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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:11:21 GMT
The only thing the evidence shows is that you don’t understand what a Christian name is.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 9:12:19 GMT
And those dismiss the context, even more so. Perhaps they do or perhaps they don’t. I don’t really know because I don’t understand your point. What I do know is that anyone whose first thought, when hearing about this poor woman’s terrible ordeal, is to think “ illegal immigrant” is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt Personally I think that anyone defending any potential 'status' of a rapist who raped a 5' , 6.5 stone very vulnerable woman to death is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt (just read a media report of trial and there was apparently clear cctv film of his murder of this poor woman on the park bench played in court) |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 9:16:59 GMT
How do you know that he has a Christian name? Are you assuming that he is a Christian? I obviously did understand what Jonksy meant by Christian name and I needed no explanation. The evidence says otherwise. The only thing the evidence shows is that you don’t understand what a Christian name is. Only that I was the one who explained it to you. Are you just going to continue to post lies to try and dig yourself out of your hole? It maybe easier for you to learn how to be honest, at least once, instead of objecting to the honesty from others, including the honesty displayed by the OP. |
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:17:31 GMT
Perhaps they do or perhaps they don’t. I don’t really know because I don’t understand your point. What I do know is that anyone whose first thought, when hearing about this poor woman’s terrible ordeal, is to think “ illegal immigrant” is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt Personally I think that anyone defending any potential 'status' of a rapist who raped a 5' , 6.5 stone very vulnerable woman to death is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt (just read a media report of trial and there was apparently clear cctv film of his murder of this poor woman on the park bench played in court) Yes, I think that we all know that there is cctv evidence and no-one is defending his potential status. |
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:20:48 GMT
The evidence says otherwise. The only thing the evidence shows is that you don’t understand what a Christian name is. Only that I was the one who explained it to you. Are you just going to continue to post lies to try and dig yourself out of your hole? It maybe easier for you to learn how to be honest, at least once, instead of objecting to the honesty from others, including the honesty displayed by the OP. You have not explained what a Christian name is and you don’t need to because I understand that already - although you apparently don’t. You should take your own advice rather than dispense it where it is not needed. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 9:21:41 GMT
Personally I think that anyone defending any potential 'status' of a rapist who raped a 5' , 6.5 stone very vulnerable woman to death is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt (just read a media report of trial and there was apparently clear cctv film of his murder of this poor woman on the park bench played in court) Yes, I think that we all know that there is cctv evidence and no-one is defending his potential status. Eh? You've spent all of your time on here attacking those on this thread doing just this. Your dishonesty is repugnant. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 9:22:16 GMT
Personally I think that anyone defending any potential 'status' of a rapist who raped a 5' , 6.5 stone very vulnerable woman to death is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt (just read a media report of trial and there was apparently clear cctv film of his murder of this poor woman on the park bench played in court) Yes, I think that we all know that there is cctv evidence and no-one is defending his potential status. You do , your post p1 And whether he was an immigrant or not, or whether this happened in London or not, is surely irrelevant too? |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 5, 2024 9:28:26 GMT
It might seem like a perfectly reasonable first thought if you are an anti-immigration obsessive, but that would only be because your obsession has fucked you up to the point where you no longer recognise what is reasonable and what is not. Anyone whose first thought was “ illegal immigrant”, anyone who thinks that is a perfectly reasonable first response, or anyone who sets up a thread on a forum such as this, ostensibly about the incident, but who fails to express a single word of sympathy for the victim but just uses this horror incident as a pretext to have a go at illegal immigrants, left wing authorities, and Sadiq Khan, purely on the strength of the accused’s name and without anything else to go on, needs to have a good think about what their obsession has done to them. I repeat ..It is a perfectly reasonable first thought and to think otherwise is to be hamstrung by the delusion of owning the moral high ground. Faux outrage and virtue signalling only weakens your argument . ” Only beastly people think differently to me “ isn’t an argument . |
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:31:42 GMT
Yes, I think that we all know that there is cctv evidence and no-one is defending his potential status. Eh? You've spent all of your time on here attacking those on this thread doing just this. Your dishonesty is repugnant. You clearly can’t grasp what you are reading if you think that. Take your anti-immigrant blinkers off, have another go and see if you can work it out. Once you do , and assuming that you have some personal integrity, you can apologise to me for your false accusation of dishonesty. |
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:33:23 GMT
It might seem like a perfectly reasonable first thought if you are an anti-immigration obsessive, but that would only be because your obsession has fucked you up to the point where you no longer recognise what is reasonable and what is not. Anyone whose first thought was “ illegal immigrant”, anyone who thinks that is a perfectly reasonable first response, or anyone who sets up a thread on a forum such as this, ostensibly about the incident, but who fails to express a single word of sympathy for the victim but just uses this horror incident as a pretext to have a go at illegal immigrants, left wing authorities, and Sadiq Khan, purely on the strength of the accused’s name and without anything else to go on, needs to have a good think about what their obsession has done to them. I repeat ..It is a perfectly reasonable first thought and to think otherwise is to be hamstrung by the delusion of owning the moral high ground. Faux outrage and virtue signalling only weakens your argument . ” Only beastly people think differently to me “ isn’t an argument . And I repeat again that it might seem like a perfectly reasonable first thought to anti-immigration obsessives, but that would only be because their obsession has fucked them up to the point where they no longer recognise what is reasonable and what is not. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 9:36:09 GMT
Eh? You've spent all of your time on here attacking those on this thread doing just this. Your dishonesty is repugnant. You clearly can’t grasp what you are reading if you think that. Take your ant- immigrant blinkers off, have another go and see if you can get work it out. Once you do , and assuming that you have some personal integrity, you can apologise to me for your false accusation of dishonesty. You lack understanding of basic norms in this country and when that is pointed out to you you lie about it. You have spent most of the thread attacking other members for their honesty which is based on the information they have been given. You object to honesty, you post lies and you refuse to accept any responsibility for your shameless behaviour when exposed. You lost all arguments, all potential respect and all further attempts to be seen as genuine. You now lie about me being anti-immigrant when I have not given you any reason to accuse me of such a thing.
You are clearly not here for honest discussion.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 5, 2024 9:39:28 GMT
I repeat ..It is a perfectly reasonable first thought and to think otherwise is to be hamstrung by the delusion of owning the moral high ground. Faux outrage and virtue signalling only weakens your argument . ” Only beastly people think differently to me “ isn’t an argument . And I repeat again that it might seem like a perfectly reasonable first thought if you are an anti-immigration obsessive, but that would only be because your obsession has fucked you up to the point where you no longer recognise what is reasonable and what is not. You dont seem to realise how ridiculous your argument is . 1 Think about the victim “ poor thing “ then think ‘ I wonder what kind of person would do that “ = commendable 2 Wonder what kind of person would do that then think “ poor thing “ about the victim = contemptible. Its a risible subjective non argument . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2024 9:41:22 GMT
Personally I think that anyone defending any potential 'status' of a rapist who raped a 5' , 6.5 stone very vulnerable woman to death is worthy of nothing but our deepest contempt (just read a media report of trial and there was apparently clear cctv film of his murder of this poor woman on the park bench played in court) Yes, I think that we all know that there is cctv evidence and no-one is defending his potential status. Well, apart from you from your very first post. |
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:42:20 GMT
You clearly can’t grasp what you are reading if you think that. Take your ant- immigrant blinkers off, have another go and see if you can get work it out. Once you do , and assuming that you have some personal integrity, you can apologise to me for your false accusation of dishonesty. You lack understanding of basic norms in this country and when that is pointed out to you you lie about it. You have spent most of the thread attacking other members for their honesty which is based on the information they have been given. You object to honesty, you post lies and you refuse to accept any responsibility for your shameless behaviour when exposed. You lost all arguments, all potential respect and all further attempts to be seen as genuine. You now lie about me being anti-immigrant when I have not given you any reason to accuse me of such a thing.
You are clearly not here for honest discussion.
No I don’t -and no I don’t. If you want to have a discussion then you first have to grasp what I have said which is something that you have failed to do so far, despite it being repeatedly and clearly stated. You need to free your mind from any anti-immigration prejudices that it may carry and read what my words actually say rather than what those prejudices might be forcing you to think it is that I am saying. Maybe you are not up to that but that’s for you to decide. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2024 9:45:36 GMT
I repeat ..It is a perfectly reasonable first thought and to think otherwise is to be hamstrung by the delusion of owning the moral high ground. Faux outrage and virtue signalling only weakens your argument . ” Only beastly people think differently to me “ isn’t an argument . And I repeat again that it might seem like a perfectly reasonable first thought to anti-immigration obsessives, but that would only be because their obsession has fucked them up to the point where they no longer recognise what is reasonable and what is not. The irony.
No one's first thought was his immigration status (well, apart from yours obviously).
Everyone else was appalled by the crime and then considered the wholly unnecessary nature of it and the process that lead up to it.
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