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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 23, 2024 11:47:14 GMT
What does right wing mean? I don't believe that any informed individual doesn't understand Right-wing and left-wing politics. It depends on what they are informed by as to what they understand.
I think it is a system of false division in a divide and rule monopoly government system where they are actually all on the same side. It's like in school where children played cowboys and Indians. The kids get together and decide who will play cowboy and who Indian.
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Post by see2 on Sept 23, 2024 14:02:39 GMT
I don't believe that any informed individual doesn't understand Right-wing and left-wing politics. It depends on what they are informed by as to what they understand.
I think it is a system of false division in a divide and rule monopoly government system where they are actually all on the same side. It's like in school where children played cowboys and Indians. The kids get together and decide who will play cowboy and who Indian.
Clearly the Germans don't agree with you when it comes to the AfG. And the Germans are probably in a better position than most when it comes to commenting on far-right activity. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 23, 2024 14:16:42 GMT
I don't have a preferred newspaper so to speak, but I am very surprised the Independent is considered centrist by a few Brits.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 23, 2024 14:31:09 GMT
I'd say this was fairly accurate, apart from, I would have thought Sky news was a bit further to the left...  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 23, 2024 14:38:23 GMT
I'd say this was fairly accurate, apart from, I would have thought Sky news was a bit further to the left... What fence does the Independent sit on, who were instrumental in bringing down Johnson and partygate. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 23, 2024 15:53:40 GMT
It depends on what they are informed by as to what they understand.
I think it is a system of false division in a divide and rule monopoly government system where they are actually all on the same side. It's like in school where children played cowboys and Indians. The kids get together and decide who will play cowboy and who Indian.
Clearly the Germans don't agree with you when it comes to the AfG. And the Germans are probably in a better position than most when it comes to commenting on far-right activity. Some Germans. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 23, 2024 16:26:11 GMT
I'd say this was fairly accurate, apart from, I would have thought Sky news was a bit further to the left... The Daily Mail and the Daily Express seem to be the two papers most referred to on this forum, that says a lot about the posters on this forum. The Guardian is the paper that most rebuttals of right wing insinuations come from. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2024 16:31:00 GMT
The guardian is the left equivalent of GB news.
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Post by see2 on Sept 23, 2024 16:46:21 GMT
Clearly the Germans don't agree with you when it comes to the AfG. And the Germans are probably in a better position than most when it comes to commenting on far-right activity. Some Germans. Clearly the German political system doesn't agree with you, there will always be the minority who will disagree with the reality, as appears to be the case with yourself. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 23, 2024 17:00:31 GMT
I'd say this was fairly accurate, apart from, I would have thought Sky news was a bit further to the left... Ch4 News is not left enough.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 23, 2024 17:10:43 GMT
The guardian is the left equivalent of GB news. Ahh the pooch is back, excellent.  |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2024 17:11:35 GMT
The guardian is the left equivalent of GB news. Ahh the pooch is back, excellent. It’s the dogs bollocks 👍 |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 23, 2024 17:28:44 GMT
Ahh the pooch is back, excellent. It’s the dogs bollocks 👍 LOL defanitely no connections with Hezbollah.... |
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 23, 2024 18:59:38 GMT
Left and right labels are actually meaningless, except for the few people that base their identity on them, because in reality people just don't fit into those pigeon holes neatly. Communist, Democratic Socialist, Social Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Nationalist are probably more accurate labels than left / right.
Also their definitions move with what is in fashion at the time. The classic example being "Freedom", which is currently claimed by the right, but was most definitely a left wing notion when Thatcher was breaking the skulls of miners.
You seem to think that the media lead (or mislead) the people, actually the truth is that they provide content that the public want to consume. The media reflects the people, not the other way around. How do I know this... just think of a conspiracy nut... they will believe multiple conspiracies because they want to believe... not because the evidence is compelling.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 23, 2024 19:03:15 GMT
Clearly the German political system doesn't agree with you, there will always be the minority who will disagree with the reality, as appears to be the case with yourself. So now you are asking me to place my trust in the German political system. Is there anyone in that system who has said what makes the AfD far right. I know the courts have found it 'guilty of extremism' but then what on earth does that mean. |
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