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Post by Bentley on Oct 26, 2024 13:18:38 GMT
Can't you read?, it said 'criminals' in the dinghies, why would we treat criminals with 'respect', they are not vulnerable they are evading capture from the place they committed their crimes, save your compassion for the victims of these criminals, and the ones who are about to become their next victims, .... vulnerable men FFS When did they have a prosecution that deemed them as criminals? You dont have to be prosecuted to have committed a crime you silly old duffer . |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 26, 2024 13:52:03 GMT
Can't you read?, it said 'criminals' in the dinghies, why would we treat criminals with 'respect', they are not vulnerable they are evading capture from the place they committed their crimes, save your compassion for the victims of these criminals, and the ones who are about to become their next victims, .... vulnerable men FFS When did they have a prosecution that deemed them as criminals? The act of entering illegally makes them criminals. The fact we have agreed in the convention that no prosecutions will take place on the basis of that illegal entry does not make it any less of a criminal act. As asylum seekers their obligation is to follow all instructions and obey all laws as the host country directs, if they do not then they are supposed to lose their right to claim but that does not seem to be enforced. |
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Post by vlk on Oct 26, 2024 18:31:38 GMT
At the same time there are a lot of stories of people moving out of the UK in droves. People say that the UK has become a miserable and joyless country. No matter which shower of wankers is in power.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 26, 2024 21:25:34 GMT
At the same time there are a lot of stories of people moving out of the UK in droves. People say that the UK has become a miserable and joyless country. No matter which shower of wankers is in power. Which is true - there are record numbers of rich taxpayers fleeing. This did start under the Tories who thought they could spend 14 years with the highest levels of taxation and Public Spending since WW2 and then get away with it - the core Tory vote at the election thought different. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 27, 2024 7:48:50 GMT
When did they have a prosecution that deemed them as criminals? The act of entering illegally makes them criminals. The fact we have agreed in the convention that no prosecutions will take place on the basis of that illegal entry does not make it any less of a criminal act. As asylum seekers their obligation is to follow all instructions and obey all laws as the host country directs, if they do not then they are supposed to lose their right to claim but that does not seem to be enforced. True asylum seekers are not criminals, no matter which way one looks at them. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2024 8:03:39 GMT
The act of entering illegally makes them criminals. The fact we have agreed in the convention that no prosecutions will take place on the basis of that illegal entry does not make it any less of a criminal act. As asylum seekers their obligation is to follow all instructions and obey all laws as the host country directs, if they do not then they are supposed to lose their right to claim but that does not seem to be enforced. True asylum seekers are not criminals, no matter which way one looks at them. Who said those who are fleeing for their lives and come into the UK via the proper channels are criminals? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 27, 2024 8:04:27 GMT
At the same time there are a lot of stories of people moving out of the UK in droves. People say that the UK has become a miserable and joyless country. No matter which shower of wankers is in power. Which is true - there are record numbers of rich taxpayers fleeing. This did start under the Tories who thought they could spend 14 years with the highest levels of taxation and Public Spending since WW2 and then get away with it - the core Tory vote at the election thought different. The bottom fifth own 0.5% of wealth, 9% of the UK’s income. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 27, 2024 8:07:08 GMT
True asylum seekers are not criminals, no matter which way one looks at them. Who said those who are fleeing for their lives and come into the UK via the proper channels are criminals? People fleeing for their lives are not expected to apply for asylum first. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2024 8:07:22 GMT
Which is true - there are record numbers of rich taxpayers fleeing. This did start under the Tories who thought they could spend 14 years with the highest levels of taxation and Public Spending since WW2 and then get away with it - the core Tory vote at the election thought different. The bottom fifth own 0.5% of wealth, 9% of the UK’s income. Of course they do - that is why they are in the bottom.. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2024 8:10:36 GMT
Who said those who are fleeing for their lives and come into the UK via the proper channels are criminals? People fleeing for their lives are not expected to apply for asylum first. But they are expected to turn up on rubber boats I suppose. |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 27, 2024 8:37:47 GMT
The act of entering illegally makes them criminals. The fact we have agreed in the convention that no prosecutions will take place on the basis of that illegal entry does not make it any less of a criminal act. As asylum seekers their obligation is to follow all instructions and obey all laws as the host country directs, if they do not then they are supposed to lose their right to claim but that does not seem to be enforced. True asylum seekers are not criminals, no matter which way one looks at them. Anyone entering the UK without leave to do so is committing a criminal offence, that is not absolved by claiming asylum, all that is agreed in the convention is that it should not be prosecuted. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 27, 2024 8:45:31 GMT
Who said those who are fleeing for their lives and come into the UK via the proper channels are criminals? People fleeing for their lives are not expected to apply for asylum first. All very sad but do we need goat herders? If we and Europe are to remain safe it’d be worth spending the money to send them to a country that needs or doesn’t mind goat herders that or set up safe havens. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 27, 2024 10:06:58 GMT
The act of entering illegally makes them criminals. The fact we have agreed in the convention that no prosecutions will take place on the basis of that illegal entry does not make it any less of a criminal act. As asylum seekers their obligation is to follow all instructions and obey all laws as the host country directs, if they do not then they are supposed to lose their right to claim but that does not seem to be enforced. True asylum seekers are not criminals, no matter which way one looks at them. If they commit criminal acts then by definition they are criminals . Colluding with criminal people trafficking gangs is a criminal offence. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 28, 2024 9:20:32 GMT
They are all human beings and need to be treated with respect, even if they have paid criminal gangs to get here. These people are vulnerable and need our protection from the gendarmes who were about to beat them up on the beach near Le Touquet, where some rich Brits pop over for luncheon on their private planes. We all need to learn to show more compassion and give more of our taxes to help these innocent, vulnerable men. Oh, and a few women. I have worked in France, Belgium, and Italy Not been there on holiday WORKED there. At no time did I feel oppressed, in fear for what I believed, was, said, did ... None of these scum, who are invading us, should be given anything except a hand back to those they fear. That way they'll register in the safe countries they are already in That way, they can even come here legally, albeit only if they are the high earning doctors dentists etc the lefty barmies claim them to be while their daughters are being raped by them Of course, no other country allows as many in as we do. That's why they come here. Sink the boats the moment they have five feet of french water under them. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 28, 2024 9:27:40 GMT
Every person 'fleeing' France to claim asylum in the UK is a fraud
Every single one of them is committing fraud
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