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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 16:36:04 GMT
What a load of nonsense , that is why I don't believe you on this subject It isn't required and let's be honest, he was found guilty before he was even arrested under this highly politicised two-tier police state. Police do not decide who is guilty or not , nor do they decide what happens in Court the Courts decide who is guilty or innocent |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 26, 2024 16:38:04 GMT
It isn't required and let's be honest, he was found guilty before he was even arrested under this highly politicised two-tier police state. Police do not decide who is guilty or not , nor do they decide what happens in Court the Courts decide who is guilty or innocent Perhaps you should look up the criteria for a police state. |
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Post by om15 on Oct 26, 2024 16:48:45 GMT
The silence from the left on the death of Mr Lynch is deafening, a large number of the electorate think there is a two tier justice system, that there is unduly unfair and oppressive State bullying of white people and that the left establishment of the CPS and OIPC were only put back in their box by twelve men and true, but Starmer doesn't care, he has a majority and that is all that matters.
We can only hope that funding is made available to challenge the behaviour of the Government in the Courts on a case by case basis, much in the same way Reform intend to mount a private prosecution against the two violent criminals that attacked the police officers in Manchester.
Mr Lynch was obviously a disturbed person with mental health issues, only in North Korea and the UK would he be put in prison, Kaba was a violent criminal that was a gang leader, drug dealer, he shot someone just prior to his death and the Government fell over backwards to support his family and not the public servant that did his duty.
The disgusting family of the criminal Kaba should be invoiced for the bullet, those lawyers that told the Jury that he was a lovely family man should be charged with perjury and those that decided to name the Police Officer should be held to account.
Those race baiters such as the Mayor of London are creating immeasurable damage to good race relations, but that is their aim of course, discord not harmony, it remains to be seen how long the electorate will permit this situation to go on.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 26, 2024 16:50:32 GMT
The silence from the left on the death of Mr Lynch is deafening, a large number of the electorate think there is a two tier justice system, that there is unduly unfair and oppressive State bullying of white people and that the left establishment of the CPS and OIPC were only put back in their box by twelve men and true, but Starmer doesn't care, he has a majority and that is all that matters. We can only hope that funding is made available to challenge the behaviour of the Government in the Courts on a case by case basis, much in the same way Reform intend to mount a private prosecution against the two violent criminals that attacked the police officers in Manchester. Mr Lynch was obviously a disturbed person with mental health issues, only in North Korea and the UK would he be put in prison, Kaba was a violent criminal that was a gang leader, drug dealer, he shot someone just prior to his death and the Government fell over backwards to support his family and not the public servant that did his duty. The disgusting family of the criminal Kaba should be invoiced for the bullet, those lawyers that told the Jury that he was a lovely family man should be charged with perjury and those that decided to name the Police Officer should be held to account. Those race baiters such as the Mayor of London are creating immeasurable damage to good race relations, but that is their aim of course, discord not harmony, it remains to be seen how long the electorate will permit this situation to go on. Well said. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 16:52:02 GMT
What a load of nonsense , that is why I don't believe you on this subject It isn't required and let's be honest, he was found guilty before he was even arrested under this highly politicised two-tier police state. When anyone is arrest they are suspected of an Offence if charged they are still innocent when they go to Court they are still innocent if found not guilty they are innocent if found Guilty, that is when they are no longer innocent and not before |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 16:57:09 GMT
Police do not decide who is guilty or not , nor do they decide what happens in Court the Courts decide who is guilty or innocent Perhaps you should look up the criteria for a police state. Why would I wish to , I was not born into a Police State for 74 years I did not live in a Police state , when I left to live in another country I still don't live in a Police state. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 26, 2024 16:58:52 GMT
The silence from the left on the death of Mr Lynch is deafening, a large number of the electorate think there is a two tier justice system, that there is unduly unfair and oppressive State bullying of white people and that the left establishment of the CPS and OIPC were only put back in their box by twelve men and true, but Starmer doesn't care, he has a majority and that is all that matters. We can only hope that funding is made available to challenge the behaviour of the Government in the Courts on a case by case basis, much in the same way Reform intend to mount a private prosecution against the two violent criminals that attacked the police officers in Manchester. Mr Lynch was obviously a disturbed person with mental health issues, only in North Korea and the UK would he be put in prison, Kaba was a violent criminal that was a gang leader, drug dealer, he shot someone just prior to his death and the Government fell over backwards to support his family and not the public servant that did his duty. The disgusting family of the criminal Kaba should be invoiced for the bullet, those lawyers that told the Jury that he was a lovely family man should be charged with perjury and those that decided to name the Police Officer should be held to account. Those race baiters such as the Mayor of London are creating immeasurable damage to good race relations, but that is their aim of course, discord not harmony, it remains to be seen how long the electorate will permit this situation to go on. I couldn't have said it better. The Mayor of London needs to maintain the belief that white people are bad in order to maintain the divide which keeps him in power. The Left are so braindead in their belief that only white people are racist that they're incapable of seeing just how repulsive this man really is. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 26, 2024 17:12:57 GMT
Speaking of which one of his other made up names was Wayne King  The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke I suspect James Cleverly's surname was made up as well. I know Kemi Badenoch is not her real name. Stalin was not his real name either. What are you talking about? Cleverley is the son of a White man from Wiltshire and his mother is from Sierra Leone. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 26, 2024 17:33:37 GMT
Perhaps you should look up the criteria for a police state. Why would I wish to , I was not born into a Police State for 74 years I did not live in a Police state , when I left to live in another country I still don't live in a Police state. Then don't, but if you think regurgitating idealism is going to wash with me on this then I'm only going to die of boredom. People can be innocent and still be arrested in a police-state if they're seen to be upsetting the authoritarian order, which in this case, is the Labour government. It's a method of intimidation and the fact that it's generally accepted that we live under two-tier justice demonstrates that the police are also a politically controlled entity that functions as part of a police state. This isn't bashing every police officer, only the corruption and abuse that exists within the system.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 26, 2024 18:10:14 GMT
What about his right to privacy? He's not a bloody terrorist. The wankers are making it up. Robinson courts Publicity he loves it not Privacy, Police do have the power to demand your PIN number Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 contains the relevant power. If your phone has been seized, or in circumstances where they have the power to inspect it, the police can give you notice that they require you to provide the PIN or “encryption key” to allow them access. The same applies to other devices such as computers. Written permission must be obtained from a Judge or a District Judge for the giving of a notice under section 49, this then provides “appropriate permission”. The person with “appropriate permission” requesting the information must believe, on reasonable grounds: that the key or PIN is in your possession; that the notice is necessary for the grounds listed below, or it is necessary for the purpose of securing the effective exercise or proper performance by any public authority of any statutory power or duty the notice is proportionate; and that it is not reasonably practicable for the person to obtain possession of the protected information without the giving of a notice. A notice is necessary (as in (2) above) if it is necessary: in the interests of national security; for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime or it is in the interests of the economic well-being of the UK. What would “notice” be? A notice has to be in writing (or otherwise recorded), set out the protected information to which it relates, set out the grounds for requiring it (as above), specify the office, rank or position of the person giving it, specify the office, rank or position of the person granting permission for it to be given, specify the time by which the notice is to be complied with, and finally, what disclosure is required and how it is to be provided. . What if I do not know the PIN or still don’t want to give it? If you do not comply with a properly given notice, you can be prosecuted. If you know the information required and refuse to provide it, you can be sentenced to a maximum of 2 years imprisonment or 5 years imprisonment for an offence involving national security or child indecency. Can't the ''authorities'' simply get this information from the internet/phone provider using a mandatory injunction? |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 18:42:30 GMT
Robinson courts Publicity he loves it not Privacy, Police do have the power to demand your PIN number Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 contains the relevant power. If your phone has been seized, or in circumstances where they have the power to inspect it, the police can give you notice that they require you to provide the PIN or “encryption key” to allow them access. The same applies to other devices such as computers. Written permission must be obtained from a Judge or a District Judge for the giving of a notice under section 49, this then provides “appropriate permission”. The person with “appropriate permission” requesting the information must believe, on reasonable grounds: that the key or PIN is in your possession; that the notice is necessary for the grounds listed below, or it is necessary for the purpose of securing the effective exercise or proper performance by any public authority of any statutory power or duty the notice is proportionate; and that it is not reasonably practicable for the person to obtain possession of the protected information without the giving of a notice. A notice is necessary (as in (2) above) if it is necessary: in the interests of national security; for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime or it is in the interests of the economic well-being of the UK. What would “notice” be? A notice has to be in writing (or otherwise recorded), set out the protected information to which it relates, set out the grounds for requiring it (as above), specify the office, rank or position of the person giving it, specify the office, rank or position of the person granting permission for it to be given, specify the time by which the notice is to be complied with, and finally, what disclosure is required and how it is to be provided. . What if I do not know the PIN or still don’t want to give it? If you do not comply with a properly given notice, you can be prosecuted. If you know the information required and refuse to provide it, you can be sentenced to a maximum of 2 years imprisonment or 5 years imprisonment for an offence involving national security or child indecency. Can't the ''authorities'' simply get this information from the internet/phone provider using a mandatory injunction? It takes time lots of a Paedophile living in the UK used his phone to exchange photo's and phone numbers with Paedophiles in America and other countries if I recall correctly, the Phone Company of his phone was based in America and took months and Court Orders to get the information/ evidence they needed to charge him in the UK . The Police if they have to or need to can seize Phones and other Electronic Gadgets . Under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE), the police have the power to seize and retain property that is relevant to an investigation. This includes mobile phones, which can be confiscated as evidence in most criminal cases. The police can seize a phone if they believe it contains evidence that is relevant to an investigation – this might be text messages, call logs, or photos. The phone can also be confiscated if the police believe it was used to commit a crime, or if it is necessary to prevent the destruction of evidence. Can the police get into my phone? Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA), the police have the power to access and retrieve data from a mobile phone. They may do so if they believe the phone contains relevant information that could assist an investigation. The police might also use this power, if they believe the phone is connected to a serious crime, or if they are trying to prevent a crime from taking place. Do I have to provide my pin? In general, if the police ask you to provide your pin, you are not required to give it to them, however there is an exception. If the police can prove that certain factors are at play, in particular that attaining the pin is necessary for the purpose of detecting or preventing a crime, they can ask a judge to provide written permission to give a notice under section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. Failure to provide your pin in these circumstances can result in up to two years in prison, potentially more if the case involves child indecency or issues of national security. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2024 19:11:29 GMT
Why would I wish to , I was not born into a Police State for 74 years I did not live in a Police state , when I left to live in another country I still don't live in a Police state. Then don't, but if you think regurgitating idealism is going to wash with me on this then I'm only going to die of boredom. People can be innocent and still be arrested in a police-state if they're seen to be upsetting the authoritarian order, which in this case, is the Labour government. It's a method of intimidation and the fact that it's generally accepted that we live under two-tier justice demonstrates that the police are also a politically controlled entity that functions as part of a police state. This isn't bashing every police officer, only the corruption and abuse that exists within the system.
Well let me bore you some more with fact. There are only so many Offences in the UK that have a Power of Arrest attached to it, if the Offence you are suspected of committing does not have that Power attached to it the Police cannot Arrest you. If the Officer does Arrest you he or she has made an Unlawful Arrest and you can sue the Police. The Judiciary and Police are not controlled by the Government of the day, it is down to the Heads of the Police themselves how they are deployed run I do agree there is corruption, criminality and incompetence in any Organisation such as the NHS, Banking, Civil Service, Businesses Politics etc etc anything people are involved in |
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Post by honestjohn on Oct 26, 2024 19:30:01 GMT
What he was was a man who believed in what he was doing and he felt he was standing up for his people, hence he wanted to go there and be at all the protests, much as if you were say a football team supporter and you would travel to all their away matches to give your moral encouragement. So I think how he saw it was part of his culture. For a crime to be committed, you not only have to do the crime, but you have to intend to do it. I don't believe he had the intent. What I think happened was he had a dodgy lawyer who forgot to tell him this and so he assumed the action was enough to prove guilt. Not so. The classic lie by omission ruse. Lynchwas filmed calling the police "scum". Peter Lynch carried a placard that stated that police chiefs, reporters, civil servants, judges and the Environment Agency were all "corrupt". But although his sign and protest was not unlawful, his verbal abuse towards police officers during the "racist incident" crossed the line, Judge Richardson said.
"You were unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation the best you could," the judge told Lynch
He was a "full participant" in the disorder, the court was told. Thus, the intention was there...
Not really rioting, then, was he? Never mind, there's now another space in prison for the guy who broke the PW's nose at Manchester Airport. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 19:48:07 GMT
It's either you don't understand or choose not to understand.
Economics is supply and demand. Lawyers supply legal services. Those services can earn according to demand. The more demand there is the more their wages go up. They also work to create demand by extending the scope of the law so more and more normal and harmless activities are classified as something that will creates demand for lawyer services. Now you love to accuse all and sundry on here as dumb and stupid, but then you fail to grasp this quite simple point. What you see as stupid is often your lack of understanding of it. You don't see sense so you blame it on others. The tax burden on normal people is at an all-time high. This conflict of interests must be addressed. It's not just lawyers either. It might be so-called child services and children with special needs. They classify so then that extends the tax bill.
If I ever understand you I will seek Medical Help ASAP, Oh you are such a wit when you can't deal with the issue you quote. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 19:50:08 GMT
I suspect James Cleverly's surname was made up as well. I know Kemi Badenoch is not her real name. Stalin was not his real name either. What are you talking about? Cleverley is the son of a White man from Wiltshire and his mother is from Sierra Leone. So? |
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The story goes an uncle suggested it as a laugh and Yaxley dropped it when he realised he was the butt of the family joke 