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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 13:50:06 GMT
Red, that doesn't apply to asylum seekers. But you must know that. Surely you must know that. There are approved channels for asylum seekers, entering the UK illegally by crossing the channel in a dingy is not one of them. I sense we're going around in circles. What are these approved channels? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 23, 2024 13:53:23 GMT
There are approved channels for asylum seekers, entering the UK illegally by crossing the channel in a dingy is not one of them. I sense we're going around in circles. What are these approved channels? The only place you can claim asylum in the UK is physically in the UK. But it doesn't matter how you get there, legally or illegally. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
Legal, Illegal. Look up the words. America does not prevent Illegal migrants with criminal records entering the country because they don't apply to come in. So comparing LEGAL arrivals in America with ILLEGAL arrivals in the UK is duplicitous.Indeed its worse for them with a huge land border making capturing far more difficult than for us with the English Channel. Bollocks zany. Now you are moving the goalposts..... No I'm not. The claim made was that America doesn't let Criminals into the U.S. But we do. I pointed out we don't They pointed out you could take a dingy across the channel (Illegally) without being checked I pointed out you can enter America Illegally without being checked. So comparing LEGAL arrivals in America with ILLEGAL arrivals in the UK is duplicitous.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 13:55:32 GMT
What are these approved channels? The only place you can claim asylum in the UK is physically in the UK. But it doesn't matter how you get there, legally or illegally. Thank you. Saved me another sentence, but Red must know this he's been told 11,679 times. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2024 13:55:40 GMT
Red, that doesn't apply to asylum seekers. But you must know that. Surely you must know that. ZG why do you ignore this question... As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... You want to see the rest of the world come to the UK, but you refuse to say what a future population may consist of. This is typical of lefties who make virtuous demands while completely ignoring the consequences. |
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 23, 2024 13:57:06 GMT
Red, that doesn't apply to asylum seekers. But you must know that. Surely you must know that. ZG why do you ignore this question... As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... You want to see the rest of the world come to the UK, but you refuse to say what a future population may consist of. This is typical of lefties who make virtuous demands while completely ignoring the consequences. The road to hell is paved in good intentions. However, I don't think he has good intentions. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:59:45 GMT
100% of cross channel criminals enter this country from the safe EU state of France. It is absolutely absurd that a criminal can claim asylum having entered this country from France. It might be ridiculous but it’s not illegal. Heading for 12,000 times Red. You must get it eventually. Colluding with criminal traffickers is not illegal? Are you sure ? Probably better to ignore it and put the criminals into hotels instead of prison . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2024 14:00:46 GMT
What are these approved channels? The only place you can claim asylum in the UK is physically in the UK. But it doesn't matter how you get there, legally or illegally. Rubbish. Paying a people smuggler then disposing of passport/ID before crossing the channel in a dingy, is illegal. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 23, 2024 14:04:28 GMT
It did, but only for 90 days or so.
'It' being the applicable section of the Illegal Migration Act 2023.
They were removed with the The Illegal Migration Act 2023 (Amendment) Regulations 2024, within days of Labour entering office.
What an unseemly rush. No sooner had they opened the door and taken their coat off, they were hunting for the document to adjust it. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 14:04:39 GMT
Red, that doesn't apply to asylum seekers. But you must know that. Surely you must know that. ZG why do you ignore this question... As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... You want to see the rest of the world come to the UK, but you refuse to say what a future population may consist of. This is typical of lefties who make virtuous demands while completely ignoring the consequences. Ignore it? I have addressed it so many times. I have suggested methods of sorting economic migrants from Genuine asylum seekers. I have explained to you till I'm blue in the face that its LEGAL immigration THOSE WE INVITE IN that are causing population growth. You seem unable to tell the difference between LEGAL we invited here and ILLEGAL we didn't. Our population would still continue to grow from migration if we stopped every single ILLEGAL migrant. Until you can learn the difference we cannot discuss the solution. Because if I say lets cut immigration and what that will cost, you immediately talk about rubber dinghies. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 14:05:43 GMT
It might be ridiculous but it’s not illegal. Heading for 12,000 times Red. You must get it eventually. Colluding with criminal traffickers is not illegal? Are you sure ? Probably better to ignore it and put the criminals into hotels instead of prison . Only you could conclude that. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 23, 2024 14:06:22 GMT
ZG why do you ignore this question... As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... You want to see the rest of the world come to the UK, but you refuse to say what a future population may consist of. This is typical of lefties who make virtuous demands while completely ignoring the consequences. Ignore it? I have addressed it so many times. I have suggested methods of sorting economic migrants from Genuine asylum seekers. I have explained to you till I'm blue in the face that its LEGAL immigration THOSE WE INVITE IN that are causing population growth. You seem unable to tell the difference between LEGAL we invited here and ILLEGAL we didn't. Our population would still continue to grow from migration if we stopped every single ILLEGAL migrant. Until you can learn the difference we cannot discuss the solution. Because if I say lets cut immigration and what that will cost, you immediately talk about rubber dinghies. Again - As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 14:10:25 GMT
Colluding with criminal traffickers is not illegal? Are you sure ? Probably better to ignore it and put the criminals into hotels instead of prison . Only you could conclude that. Only you could think that colluding with criminal traffickers is not a criminal act . |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 23, 2024 14:10:37 GMT
Ignore it? I have addressed it so many times. I have suggested methods of sorting economic migrants from Genuine asylum seekers. I have explained to you till I'm blue in the face that its LEGAL immigration THOSE WE INVITE IN that are causing population growth. You seem unable to tell the difference between LEGAL we invited here and ILLEGAL we didn't. Our population would still continue to grow from migration if we stopped every single ILLEGAL migrant. Until you can learn the difference we cannot discuss the solution. Because if I say lets cut immigration and what that will cost, you immediately talk about rubber dinghies. Again - As far as the population of the UK is concerned, when will enough be enough? 80 million, 100 million? Give me a number... 60 million. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 23, 2024 14:11:46 GMT
It is a criminal act to enter the UK without leave to do so. The convention agreement means no sanctions will be taken against them, that does not remove the criminality of the act. That has been pointed out many times before and ignored. Perhaps if you re-addressed my point back to Reds it might make sense to you. The criminality of the act has nothing to do with them arriving from a safe country. Red has been told the rules on where you must seek asylum so many times. The fact I was pointing out was that if they arrive illegally, or stay illegally, they are criminals. |
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