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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 7:53:33 GMT
You can spot them by their ignorance. Christian name is commonly known as their first name in this country. It doesn't necessarily have any relevance to Christianity. Old habits... Surely the ignorance lies with those who fail to recognise that the majority in this country are not Christians and that the majority therefore do not have Christian names? No it doesn't. You're clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country, which has now been exposed.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 5, 2024 7:59:31 GMT
Note how the usual press sidesteps carefully around the assalients christion name which is "Mohamed" they just refer to him as "Lidow" if he were a white male we would be told how much his house is worth, his shoe size and how many sugars he takes in his morning cuppa.... How do you know that he has a Christian name? Are you assuming that he is a Christian? And how do you know that he is not a white male? Are you just assuming that to be the case because we have not been “told how much his house is worth, his shoe size and how many sugars he takes in his morning cuppa....”? First name then FFS.......
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 8:02:02 GMT
This sounds like a conspiracy theory and an attempt to advocate media censorship. You have only been drawn here to repeat your usual nonsense by the headline, it is half a story with enough holes to make you think whatever your mindset allows, so obviously for purely political reaction, which in fairness works every time. Stop lying. I got involved because of Happyjack's reaction to the OP. I understand antisemites advocate conspiracy theories and state controlled media censorship, but I do not. Not once have I ever told anyone not to accurately report on anything, and I have not seen anyone but people like you encourage such a thing.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 5, 2024 8:07:22 GMT
You have only been drawn here to repeat your usual nonsense by the headline, it is half a story with enough holes to make you think whatever your mindset allows, so obviously for purely political reaction, which in fairness works every time. Stop lying. I got involved because of Happyjack's reaction to the OP. I understand antisemites advocate conspiracy theories and state controlled media censorship, but I do not. Not once have I ever told anyone not to accurately report on anything, and I have not seen anyone but people like you encourage such a thing. I didn't lie you do to yourself constantly which in turn means lying to others, I just see you and it for what it is, there will be no higher moral high ground on this thread, screaming Muslims and antisemites save it for your Israel posts.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 8:12:16 GMT
Stop lying. I got involved because of Happyjack's reaction to the OP. I understand antisemites advocate conspiracy theories and state controlled media censorship, but I do not. Not once have I ever told anyone not to accurately report on anything, and I have not seen anyone but people like you encourage such a thing. I didn't lie you do to yourself constantly which in turn means lying to others, I just see you and it for what it is, there will be no higher moral high ground on this thread, screaming Muslims and antisemites save it for your Israel posts. I didn't mention Muslims. You're the one advocating state controlled censorship and relying on conspiracy theories and attempts to shut other people down, using lies and hypocritical reports. I understand there are people who rely on terrorists, rapists and killers, and that the Labour party are pushing for further state controlled media censorship. These things are being discussed by free-speech advocates, which I have no doubt you object to.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 5, 2024 8:14:14 GMT
I didn't lie you do to yourself constantly which in turn means lying to others, I just see you and it for what it is, there will be no higher moral high ground on this thread, screaming Muslims and antisemites save it for your Israel posts. I didn't mention Muslims. You're the one advocating state controlled censorship and relying on conspiracy theories and attempts to shut other people down, using lies and hypocritical reports. I bet you did, when you were ranting about grooming gangs, lol
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 8:23:09 GMT
I didn't mention Muslims. You're the one advocating state controlled censorship and relying on conspiracy theories and attempts to shut other people down, using lies and hypocritical reports. I bet you did, when you were ranting about grooming gangs, lol You would lose that bet. I tend to make a distinction between Islamists and Muslims. It's people like you and the Islamists who want to include all Muslims into your militant cult. Also, there's nothing funny about young girls being groomed and raped.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 5, 2024 8:28:24 GMT
I bet you did, when you were ranting about grooming gangs, lol You would lose that bet. I tend to make a distinction between Islamists and Muslims. It's people like you and the Islamists who want to include all Muslims into your militant cult. Also, there's nothing funny about young girls being groomed and raped. No but what is funny is the way you try to create the same constant image on every thread as though nobody can see it. But you that is. That really is amusing like your latest post.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 8:30:42 GMT
You would lose that bet. I tend to make a distinction between Islamists and Muslims. It's people like you and the Islamists who want to include all Muslims into your militant cult. Also, there's nothing funny about young girls being groomed and raped. No but what is funny is the way you try to create the same constant image on every thread as though nobody can see it. But you that is. That really is amusing like your latest post. You only came onto this thread to push for state controlled media censorship and lie. You're clearly not even bright enough to offer a credible argument.
EDIT: I see little point in wasting time on somebody who wants state controlled media censorship whose motive is to have this thread shut down.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 5, 2024 8:34:31 GMT
No but what is funny is the way you try to create the same constant image on every thread as though nobody can see it. But you that is. That really is amusing like your latest post. You only came onto this thread to push for state controlled media censorship and lie. You're clearly not even bright enough to offer a credible argument. No, you made that up as well and ran with it as though it was true. Which in all honesty gives me a giggle. Then making you try and back up your own self-made confusion is a hoot.
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 8:34:53 GMT
I think that counts as a personal attack, one of the many you have launched against me on this thread, and one of the many ignored by like-minded types who disproportionately occupy this forum. You have done nothing but post personal attacks where the first was toward the OP for addressing the name of the scumbag in question and theorising on his status in the UK. You haven't offered anything else to counter it, and rely solely on attempts to manipulate people into conforming with your dogmatic views. Is it a personal attack to say that “anyone who sets up a thread on a forum such as this, ostensibly about the incident, but who fails to express a single word of sympathy for the victim but just uses this horror incident as a pretext to have a go at illegal immigrants, left wing authorities, and Sadiq Khan, purely on the strength of the accused’s name and without anything else to go on, needs to have a good think about what their obsession has done to them”? And the OP did not address the name of the scumbag in question; he just mentioned it twice without addressing it in any way. It is merely my assumption, and yours as well by the looks of it, that in the absence of anything else that could conceivably have triggered his bizarre “illegal immigrant” response, that the forename of the accused, which is obviously Islamic in origin,must have been the trigger. When you say that I “haven’t offered anything else to counter it” what is the “it” that you are referring to? If it is that the accused is or may be an “ illegal immigrant” then of course, whilst a statistically low possibility, that is possible and I have not and would not suggest otherwise, far less counter that possibility. However, my point here is not that the accused could not be an illegal migrant but what the OP’s post says about the OP and what their “illegal immigrant” first thoughts after reading about this horror incident says about those who found themselves reacting that way . And I am not trying to manipulate people into conforming with my views, dogmatic or otherwise. That would be futile given the obvious anti-immigrant sympathies of the majority on this forum. However, if what I have said makes some of them feel even just a little bit uncomfortable with how they first reacted when reading about this act of horror and makes! them wonder how they could have got that way, then that’s fine by me.
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 8:43:46 GMT
Surely the ignorance lies with those who fail to recognise that the majority in this country are not Christians and that the majority therefore do not have Christian names? No it doesn't. You're clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country, which has now been exposed. Where is the evidence that I am clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country, and why does my suggesting that those who fail to recognise that the majority in this country are not Christians and therefore do not have Christian names expose me as being unaware of this history and these norms? This particular norm is no longer appropriate and the ignorance lies with those who fail or refuse to recognise that.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 8:53:57 GMT
No it doesn't. You're clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country, which has now been exposed. Where is the evidence that I am clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country The fact that you didn't understand what Jonksy meant by his Christian name, which needed me to explain it to you. For those who have ties to this country it's common knowledge. You can ask the same thing again if you like, my answer won't change.
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Post by happyjack on Oct 5, 2024 9:04:50 GMT
Where is the evidence that I am clearly unaware of the history and norms of this country The fact that you didn't understand what Jonksy meant by his Christian name, which needed me to explain it to you. For those who have ties to this country it's common knowledge. You can ask the same thing again if you like, my answer won't change. I obviously did understand what Jonksy meant by Christian name and I needed no explanation. It was obvious that I understood because I asked Jonksy how he knew that the accused had a Christian name and followed that up by asking him if he was assuming the accused to be Christian. If anything is obvious here, it is that you don’t understand what a Christian name is.
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 5, 2024 9:09:51 GMT
Note how the usual press sidesteps carefully around the assalients christion name which is "Mohamed" they just refer to him as "Lidow" if he were a white male we would be told how much his house is worth, his shoe size and how many sugars he takes in his morning cuppa.... How do you know that he has a Christian name? Are you assuming that he is a Christian? The fact that you didn't understand what Jonksy meant by his Christian name, which needed me to explain it to you. For those who have ties to this country it's common knowledge. You can ask the same thing again if you like, my answer won't change. I obviously did understand what Jonksy meant by Christian name and I needed no explanation. The evidence says otherwise.
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