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Post by piglet on Oct 14, 2024 10:45:20 GMT
As being white is now criminal , its time us whites did the same as black people, which is exclusion. All white adverts, police associations, separate canteens, even football clubs. Make being anglo saxon a card for entry. Even in employment, have all white work forces with adverts stating black people not allowed.
It wont happen will it, all sort of trouble will ensue, but it is a measure of how white people are abused, and the government says its ok. Maybe in private members clubs we could have rules like drugs, sex, crime is not allowed, this is England.
Say please thankyou and sorry, even if its not your fault. Tea is at four o clock, with scones. Supporting all English British teams is expected, if not you will be asked to leave and membership recinded. Swearing will be expreessed such, the rising of an eyebrow, or glasses being taken off.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 14, 2024 11:11:09 GMT
What you propose is easily achieved by (a) repealing the Equality Act or (b) removing one or more specific 'protected characteristics' - age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex or sexual orientation - from the scope of the Act.
All it takes is a 'stroke of the pen', and the political will to do it.
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Post by piglet on Oct 14, 2024 11:14:45 GMT
Sounds good to me, Mr Farage.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 14, 2024 11:19:45 GMT
Mr Farage's 'Contract with You' commits Reform to replace the Equality Act, but he doesn't say what with.
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Post by piglet on Oct 14, 2024 11:29:14 GMT
How about common sense.? Why have anything?, anti white racism is as pernicios, allowed under current rules.
With this accepted approach. Positive discrimination.......against white people. DISGUSTING. Racism is ok under these assholes.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 14, 2024 11:38:20 GMT
Anti white is being sold as equality. Any argument against anti whiteness or white race baiting will be met by accusations of racism. Ironic really.
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Post by piglet on Oct 15, 2024 10:31:31 GMT
And we tolerate it. Amazing. Recently a black politician on attending a bash in the US said it was disgustingly white, how disgusting is that. Any idiot can see that exercising racism cannot be used to defeat it, and by expressing it, shows how low level intelligence exists from those people. Im talking about racists not black people.
My experience of racism is that it is only expressed in extremis, adults dont, that there has been for political ends an hysterical reaction to it. If racism existed, wouldnt we now be seeing race wars on the streets of Sparkhill, Sparkbrook, and Oldham? And dozens of other black communities.
There are no race wars, but the black community keep trying with their rhetoric, the government blames thee British for something that does not exist. And that black comedian from Dudley still pokes the bear, he says britain is disgustingly white.
Its a white country asshole.
The psychology is interesting, they, black people protesteth too much. That deep down, they wished they were white, like Michael Jackson, and that they are ashamed. Equality will never happen in their eyees, because the diffeerence is to great, its not about privelage, money or diversity, its about the colour of their skin, which isnt white, theres no fixing that. Micheal Jackson tried. The thing that will fix it is to know that being black isnt inferiour, not in white peoples mind, but in theirs.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 15, 2024 18:45:49 GMT
How about common sense.? Why have anything?, anti white racism is as pernicios, allowed under current rules. With this accepted approach. Positive discrimination.......against white people. DISGUSTING. Racism is ok under these assholes. Common sense and woke are very uneasy bedfellows. People who are afflicted with woke, and it is an affliction, belive feelings are more important than the truth and in particular, their feelings are more important than yours. And that's the start point. In other words, unless you're woke, you cant win. Which is why common sense and woke are very uneasy bedfellows. And it must be said, as far as someone who is afflicted with woke is concerned, this shouldn't need to be explained. If it does then you're a nasty racist far right sexist islamophobic nazi bigot who needs to be shouted down and cancelled.
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Post by Paulus de B on Oct 22, 2024 12:09:12 GMT
As being white is now criminal , its time us whites did the same as black people, which is exclusion. All white adverts, police associations, separate canteens, even football clubs. Make being anglo saxon a card for entry. Even in employment, have all white work forces with adverts stating black people not allowed. It wont happen will it, all sort of trouble will ensue, but it is a measure of how white people are abused, and the government says its ok. Maybe in private members clubs we could have rules like drugs, sex, crime is not allowed, this is England. Say please thankyou and sorry, even if its not your fault. Tea is at four o clock, with scones. Supporting all English British teams is expected, if not you will be asked to leave and membership recinded. Swearing will be expreessed such, the rising of an eyebrow, or glasses being taken off. I don't suppose your modest proposal was meant too seriously, but just in case it was: Separateness (in Afrikaans, apartheid) has attractions, but among its most obvious weaknesses were (1) other times that it has been tried, the obvious lack of gelijkheid (equality), (2) the difficulty of defining a person's race, and (3) the fact that racial and cultural distinctions don't correspond closely enough to make it anything other than unfair and inefficient for the purpose that you propose. In Britain's case, too, we should add (4) the fact that we have one economy, and breaking up the workforce and the market would turn it upside down and inside out, and (5) non-white people are generally more conservative than us - we would be separating off the people who believe in marriage and the family from tha 'woke' self-centred hedonists, leaving a dividing line with you and me, at least, on the wrong side of it, and following from that, (6) the fact that non-white people have children, and the white economy on its own is simply and obviously doomed. Other than that...
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 22, 2024 14:31:34 GMT
Well somebody has to fly the flag for ethno-nationalism so I'll give it a go: Separateness (in Afrikaans, apartheid) has attractions, but among its most obvious weaknesses were
(1) other times that it has been tried, the obvious lack of gelijkheid (equality),I'd hazard a guess that racial equality would not have been high on the list of desirable outcomes for promoters of earlier Apartheid schemes
(2) the difficulty of defining a person's race, and
Again this has never been a show-stopper 'in the past' .
(3) the fact that racial and cultural distinctions don't correspond closely enough to make it anything other than unfair and inefficient for the purpose that you propose.Fairness wouldn't appear to enter into the case for ethno-nationalism.
In Britain's case, too, we should add (4) the fact that we have one economy, and breaking up the workforce and the market would turn it upside down and inside out, and
Probably not. The non-white population - at least the part of it in gainful employment - tends to be clustered in distinct economic sectors: retail, catering, healthcare, road transport etc.
(5) non-white people are generally more conservative than us - we would be separating off the people who believe in marriage and the family from tha 'woke' self-centred hedonists, leaving a dividing line with you and me, at least, on the wrong side of it, and following from that,
That being the case, there could be an argument for a third ethnostate - a 'rainbow nation' in which (white) seekers of vibrant enrichment can cohabit with non-whites who don't care for other non-whites (Hindus and Muslims come to mind).
(6) the fact that non-white people have children, and the white economy on its own is simply and obviously doomed.
Surely this hoary old canard was well and truly scuppered by David Coleman's classic paper 'Replacement Migration', or why everyone's going to have to live in Korea. A fable for our times from the United Nations.
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Post by Paulus de B on Oct 25, 2024 12:33:22 GMT
Well, fair attempt, Dan. racial equality would not have been high on the list of desirable outcomes for promoters of earlier Apartheid schemes... Fairness wouldn't appear to enter into the case for ethno-nationalism.
'Racial equality' sounds like quite a slippery thing to define. Equality of opportunity - fairness - irrespective of race, on the other hand, is at least as intrinsic to most people's preferred view of Britishness as racial purity. Or more so, I would imagine. Again [difficulty of determining race] has never been a show-stopper 'in the past'It's impossible to avoid, and impossible to do. A huge number of people are of mixed race - including most of those defined as 'black'. And there are white, black, Asian, and whatever else people self-identifying partly or in some contexts as British and at other times identifying with their ancestral homeland. The mess and confusion would certainly stop the show in Britain. The non-white population - at least the part of it in gainful employment - tends to be clustered in distinct economic sectors: retail, catering, healthcare, road transport etc.The devil is in the detail. 'Tends to be' still leaves the economy taking a hit. a third ethnostate - a 'rainbow nation' in which (white) seekers of vibrant enrichment can cohabit with non-whites who don't care for other non-whites (Hindus and Muslims come to mind).Now you're thinking outside the box. Throw in a fourth ethnostate for the ditherering bewildered fence-sitters and I could be persuaded. Surely this hoary old canard was well and truly scuppered by David Coleman's classic paper 'Replacement Migration', or why everyone's going to have to live in Korea. A fable for our times from the United Nations.Replacement migration probably isn't the solution to any problems - certainly not a long-term solution, anyway - but piglet's white-only institutions, clubs etc are going to fill up pretty quickly with crusty old fogies. Still, 'tain't going to happen; we have to muddle through together somehow. I'm certainly a racist, identifying more closely with the race and culture that I grew up in, and mourning its diminution, but racial purity is a chimera in the modern world, and I believe that efforts to achieve it would bring out the worst in us.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 25, 2024 14:35:25 GMT
Thank you for the considered response, you make some obvious points that emphasise the challenges ahead. As for muddling through, yes I agree that is traditionally the default approach amongst the GBP, as in 'Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way', however it seems more likely that future events and developments may result in matters being taken out of their hands. Much will depend on (a) whether the current strategy of betting the farm on 'integration and acculturation' proves to have been a sound investment, and (b) the extent to which political control comes to rest with the 'new' population as the demographic transformation proceeds. I think we can learn much from studying other formerly 'white' societies which have gone though or are facing similar transformation. California in particular is a very interesting case, one where the 'Anglo' population became just another ethnic minority over twenty years ago. There was little movement in the political landscape for quite a number of years since the incumbent Anglo politicians came to understand that in order to remain office they had to attend to the needs and wishes of their minority constituents even, if necessary, assigning them a higher priority than their erstwhile Anglo constituents. Although Britain is still a long way behind California from the perspective of demographic replacement we can already see signs of a similar political mindset developing here. California's population led its political transformation since it was not until 2017 that Anglos became a minority in the state legislature. One of the very new initiatives taken by the 'ethnic' legislature was to declare California a 'sanctuary' state which would not cooperate with the federal authorities on immigration matters. In 2021 the legislature approved a new ordinance requiring all public schools in the state to provide courses in 'ethnic studies'. We can consider this as 'The Shape of Things to Come' in California and other states that have already, or soon will attain 'majority minority' status. As we watch all this unfolding the question becomes: How likely is it that the UK will follow California's lead, and how will the host population respond? One important distinction concerns the possibility of 'white flight'. That's still relatively easy in California given the vast territories in the West that offer scope for a 'retreat in depth', but I don't believe that presents a viable option for the bulk of the UK's population without the skills to emigrate to Australia or Canada, or the financial means to secure a bolt-hole elsewhere. I won't mention the B-word again, but that has had the effect of severely limiting the opportunities for 'escape' elsewhere in Europe.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 1:37:53 GMT
Mr Farage's 'Contract with You' commits Reform to replace the Equality Act, but he doesn't say what with. Eric Pickles had the right idea. For every new act of parliament they need to find two to repeal.
It's a form of negative feedback. The more politicians want to change things the more their power is cut away, and the purpose is to teach them to stop fucking about with things all the time. Take a holiday.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 26, 2024 2:19:30 GMT
Mr Farage's 'Contract with You' commits Reform to replace the Equality Act, but he doesn't say what with. The Equality Act needs repealing, not replacing.
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