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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 21:11:26 GMT
When we get to the point where not letting people drown is virtue signalling I'll let you know. In the meantime. Let’s make it clear to all economic migrants that if they arrive here via the channel they will never be given citizenship. They will be locked up and held until they are deported. If they knew that they wouldn’t be rescued then they wouldn’t upend their boats would they ? Its leftie virtue signallers like you that are responsible for the deaths of migrants who risk their lives, not me . I would go further and fine any vessel landing migrants the same amount as vehicles bringing in illegal migrants by road . The rescuers can land the water logged migrants back to France . Yes illegal migrants wouldn’t want to pay criminals to traffick them into the UK knowing that they would never get UK citizenship. The illegal crossings would stop and we would be left with a residue of criminals who know just about anywhere would be better than where they are . But they would be rescued, because the men you want to do your dirty work for you wont do it. Perhaps you could kill them instead of expecting others to do it for you.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 21:19:14 GMT
If they knew that they wouldn’t be rescued then they wouldn’t upend their boats would they ? Its leftie virtue signallers like you that are responsible for the deaths of migrants who risk their lives, not me . I would go further and fine any vessel landing migrants the same amount as vehicles bringing in illegal migrants by road . The rescuers can land the water logged migrants back to France . Yes illegal migrants wouldn’t want to pay criminals to traffick them into the UK knowing that they would never get UK citizenship. The illegal crossings would stop and we would be left with a residue of criminals who know just about anywhere would be better than where they are . But they would be rescued, because the men you want to do your dirty work for you wont do it. Perhaps you could kill them instead of expecting others to do it for you. I wouldn’t be killing them , they would be killing themselves ..right up to the time when they stopped . The men wouldn’t be doing my dirty work , they would be doing yours . If they were fined for bringing in illegal migrants , just as drivers are , they would take them back to France . You would cry but but non virtue signallers would not .
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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 21:26:36 GMT
Rwanda was a deterrent, the Irish government said illegals were crossing from Northern Ireland into the EU because they were worried about being sent to Rwanda, that's called a deterrent. Come on Red, I know you're not geographically illiterate, so I'm sure you're aware that they still came across the English channel, so saying that it deters the boats is actually disingenuous. Well somebody needs to do something unless you or anyone else of course believe a lot of young men from a culture so different to ours arriving in numbers is a good idea…….well is it?
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 18, 2024 21:49:45 GMT
Being in the country - which implies a deterrent against doing things to be in the country This is like a conversation with an early AI Being in the country at all (which if they moved on to Eire they were) or seeing the UK as a final destination (more arguable)?
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 18, 2024 21:50:34 GMT
Come on Red, I know you're not geographically illiterate, so I'm sure you're aware that they still came across the English channel, so saying that it deters the boats is actually disingenuous. Well somebody needs to do something unless you or anyone else of course believe a lot of young men from a culture so different to ours arriving in numbers is a good idea…….well is it? Are you saying people from a different culture should be here thats interesting
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 18, 2024 21:52:15 GMT
Deterrent from what? They still crossed the English Channel. 🤣🙈 What you mean is they then exited the uk. Well yes, but then don't pretend it's faux outrage about stopping the boats if you're OK with them arriving as long as they leave... Faux outrage ? Migrants travelling through the UK because they might get a better deal in Ireland merely puts us into the same category as France . Correctomundo. But have you noticed how Red was quite happy for those in the UK to travel on to Eire? 🤣 I like it when you make a sensible post - more like these please!
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Post by Orac on Nov 18, 2024 21:52:43 GMT
Being in the country - which implies a deterrent against doing things to be in the country This is like a conversation with an early AI Being in the country at all (which if they moved on to Eire they were) or seeing the UK as a final destination (more arguable)? If people leave the country you can assume they want to be in the country less. If people want to be in the country less, it's safe to assume they want to enter the country lessNot sure what the hiccup is here
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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 21:58:07 GMT
Well somebody needs to do something unless you or anyone else of course believe a lot of young men from a culture so different to ours arriving in numbers is a good idea…….well is it? Are you saying people from a different culture should be here thats interesting Read your reply again
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 21:59:37 GMT
Faux outrage ? Migrants travelling through the UK because they might get a better deal in Ireland merely puts us into the same category as France . Correctomundo. But have you noticed how Red was quite happy for those in the UK to travel on to Eire? 🤣 I like it when you make a sensible post - more like these please! I suspect because it highlights the hypocrisy of the EU and its members . When you make a sensible post then you can match me 👍
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 18, 2024 22:01:58 GMT
Are you saying people from a different culture should be here thats interesting Read your reply again Sorry shouldnt be here thats interesting
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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 22:05:53 GMT
Sorry shouldnt be here thats interesting Why is it interesting,it’s sad really that they are almost all young men few women or kids rock up here from a culture that values women very little,what is interesting is that you appear to think it all ok.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 18, 2024 22:13:19 GMT
Sorry shouldnt be here thats interesting Why is it interesting,it’s sad really that they are almost all young men few women or kids rock up here from a culture that values women very little,what is interesting is that you appear to think it all ok. Yet there more than 2 women a day killed by there partner or ex partner I'm not say ing you think its ok . But can you prove its a cultural thing with some immigrants.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 22:19:16 GMT
Yet there more than 2 women a day killed by there partner or ex partner I'm not say ing you think its ok . But can you prove its a cultural thing with some immigrants. TTL, I'm sure you have heard of so called 'honour killings', which are totally alien to British culture.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 18, 2024 22:22:19 GMT
Yet there more than 2 women a day killed by there partner or ex partner I'm not say ing you think its ok . But can you prove its a cultural thing with some immigrants. TTL, I'm sure you have heard of so called 'honour killings', which are totally alien to British culture. Yes i have but tell me what culture permits it and yes it totally against our culture what you see has our culture?
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Post by wapentake on Nov 18, 2024 22:24:08 GMT
Why is it interesting,it’s sad really that they are almost all young men few women or kids rock up here from a culture that values women very little,what is interesting is that you appear to think it all ok. Yet there more than 2 women a day killed by there partner or ex partner I'm not say ing you think its ok . But can you prove it’s a cultural thing with some immigrants. The problem you have TTL is you think me far right and racist you’ve said so,I’m neither but it is a massive mistake to allow so many young men in,are you saying women from their culture are valued as they are here? I have sympathy for the plight of ordinary Palestinians but not the terrorists,Nutanyahu is a **** but Israel has a right to exist,it’s not our fight and your man Blair is behind a lot of this and movement of people I just don’t want them all coming here. The numbers are too great and a risk to our culture but you can’t see past far right racist and just parrot they are all welcome.
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