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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 14:21:17 GMT
More Waffle a rant with no substance How so? Robinson isn't a terrorist and the anti-terror laws are perverse and used by the two-tier state to shut down dissent, whilst support for actual terrorist organisations was being promoted by the establishment left media. Robinson has been charged, currently suspected of an Offence of failing to comply with a legal requirement under the Terrorism Act, even if he is later convicted of than offence IMO that does mean he is a Terrorist. Anti Terrorism Laws in the UK and other nations are in place for a good reason, to deal with specific offences of Terrorism, I agree with you on Terrorist are within the UK and there is support for them the Protest in support if Hamas and those of the Left Wing and some in the Media support them. There are also supporters of the far Right Wing in the UK, two are on trial now for Offences under the Terrorism Act some are also doing time
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Post by Bentley on Oct 26, 2024 14:22:10 GMT
100% British Patriots! Are taking to the streets......RIP Peter Lynch. Our fucking excuse for a government should be fucking ASHAMED of their treatment of a 61 year old father of four with three grandchildren! DISGUSTING! The government is the executive branch of the three branches* of the state. The courts/judiciary is another branch which, in the case of Peter Lynch, judged him and applied the law. He was sentenced to two years and eight months after he pleaded guilty to being part of the unrest at the Holiday Inn Express in Rotherham on 4 August.**
Lynch had suffered a heart attack earlier in the year and had also been diagnosed with diabetes. He had gone to the hotel to protest against immigration. Part of his defence was that he had a general conspiracy theory against anyone and any form of authority, and had taken a placard referencing Deep State and space agency Nasa. In other words, Lynch was a possible dangerous nutter, who should have had greater regard for his own health and stayed away.
Seems to me that it's always a good idea to stay away from potentially violent demos, whether pro or anti any cause.
Sadly, in the case of Peter Lynch, he didn't even live long enough to serve the 40% of his time...
*Parliament is the third branch of the state.
Using your logic George Floyd brought his death on himself . If only he had done what he was told then he would not have died . Well done .
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 14:23:09 GMT
More Waffle a rant with no substance It's either you don't understand or choose not to understand.
Economics is supply and demand. Lawyers supply legal services. Those services can earn according to demand. The more demand there is the more their wages go up. They also work to create demand by extending the scope of the law so more and more normal and harmless activities are classified as something that will creates demand for lawyer services. Now you love to accuse all and sundry on here as dumb and stupid, but then you fail to grasp this quite simple point. What you see as stupid is often your lack of understanding of it. You don't see sense so you blame it on others. The tax burden on normal people is at an all-time high. This conflict of interests must be addressed. It's not just lawyers either. It might be so-called child services and children with special needs. They classify so then that extends the tax bill.
If I ever understand you I will seek Medical Help ASAP,
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 26, 2024 14:26:03 GMT
They are moving the goal posts on definitions of terrorists.
Tommy Robinson has not threatened or committed any acts of terrorism, gone are the days when terrorists were people who blew innocent people up, planted bombs, conspired to commit mass murder, can anyone tell me exactly what Robinson has done to be classified as a 'terrorist'? Apart from using his Freedom of speech and right to protest as a patriotic citizen?
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Post by sandypine on Oct 26, 2024 14:26:33 GMT
Just to live in our own country FFS. We are second class citezens in our own countr... Regurgitated rhetoric bollocks — give some verified specifics, and you might get a sensible discussion...
There are many verified specifics. Black Police Association membership. Black and ethnic minority groups that cannot exist for white people. Positive action in Equality act. Operation black vote which is the home of black politics, no white politics group can legally exist. Political groups specifically outlawed from existing based on ethnicity.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 26, 2024 14:31:54 GMT
If the police had any sense they too should be supporting the Tommy Robinson protests, after the way the left have treated a fellow officer, put him and his family through two years of hell just for doing his job, the lefties do nothing but criticise the police, and yet the police bend over backwards for them, the police should be backing those who back them, not those who demand the police should leave them alone so they can go about their daily crimes as drug dealing gangsters, who have the full protection from the police and lefties if these gangs just happen to be Black man.
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Post by patman post on Oct 26, 2024 14:49:17 GMT
Indeed — and we're now expected to feel outraged when a convicted rioter dies while serving time in prison... But ‘ we’ were supposed to be outraged when a black violent criminal was rightly shot by police and believe the bullshit given out by his family ..until we weren’t . Yes,a frail (both physically and mentally) white man given a long sentence ,as an example,for shouting at police is something to be outraged at …as you would have been had he been black. The Kaba shooting always seemed to have more behind it. Now we know what. But I don't remember commenting — though perhaps something will be dug up if I did.
Rioting is serious. Those who took part, whether as part of anti or pro immigration violence, and were arrested and charged with committing crimes and pled guilty, were tried. Lynch was judged to have been a full participant in the disorder and endeavouring to rev up the situation. I don't think his ethnicity did, or should, count in determining his sentence...
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2024 14:53:03 GMT
But ‘ we’ were supposed to be outraged when a black violent criminal was rightly shot by police and believe the bullshit given out by his family ..until we weren’t . Yes,a frail (both physically and mentally) white man given a long sentence ,as an example,for shouting at police is something to be outraged at …as you would have been had he been black. The Kaba shooting always seemed to have more behind it. Now we know what. But I don't remember commenting — though perhaps something will be dug up if I did.
Rioting is serious. Those who took part, whether as part of anti or pro immigration violence, and were arrested and charged with committing crimes and pled guilty, were tried. Lynch was judged to have been a full participant in the disorder and endeavouring to rev up the situation. I don't think his ethnicity did, or should, count in determining his sentence...
Spoken like a true virtual signalling woke lefty...
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Post by Bentley on Oct 26, 2024 14:57:37 GMT
But ‘ we’ were supposed to be outraged when a black violent criminal was rightly shot by police and believe the bullshit given out by his family ..until we weren’t . Yes,a frail (both physically and mentally) white man given a long sentence ,as an example,for shouting at police is something to be outraged at …as you would have been had he been black. The Kaba shooting always seemed to have more behind it. Now we know what. But I don't remember commenting — though perhaps something will be dug up if I did.
Rioting is serious. Those who took part, whether as part of anti or pro immigration violence, and were arrested and charged with committing crimes and pled guilty, were tried. Lynch was judged to have been a full participant in the disorder and endeavouring to rev up the situation. I don't think his ethnicity did, or should, count in determining his sentence...
There was nothing more behind it than a dangerous criminal putting officers at risk and being shot . The bullshit and contrived black victimhood came after it . Lynch was a sick man who,put himself into a situation that exacerbated his mental fragility. He was sentenced to a long spell in prison as an example . It wasn’t appropriate Two Tier said it would happen . I’ve seen nothing like this to compare with black or Muslims shouting at police . Don’t pretend otherwise .
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Post by patman post on Oct 26, 2024 14:59:03 GMT
Peter Lynch carried a placard that stated that police chiefs, reporters, civil servants, judges and the Environment Agency were all "corrupt". But although his sign and protest was not unlawful, his verbal abuse towards police officers during the "racist incident" crossed the line, Judge Richardson said.
"You were unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation the best you could," the judge told Lynch
He was a "full participant" in the disorder, the court was told. Thus, the intention was there...
His Placard only spoke the truth FFS...And what intention would that be then Pat FFS? Can you not understand what's posted?
The court's findings were that the "sign and protest was not unlawful". But Lynch was "unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation" and was a "full participant" in the disorder.
Thus the intention "to rev up the situation" was judged to be there...
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Post by patman post on Oct 26, 2024 15:00:28 GMT
The Kaba shooting always seemed to have more behind it. Now we know what. But I don't remember commenting — though perhaps something will be dug up if I did.
Rioting is serious. Those who took part, whether as part of anti or pro immigration violence, and were arrested and charged with committing crimes and pled guilty, were tried. Lynch was judged to have been a full participant in the disorder and endeavouring to rev up the situation. I don't think his ethnicity did, or should, count in determining his sentence...
Spoken like a true virtual signalling woke lefty... Should we understand that you disagree...?
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2024 15:02:01 GMT
Spoken like a true virtual signalling woke lefty... Should we understand that you disagree...? Of course. You are talking total bollocks pat....
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Post by patman post on Oct 26, 2024 15:07:35 GMT
The Kaba shooting always seemed to have more behind it. Now we know what. But I don't remember commenting — though perhaps something will be dug up if I did.
Rioting is serious. Those who took part, whether as part of anti or pro immigration violence, and were arrested and charged with committing crimes and pled guilty, were tried. Lynch was judged to have been a full participant in the disorder and endeavouring to rev up the situation. I don't think his ethnicity did, or should, count in determining his sentence...
There was nothing more behind it than a dangerous criminal putting officers at risk and being shot . The bullshit and contrived black victimhood came after it . Lynch was a sick man who,put himself into a situation that exacerbated his mental fragility. He was sentenced to a long spell in prison as an example . It wasn’t appropriate Two Tier said it would happen . I’ve seen nothing like this to compare with black or Muslims shouting at police . Don’t pretend otherwise . I confess I knew nothing about Kaba's background — all I was aware of at the time was the reports of the shooting. But it did seem unlikely that a police vehicle crewed by armed police was involved in a routine traffic stop...
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2024 15:07:40 GMT
His Placard only spoke the truth FFS...And what intention would that be then Pat FFS? Can you not understand what's posted?
The court's findings were that the "sign and protest was not unlawful". But Lynch was "unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation" and was a "full participant" in the disorder.
Thus the intention "to rev up the situation" was judged to be there... I can understand you are wriggling pat...How do you know what that mans intentions were? I see yet again you failed to answer a simple question about why are those unwanted are allowed to protest and shout and display placards that stir up race hatred on our streets with impunity whilst someone who is white and born in this country gets banged up for years for doing less?
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 26, 2024 15:07:50 GMT
His Placard only spoke the truth FFS...And what intention would that be then Pat FFS? Can you not understand what's posted?
The court's findings were that the "sign and protest was not unlawful". But Lynch was "unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation" and was a "full participant" in the disorder.
Thus the intention "to rev up the situation" was judged to be there... The only thing the Met police have to answer is why this drug dealing gang members wasn't shot dead long before he had the chance to shoot the victim in the nightclub, the police had him on radar they knew he was a drug dealing gang member and allowed him to go about his business, that's what the Met are guilty of, until one brave officer rid the streets of a highly dangerous drug dealing gang lord.
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