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Post by Totheleft on Oct 18, 2024 2:23:18 GMT
lowest rates of imprisonment and at least seven times the rate of British citizens at 14.27 per 100,000 of the population.
Germany had the fewest, at 4.68 per 10,000 (one in 2,000), followed by Italy (4.96), India (6.24), Greece (6.36), US (7.27), Sri Lanka (8.17), France (8.64) and China (9.39).
The telegraph figures of those immigrant in prision also there figures out there that some immigrants obtain Higher or equal to the the British in Finance or Education .
would you support a points basseted immigration control.
please note this thread is about immigration not British ethnic minorities
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2024 6:42:15 GMT
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 18, 2024 7:11:04 GMT
strange posters on here claim we have open boarders |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 18, 2024 7:17:30 GMT
We already have a points based system.
Unfortunately illegal immigrants who are in violation of it are not being deported.
And lefties are supporting illegal immigrants wrongly assigning refugee status to criminals who deliberately get rid of their paperwork, such as their passport.
Lefties are trying to put illegal immigrants in with the general population.
Drug dealing and pimping is on the rise. We should be prosecuting criminals.
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2024 7:21:44 GMT
strange posters on here claim we have open boarders Its a figure of speech though lefty , sarcasm , to mock the lack of control of mass immigration over the last 20 years by both main parties in power. Not to be taken literally.... |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2024 7:21:57 GMT
strange posters on here claim we have open boarders If you are an illegal you are not using the points based immigration scheme - the clue is in the name. |
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 18, 2024 7:30:43 GMT
strange posters on here claim we have open boarders If you are an illegal you are not using the points based immigration scheme - the clue is in the name. Not talking about illegal immigration |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 18, 2024 8:34:00 GMT
But illegal immigration is still immigration, smarter immigration would be to stop it, to send the smugglers packing.
We have enough sovereign territory that's not so attractive to put illegal immigrants on.
Build toilet blocks, shower blocks and sewerage processing facilities on the South Sandwich islands and tented camps.
Every convicted people smuggler would go there and spend the rest of their lives there living off of rations.
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 18, 2024 8:38:23 GMT
We already have a points based system. Unfortunately illegal immigrants who are in violation of it are not being deported. And lefties are supporting illegal immigrants wrongly assigning refugee status to criminals who deliberately get rid of their paperwork, such as their passport. Lefties are trying to put illegal immigrants in with the general population. Drug dealing and pimping is on the rise. We should be prosecuting criminals. vinny your the one often saying we need a points based system. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 18, 2024 8:40:30 GMT
We now have a points based system, and have done since we left the EU.
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Post by Orac on Oct 18, 2024 8:59:10 GMT
We now have a points based system, and have done since we left the EU. A 'points based system' doesn't mean anything at all. What is needed is dramatic reductions in immigration |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 18, 2024 9:22:10 GMT
That's another matter entirely, you're talking about a quota.
Points goes on the skills, financial means, and lack of a criminal record of those economic migrants who do come.
We would need to keep that method.
A quota for economic migration sounds sensible enough, but how many? 40k per year?
And what skills would need prioritising amongst those who did come?
Quotas for economic migration are not relevant to asylum processing.
Illegal economic migrants try to misuse the asylum system.
Stopping that from happening is a social and moral priority.
People are dying because of people smugglers.
Deport convicted people smugglers to somewhere unpleasant, but British controlled.
South Sandwich islands. ECHR can't stop us doing that.
Build human rights compliant prisons there.
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Post by Orac on Oct 18, 2024 9:34:35 GMT
That's another matter entirely, you're talking about a quota. Points goes on the skills, financial means, and lack of a criminal record of those economic migrants who do come. We would need to keep that method. A quota for economic migration sounds sensible enough, but how many? 40k per year? And what skills would need prioritising amongst those who did come? Quotas for economic migration are not relevant to asylum processing. Illegal economic migrants try to misuse the asylum system. Stopping that from happening is a social and moral priority. People are dying because of people smugglers. Deport convicted people smugglers to somewhere unpleasant, but British controlled. South Sandwich islands. ECHR can't stop us doing that. Build human rights compliant prisons there. The whole discussion is (imho) equivalent to 'moving the deckchairs about' on a sinking ship A points based system is irrelevant because the government apparatus tasked with the administration wont implement it dispassionately (it's been hijacked). People who can't speak English are passing the 'points based system' The type of quota you outline is also irrelevant because any reduction in legal immigration can be easily made up for by encouraging more people to arrive illegally What is needed is an 'across the board' quota ie you can have as many asylum seekers as you want as a part of a total quota that includes asylum seekers and immigration. After this happens, the Uk public can petition to have this number set at something sensible like about 1000 How to get from here to there is a another matter. It will take balls Nothing you said is wrong btw |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 18, 2024 10:08:56 GMT
We now have a points based system, and have done since we left the EU. The UK has had a points-based system since 2008. The difference between the present one and the one introduced by NuLabor is that there is now no annual cap on the number of employment visas than can be issued.
I meant to add also another important difference is the removal of the resident labour market test which was intended to make sure that job vacancies were advertised to local residents before hiring an overseas worker.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 18, 2024 14:09:32 GMT
lowest rates of imprisonment and at least seven times the rate of British citizens at 14.27 per 100,000 of the population. Germany had the fewest, at 4.68 per 10,000 (one in 2,000), followed by Italy (4.96), India (6.24), Greece (6.36), US (7.27), Sri Lanka (8.17), France (8.64) and China (9.39). The telegraph figures of those immigrant in prision also there figures out there that some immigrants obtain Higher or equal to the the British in Finance or Education . would you support a points basseted immigration control. please note this thread is about immigration not British ethnic minorities No, I think we need a quota system per country. We base the numbers on how useful that country's immigration would be to us. The number allowed for each country should be dynamic. So if a country misbehaves we drop their quota and this would mean we would send some of them back, and if say there was a time say when we needed a large number from a different country to build a new HS rail then we can up the number by the addition amount and then drop it back as the job is complete. No one coming to the country nor their offspring would be allowed to carry a British passport. their stay and their family's stay in Britain should always be revocable. In other words we should discriminate between a British person and a foreign person. |
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