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Post by sheepy on Dec 7, 2022 21:00:09 GMT
Future Elections with guesstimate polls and who is popular and who isn't. There is only one poll when the votes have been counted. That is correct. And why Scottish Labour has 1 MP. Who rants what is best for the Scots. Yet I was just reading the faithful trotting out the same old lies and actually believe they are telling the truth, so I guess they are on another suicide mission like they were in Scotland. |
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Post by morayloon on Dec 7, 2022 22:05:21 GMT
Nigel has a huge Scottish following on his GB News shows and phone ins, he is very popular throughout Scotland and his participation in Scottish Politics will be well worth watching. You're taking the piss! You just have to look at Elections just before and after Euro Elections: In 2004 UKIP achieved 6.7% of the Scottish Euro vote. But in 2003 only 0.6% of the Scottish electorate voted for them. In 2009 5.2% voted UKIP But in 2007 support was at 0.4% (Even their Right Wing allies in the BNP beat them) and in 2010 it was 0.7% In 2014 UKIP gained 10.5%. In 2015 support was at 0.7% In 2019 14.8% voted for Brexit but in that year's GE only 0.5% of Scots voted for them. The Europhobes turned out for Euro Elections in sufficient numbers to inflate their share of the vote. When it comes to General Elections when more people vote, their share dropped dramatically. Scotland always lagged behind rUK in support for Right Wing parties like UKIP, Brexit or Reform. Even the Tories have slipped badly since their 1955 win |
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Post by borchester on Dec 7, 2022 22:06:38 GMT
That is correct. And why Scottish Labour, sorry Tartan Tory, has 1 MP. Who rants what is best for the Scots. That, like Jaydee and the SNP, was in the past
Labour and Reform are the parties of the future.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 8, 2022 9:22:48 GMT
That, like Jaydee and the SNP, was in the past
Labour and Reform are the parties of the future.
Ah Botchy. The one line wonder. That is why Scottish Labour and Tory are expected to be wiped out. Well Scottish Labour the Tartan Tory's have been wiped out. As they rant they know what is best for Scotland. They are in the days of the past. Flynn 34 Black 28. The days of the wankers polluting the old Scottish Office are gone. The days of the feeble 50 Labour MPs sitting waiting on instruction from England, and the branch office are gone. As English Labour support the Tory Brexit. Now the Scottish Tory Branch office is about to be closed. And for you info. Starmer has sacrificed Scottish Labour at the expense of the English Red wall. And that red wall in the north of England are now wishing they voted to remain in the EU. You may very well be correct that Labour will win in England. But it will not have any Scottish Labour MPs. And I have no doubt Farage and the Fascist will be wheeled out. Spewing more hatred in hate filled England. And appearing on Question time more times than anyone apart from Fiona Bruce. While the third largest politcal party in the UK is ignored. Just as in Westminster. |
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Post by jaydee on Dec 8, 2022 9:48:14 GMT
That is correct. And why Scottish Labour has 1 MP. Who rants what is best for the Scots. Yet I was just reading the faithful trotting out the same old lies and actually believe they are telling the truth, so I guess they are on another suicide mission like they were in Scotland. Yes indeed. D.Ross lying though his teeth. One issue. A ferry cock up. As he lies through his teeth he is going to be the next FM. I may be wrong. But I do not think one Tory has won on the FPTP vote. They are all second hand Joes on the list. One day he might even be a politician. As he accepted gangsters money. And Sarwar the Scottish Labour leader of the tartan Tory's with his one issue the NHS that outstrips bankrupt England on all fronts. Totally ignorant to the fact, that the Barnett consequential only apply when bankrupt England needs more money. As he rants he will not talk to the SNP. Some 40% of his voters want Scotland to go its merry way. And if you care to read the second link. You will see the waffle and drivel at a attempt to deny. Despite the fact and evidence. Wiped out apart from one MP. But the Tartan Tory's go into coalition with the Tory's in the local authority front. Then Sarwar, like the Lib Dems wonders why his party has been wiped out on the UK front. Labours branch office in Scotland is now a telephone kiosk. thehighlandtimes.com/douglas-ross-must-hand-back-tainted-cash/theferret.scot/40-per-cent-scottish-labour-members-independence/ |
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Post by om15 on Dec 8, 2022 13:21:39 GMT
That link is over two years old, it is no use dredging around old archive material vainly trying to prove your point, (whatever that might be). The SNP are now being rejected by all right thinking people, only the most myopic and brainwashed bigots continue to ignore all the evidence of corruption, incompetence, dishonesty and deceit that is now obvious to all.
It is inevitable that disenchanted voters may turn to Labour, whatever someone we have never heard of might have thought in September 2020.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 8, 2022 14:34:47 GMT
That link is over two years old, it is no use dredging around old archive material vainly trying to prove your point, (whatever that might be). The SNP are now being rejected by all right thinking people, only the most myopic and brainwashed bigots continue to ignore all the evidence of corruption, incompetence, dishonesty and deceit that is now obvious to all. It is inevitable that disenchanted voters may turn to Labour, whatever someone we have never heard of might have thought in September 2020. Yes I know it is over two years old. And nothing has changed. Just like my copy and paste i use to reply to your circular drivel. And of course as you now rant the SNP are rejected by all right thinking people. But then your version of right thinking and mine. Are shall we say different As you ignore the fact they hold some 50 of the Scottish seats in Westminster, are the Scottish Government and hold most Scottish local authorities and councillors. Have about wiped out all Unionist parties in Scotland, at a UK level. . Not to mention at one political level or another around 100% of all Scottish voters, not all clearly, at local, Scottish or National voting level, voted for the SNP at one point or another. And as the present polls suggest and I accept they change. But have not done for years. Will this time wipe out all Scottish Unionist party's in Westminster. So perhaps in your own silly Englishman Jock hating way. Explain how you arrived at the conclusion. the SNP are now being rejected by all right thinking people. I take it you posses the ability to count. In terms of brainwashing. Would you care to give a example of brainwashing as you have just expertly unknowingly carried out. And you still have not told me what Englsih law, one will do, that affects England only |
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Post by borchester on Dec 8, 2022 23:22:28 GMT
That link is over two years old, it is no use dredging around old archive material vainly trying to prove your point, (whatever that might be). The SNP are now being rejected by all right thinking people, only the most myopic and brainwashed bigots continue to ignore all the evidence of corruption, incompetence, dishonesty and deceit that is now obvious to all. It is inevitable that disenchanted voters may turn to Labour, whatever someone we have never heard of might have thought in September 2020. Yes I know it is over two years old. I bet you don't
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Post by thomas on Dec 9, 2022 8:12:11 GMT
That link is over two years old, it is no use dredging around old archive material vainly trying to prove your point, (whatever that might be). The SNP are now being rejected by all right thinking people, only the most myopic and brainwashed bigots continue to ignore all the evidence of corruption, incompetence, dishonesty and deceit that is now obvious to all. It is inevitable that disenchanted voters may turn to Labour, whatever someone we have never heard of might have thought in September 2020. I have to say Om that you do come across as extremely desperate and living in cloud cuckoo land. As to your original link ,im sure thats from the subsample as moray pointed out of 121 people that unionists were running around screaming about how the earth had moved much to everyones laughter.
Refrorm uk arent on 11 % in scotland. You are deluded if you think that. Ukip/BNP/Brexit party etc have never ever been more than right wing pressure groups voted for by english retirees in scotland. I dont think much more time needs to be given to them in a post as they arent even worth discussing amongst anyone with any credibility , and if you think they are , then i rest my case.
I have been hearing since 2007 , thats 15 years now , how disenchanted voters will return to labour. While political fortunes of parties will inevitbaly rise and fall , i keep trying to educate you about the political landscape in scotland.
You have two main factions , unionism and nationalism , similar to but not quite the same as northern ireland. Neither of either side will vote in large numbers for the other.
As to the latest polls , heres the last one i saw...
Should Scotland be an independent country? (Ipsos UK / STV, 28th November - 5th December 2022)
Yes 56% (+6)
No 44% (-6)
Scottish voting intentions for the next UK general election:
SNP 51% (+7)
Labour 25% (+2)
Conservatives 13% (-6)
Liberal Democrats 6% (-4)
Greens 3% (-)
Seats projection: SNP 58 (+10), Labour 1 (-), Conservatives 0 (-6), Liberal Democrats 0 (-4)
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Post by jaydee on Dec 9, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
Yes I know it is over two years old. I bet you don't
Or at least didn't until om15 pointed it out. Ah Botchy. The one line wonder who wipes his rectum with newspaper. Is that how your eyes were glazed. I bet I did know. . OM15 has had it since it came out, on the days of the old forum. And some of the copy and pastes he gets are over 5 years old. Nothing has changed. I bet you did not even know the sleaze bag tory's operate in Scotland. And D.Ross did not even know he had forgot he had £30,000 lying around that he forgot to declare. How many people do you know who had £30 grand hanging about that they forgot. Is there any reason why you come on the Scottish forum apart from adding nothing but one line wonder undiluted drivel. And always wrong. |
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Post by om15 on Dec 9, 2022 13:14:00 GMT
Tommo, if there is a genuine belief that the SNP will attract 51% of the vote, and that 56% of Scots will vote for separation we must ask ourselves why Sturgeon is not pushing ahead with separation. Is it either she doesn't believe the figures, or she is happy with the status quo as she and her virtual husband can milk the funds for a little longer.
If you believe the figures you need to dump Sturgeon and get someone in who will drive a new Separation Referendum, which we can now refer to as Seppo 1.
Jaydee, it is no use getting irritable when others also notice that your links are out of date bunkum written by people no one has heard of, please try to be more selective and only posts links which are relevant and have a degree of accuracy.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 9, 2022 16:07:36 GMT
Tommo, if there is a genuine belief that the SNP will attract 51% of the vote, and that 56% of Scots will vote for separation we must ask ourselves why Sturgeon is not pushing ahead with separation. Is it either she doesn't believe the figures, or she is happy with the status quo as she and her virtual husband can milk the funds for a little longer. If you believe the figures you need to dump Sturgeon and get someone in who will drive a new Separation Referendum, which we can now refer to as Seppo 1. Jaydee, it is no use getting irritable when others also notice that your links are out of date bunkum written by people no one has heard of, please try to be more selective and only posts links which are relevant and have a degree of accuracy. Matey it does not matter one jot when posting with your garbage. Even if it is ten years out of date. As you continually post the garbage about the Jocks having to join the Euro, from nearly 10 years ago. To your drivel about a ferry cock up from 5 years ago, to how the FM stole money from around the same time. And a million others. All have not changed. As you now rant garbage the SNP are finished. Despite the fact they have wiped Britnat Unionist of the face of the map and the polls suggest they will be wiped of in total at the next GE. . As you still rant utter fanny In the case pf separation. From he Supreme Court finding. It is now the policy to use the next GE as Defacto. As you post more pish about separation. Why the FM does not go about holding a referendum on the day specified, along with the defacto vote defies the hell out of me. Unlike you till find out. I keep my gob shut. What does it take to get through that skull. As you insist on being Mr Stupid I will remind you on my next copy and paste on on the dates of the circular garbage you post how old it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 16:00:39 GMT
Tommo, if there is a genuine belief that the SNP will attract 51% of the vote, and that 56% of Scots will vote for separation we must ask ourselves why Sturgeon is not pushing ahead with separation. Is it either she doesn't believe the figures, or she is happy with the status quo as she and her virtual husband can milk the funds for a little longer.If you believe the figures you need to dump Sturgeon and get someone in who will drive a new Separation Referendum, which we can now refer to as Seppo 1. Jaydee, it is no use getting irritable when others also notice that your links are out of date bunkum written by people no one has heard of, please try to be more selective and only posts links which are relevant and have a degree of accuracy. I think you hit the nail on the head. |
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Post by borchester on Dec 10, 2022 16:30:45 GMT
Tommo, if there is a genuine belief that the SNP will attract 51% of the vote, and that 56% of Scots will vote for separation we must ask ourselves why Sturgeon is not pushing ahead with separation. Is it either she doesn't believe the figures, or she is happy with the status quo as she and her virtual husband can milk the funds for a little longer.If you believe the figures you need to dump Sturgeon and get someone in who will drive a new Separation Referendum, which we can now refer to as Seppo 1. Jaydee, it is no use getting irritable when others also notice that your links are out of date bunkum written by people no one has heard of, please try to be more selective and only posts links which are relevant and have a degree of accuracy. I think you hit the nail on the head. I agree.
If the Nats were doing so well then Ms Sturgeon would say sod the Supreme Court, and go full steam ahead for Indy2. But they ain't, so she won't
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 17:05:51 GMT
I think you hit the nail on the head. I agree.
If the Nats were doing so well then Ms Sturgeon would say sod the Supreme Court, and go full steam ahead for Indy2. But they ain't, so she won't
The court case was a waste of money and served only one purpose, which is to get more attention and play the victim to an international audience. The outcome was already known. I get the feeling that many in divided Scotland feel the same way about the SNP as many of the decent folk in England do, and I would argue that they'd want to stick with the UK the most.
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