Allowed to stay a further 2yrs working in there chosen fields. It seems to me these people was a assets to the country why not has i said make them more secured Because their doing that destroys the ability of our own to get those same qualifications and do those jobs |
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Post by om15 on Nov 19, 2024 12:51:42 GMT
The only way to stop this is to make potential New British people not want to come here, at the moment we hear nonsense about smashing the gangs, those pouring ashore are given 6 star hotels, dentists, doctors, smart phones, free bus passes and fag money.
If those poor unfortunates fleeing from goodness knows what were welcomed with a blanket and a ride in a lorry to places like Catterick in order to be processed then they would stop coming.
I know that and I don't earn millions a year like our leaders do.
Everything else is nonsense to cloud the objective of destroying the British culture and way of life.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 19, 2024 13:03:41 GMT
It is a mixture of everything. Those that have survived best in the particular environment they find themselves are the ones who create the cultures within which they are brought up. They may have physical attributes such as skin colour, strength, size, ability to resist cold/heat but all of these do not come as isolated attributes they come in a package of genes that dictate survival and/or are lucky enough to be hitched to the best survival beings. It is people that create culture and people that modify or change cultures through the process of voluntary mixing. Experience brings out reactions to those events and in general those from different cultures will react in a different way even if only slightly. Small level influx is a good thing to maintain a strong gene pool, high level influx may have benefits at the margins but will result in widespread antipathy and we see that at work as our society is unable to cope with all the different needs and cultural expectations and the incomers unable to cope with what is expected of them. And your conclusion on how this leads to genetic criminality? Over the decades even centuries many racists have tried to hint at a genetic link, but in all the years none has been found. I have said it is a mixture of everything. Genetics gives you predispositions to behave in certain ways in specific circumstances and have specific attributes. The evidence is that is very much the case especially the work on twins separated at birth. The whole issue of course is complicated by nurture and indeed very dependant on which genes get switched on or remain off. I am not saying there is genetic criminality but behaviour is regulated in many ways by one's genes, with old sayings ringing true ' like father like son', 'apple not falling far from the tree', 'cast in the same mould' etc etc. |
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