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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 19:53:13 GMT
What about his right to privacy? He's not a bloody terrorist. The wankers are making it up. Speaking of which one of his other made up names was Wayne King  The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 26, 2024 20:21:01 GMT
Then don't, but if you think regurgitating idealism is going to wash with me on this then I'm only going to die of boredom. People can be innocent and still be arrested in a police-state if they're seen to be upsetting the authoritarian order, which in this case, is the Labour government. It's a method of intimidation and the fact that it's generally accepted that we live under two-tier justice demonstrates that the police are also a politically controlled entity that functions as part of a police state. This isn't bashing every police officer, only the corruption and abuse that exists within the system.
Well let me bore you some more with fact. There are only so many Offences in the UK that have a Power of Arrest attached to it, if the Offence you are suspected of committing does not have that Power attached to it the Police cannot Arrest you. If the Officer does Arrest you he or she has made an Unlawful Arrest and you can sue the Police. The Judiciary and Police are not controlled by the Government of the day, it is down to the Heads of the Police themselves how they are deployed run I do agree there is corruption, criminality and incompetence in any Organisation such as the NHS, Banking, Civil Service, Businesses Politics etc etc anything people are involved in I didn't ask for your search results, which are questionable at best. What matters is the reality of the situation, where we are living under a two-tier system, which by all accounts is blatently discrimatory and goes against even the most basic civil liberties. Obviously the police are controlled by government since the commissioner is accountable to the Home Office, which is currently held by Labour's deranged Blairite. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 26, 2024 20:31:39 GMT
Speaking of which one of his other made up names was Wayne King The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. I believe a few on here hate him because somebody suggested that he maybe Jewish. I think a few of his supporters once waved an Israeli flag which made the lefties go mad. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2024 20:37:19 GMT
Farage just dog whistles what Robinson says bluntly. Both are twats but Farage is the more intelligent one. What does Robinson say bluntly that you find unacceptable? Nothing you'd disagree with I'm sure. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 26, 2024 20:38:17 GMT
What are you talking about? Cleverley is the son of a White man from Wiltshire and his mother is from Sierra Leone. So? So why is his name made up? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 20:52:13 GMT
So why is his name made up? Do you know anyone with a surname Cleverly? It probably worked for his job applications or something. It's quite common these days to change your name to something a bit dickish like that. I used to know Elvis Presley, honest. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2024 20:57:00 GMT
I have a laptop. Let's just assume the police arrived one day with court authority to see what I had on it and demanded my pin. I would of course want to know what they suspected I had on it since my immediate thought would be that someone had made malicious allegations against me as I have never accessed anything illegal on it. If I fought it it would be through the courts because I would want as much info as I could get on the reasons for the demand, since I would obviously want to know who was saying what about me and why. I would comply with any request to seize my laptop but if I chose to fight it in court I would withhold my pin and seek legal advice and not disclose my pin until or unless the legal advice told me to. Police possession of my laptop in the meantime would ensure that they knew I had no ability to delete anything on it.
But in the final analysis, unless legal advice advised otherwise, I'd let them have the damned pin because it would be the easiest way of demonstrating that I had been doing nothing illegal on it. Once this had been ascertained I would be demanding the rapid return of my property and looking into the possibility of civil action either against the police for unreasonable arrest, or against anyone who had made false allegations against me, whose identifies I would try and force disclosure of.
That is how an innocent man with nothing to hide might respond. But someone with either something to hide or a desire to seek publicity - or both - would be far more likely to do exactly what Robinson has done.
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Post by wapentake on Oct 26, 2024 21:00:02 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 21:07:44 GMT
OK fair enough. It was only a guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2024 21:09:30 GMT
You may guess right or you may guess wrongly, IMO it appears to me they have a reason for wanting to see what is on his Phone and who or what organisations he is contact with . Here is what he has been charged with He is accused of being in contempt of court following the airing of a film at a protest in central London and after attending Folkestone Police station on Friday, he was separately charged with failing to provide his mobile phone Pin to police under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000, IMO not charged with an Act of Terrorism, but failing to comply with legislation which is part of the Terrorism Act It's a load of fucking bullshit. A real terrorist would be like the Baader-Meinhof Gang or the IRA, not a man who hangs around London giving out leaflets or whatever he does at these gigs. It's just a waste of our taxes. The judges and lawyers are making a killing out of all this self-developed bullshit. All he had to do was surrender his fucking pin. All this bullshit is a direct result of his refusal, and suggests either something to hide or publicity seeking. He wants to be seen as a martyr by the idiots who share his prejudices. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 21:15:33 GMT
It's a load of fucking bullshit. A real terrorist would be like the Baader-Meinhof Gang or the IRA, not a man who hangs around London giving out leaflets or whatever he does at these gigs. It's just a waste of our taxes. The judges and lawyers are making a killing out of all this self-developed bullshit. All he had to do was surrender his fucking pin. All this bullshit is a direct result of his refusal, and suggests either something to hide or publicity seeking. He wants to be seen as a martyr by the idiots who share his prejudices. I do understand the English language and know what terror means, and hence I know what anti-terrorist legislation means as well. Since when were you terrified of a man who refused to give you his pin? This is the shit we face in modern Britain. Nothing is what they say it is.
This is terror.
Now I want the police I pay for to deal with real threat, no this shit.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 26, 2024 21:27:15 GMT
Speaking of which one of his other made up names was Wayne King The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. Irish and terrorism are not exactly distant bedfellows... |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 26, 2024 21:30:04 GMT
It's a load of fucking bullshit. A real terrorist would be like the Baader-Meinhof Gang or the IRA, not a man who hangs around London giving out leaflets or whatever he does at these gigs. It's just a waste of our taxes. The judges and lawyers are making a killing out of all this self-developed bullshit. All this bullshit is a direct result of his refusal, and suggests either something to hide or publicity seeking. He wants to be seen as a martyr by the idiots who share his prejudices. Why should he?. The terrorism charge was only used as part of a fishing expedition because the Police did not have enough evidence for a Court Search Warrant. I'm unclear why the suspect should assist the Police in such a case? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 21:45:19 GMT
I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. Irish and terrorism are not exactly distant bedfellows... I know. Tommy though is just a bit of a naughty boy sometimes. You really need a victim to create a crime. Has he ever broken anyone's nose or stolen a large amount of money? All they ever get him on is technicalities and not dotting the I. They are wankers. All prosecutions should be in the public interest and his continual persecution is not. It would not be so bad if they were actually on the scene to apprehend real terrorists like the Manchester incident, where they looked the other way just before the boom to avoid looking prejudiced. |
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 26, 2024 22:06:42 GMT
Speaking of which one of his other made up names was Wayne King The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke I heard somewhere he was a of Irish roots. As we all know the Irish have some strange ways. No need to classify him as a terrorist though. correct his parents were Irish he was adopted into a white middle class family. hes nothing but a rebel raiser . |
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The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke 
