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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 22:20:30 GMT
I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. correct his parents were Irish he was adopted into a white middle class family. hes nothing but a rebel raiser . I used to know an Irishman called Ginge from Manchester. He was a rebel as well, but his mad ideas provided the excitement. This is why we like Tommy, cos he has all sorts of mad ideas, and it is good entertainment. A bit of diversity for ya.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2024 0:37:58 GMT
All he had to do was surrender his fucking pin. All this bullshit is a direct result of his refusal, and suggests either something to hide or publicity seeking. He wants to be seen as a martyr by the idiots who share his prejudices. Why should he?. The terrorism charge was only used as part of a fishing expedition because the Police did not have enough evidence for a Court Search Warrant. I'm unclear why the suspect should assist the Police in such a case? None of us know what information the police are privy to and might be acting upon. If their request is reasonable and lawful based upon what they already might know, he is only digging a bigger hole for himself in the cause of personal martyrdom. If he has nothing to hide the wisest course would be to give them the pigging pin. then pursue them for damages in court if there is nothing of note to be found.
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 27, 2024 2:35:45 GMT
Why should he?. The terrorism charge was only used as part of a fishing expedition because the Police did not have enough evidence for a Court Search Warrant. I'm unclear why the suspect should assist the Police in such a case? None of us know what information the police are privy to and might be acting upon. If their request is reasonable and lawful based upon what they already might know, he is only digging a bigger hole for himself in the cause of personal martyrdom. If he has nothing to hide the wisest course would be to give them the pigging pin. then pursue them for damages in court if there is nothing of note to be found. like most criminal element he would see the police has scum and would be reluctant to provide the police with anything . hes nothing but a F-ing T--T
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2024 7:52:49 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle...
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 27, 2024 8:29:16 GMT
None of us know what information the police are privy to and might be acting upon. If their request is reasonable and lawful based upon what they already might know, he is only digging a bigger hole for himself in the cause of personal martyrdom. If he has nothing to hide the wisest course would be to give them the pigging pin. then pursue them for damages in court if there is nothing of note to be found. like most criminal element he would see the police has scum and would be reluctant to provide the police with anything . hes nothing but a F-ing T--T In all honesty why would they actually need his pin anyway, they would have a record of his phone calls and messages and even if they are secure, they can just demand they be handed over. Not only that they can break any phone code known to man.Many people spend half their lives listening in on those who could be deemed terrorists at some point.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 27, 2024 8:50:56 GMT
Police do not decide who is guilty or not , nor do they decide what happens in Court the Courts decide who is guilty or innocent Perhaps you should look up the criteria for a police state. Perhaps you should live in the real world, it is the Court that decides if a person is innocent or guilty by the due process of Law
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Post by wapentake on Oct 27, 2024 8:54:12 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle... Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention. I think it’s because he left the country when he was due in court,in contempt of court iirc.
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 27, 2024 8:58:58 GMT
like most criminal element he would see the police has scum and would be reluctant to provide the police with anything . hes nothing but a F-ing T--T In all honesty why would they actually need his pin anyway, they would have a record of his phone calls and messages and even if they are secure, they can just demand they be handed over. Not only that they can break any phone code known to man.Many people spend half their lives listening in on those who could be deemed terrorists at some point. WHY cause trouble and just give them the pin were talking about a man who has utter disrespect for the police . He disobeyed several court restriction orders . he nothing but a serial criminal who should spend at least 12yrs behind bars
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Post by Handyman on Oct 27, 2024 9:01:56 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle... Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention. Thanks for that, according to the press reports I read, Robinson failed to attend the High Court regarding a Libel case some months ago June or July and the Judge issued a Warrant but with a provision it would not be live until October to allow him to attend of his own volition. As he did not attend the Warrant went live, hence kept in Custody until tomorrow when he will be put before the High Court
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Post by sheepy on Oct 27, 2024 9:03:56 GMT
WHY cause trouble and just give them the pin were talking about a man who has utter disrespect for the police . He disobeyed several court restriction orders . he nothing but a serial criminal who should spend at least 12yrs behind bars Well maybe, but reality says they being the establishment have been openly caught trying to fit him up before, so for one minute put yourself in his shoes, yes you might well be a known rabble rouser but in your mind for good reason, but on the other hand you also know the establishment is actually out to get you for it, would you make it easy for them? not if you had any sense, but also on the other hand he would surely know they didn't really need his pin. Cat and mouse me thinks.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 27, 2024 9:10:25 GMT
Perhaps you should look up the criteria for a police state. Perhaps you should live in the real world, it is the Court that decides if a person is innocent or guilty by the due process of Law I do, you appear to live in an police-state which you believe to be just. I suspect you just dislike the bloke and put that ahead of actual justice, where I am looking at the bigger picture.
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 27, 2024 9:14:27 GMT
WHY cause trouble and just give them the pin were talking about a man who has utter disrespect for the police . He disobeyed several court restriction orders . he nothing but a serial criminal who should spend at least 12yrs behind bars Well maybe, but reality says they being the establishment have been openly caught trying to fit him up before, so for one minute put yourself in his shoes, yes you might well be a known rabble rouser but in your mind for good reason, but on the other hand you also know the establishment is actually out to get you for it, would you make it easy for them? not if you had any sense, but also on the other hand he would surely know they didn't really need his pin. Cat and mouse me thinks. We have to wait and see what the police investigations reveal if anything .
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 27, 2024 9:15:31 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle... Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention. That's exactly what it is, and only a fool would doubt that it's politically motivated and there's a lot of those around on here. They can do this to anyone. What about the leftist dogma of guilty by association? Do we all become supporters of terrorism if we agree with any of Robinson's points? I know everything the government throws at us results in a downward trend, and from here I cannot see any limit to that, especially with so many being led with their feelies instead of their brain.
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Post by wapentake on Oct 27, 2024 9:33:08 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle... Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention. That's exactly what it is, and only a fool would doubt that it's politically motivated and there's a lot of those around on here. They can do this to anyone. What about the leftist dogma of guilty by association? Do we all become supporters of terrorism if we agree with any of Robinson's points? I know everything the government throws at us results in a downward trend, and from here I cannot see any limit to that, especially with so many being led with their feelies instead of their brain. No it isn’t,he ducked a court appearance and left the country,he organised a demo and came back openly on social media saying I will be arrested on my return which coincided with the demo. He knew exactly what he was doing,he’s an attention seeking ****.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2024 9:33:46 GMT
Here is an interesting wrinkle... Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, handed himself in to Folkestone police station on Friday afternoon where he was charged with failing to provide the pin to his mobile phone under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He was bailed to appear in court next month, Kent police said. He was then remanded in custody under a high court direction, the force said.
So he was originally bailed on the Terrorism charge but someone in the High Court stepped in and insisted on remand.. What prompted that High Court direction? The march this weekend? - Sounds like preventative detention. It sounds to me, from a procedural standpoint, that he was being dealt with for two separate matters.
Was he not wanted for something previously?
Edit: Beaten to it by Wapentake.
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