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Post by wapentake on Sept 10, 2024 14:20:11 GMT
No it won’t,another one with all the hubris of the human race. The earth since its inception has had all sorts of crap thrown at it and much worse than anything the climate worshippers think up. If the human race ceases to exist life will go on,another species will emerge as top of the food chain and the earth will go on circling the sun we will have been a mere blip in its existence and finally a very longtime in to the future it will be consumed by a dying sun. Well, clearly when I said "uninhabitable" I meant for humans No you didn’t otherwise you’d have made it clear. I don’t pretend to be anything other than myself,you on the other hand….. |
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Post by patman post on Sept 10, 2024 18:40:34 GMT
The link for this is from the WEF so the wankers in Westminster will embrace it no doubt whilst being allowed official cars and vehicles of their own to get around in. Car sharing? I’m old enough to remember phone party lines where you had to share your phone line with another household and the conflict that often caused,even old enough to remember people queuing outside of phone boxes and banging on the windows “are you going to be much longer?” Car sharing can see that working well,the experiment starts in the Netherlands district called Merwede which if you remove the fourth and fifth letters becomes the French word Merde and we all know what that is and this idea is just that  linkWe've had club cars and vans operating from bays round here for years. A yearly sub and an hourly charge seem to allow the idea to work well.
Incidently, removing six letters from Scunthorpe would also allow others to play your school yard games... |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 10, 2024 19:12:54 GMT
The link for this is from the WEF so the wankers in Westminster will embrace it no doubt whilst being allowed official cars and vehicles of their own to get around in. Car sharing? I’m old enough to remember phone party lines where you had to share your phone line with another household and the conflict that often caused,even old enough to remember people queuing outside of phone boxes and banging on the windows “are you going to be much longer?” Car sharing can see that working well,the experiment starts in the Netherlands district called Merwede which if you remove the fourth and fifth letters becomes the French word Merde and we all know what that is and this idea is just that linkWe've had club cars and vans operating from bays round here for years. A yearly sub and an hourly charge seem to allow the idea to work well. Well you obviously have no need of it ,you have your car and your wife hers. |
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Post by patman post on Sept 10, 2024 19:27:09 GMT
We've had club cars and vans operating from bays round here for years. A yearly sub and an hourly charge seem to allow the idea to work well. Well you obviously have no need of it ,you have your car and your wife hers. Never say never — life’s otherwise smooth journey can have some annoying jerks appear along the way… |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 10, 2024 19:44:10 GMT
Net Zero is indeed an ideological ploy to achieve a certain outcome. That outcome is to facilitate the ability of those who consider themselves the elite to live as they see fit whilst restricting all others to the limited resources available. In the worst case scenario it is a dystopian society of workers with controlled birthrates serving the whims of the profligate high society that rule through absolute power. I think the best scenario I can think of is still pretty bad. Our economy is only suffering because of the restrictions being placed upon it by 'ourselves'. That is called Capitalism. Climate Change IS happening. Man IS, at least, partly to blame. It WILL have a massive socio-economic impact on all of us, but mostly on the poor, as in NOT the top 5% of wealth-owners. So we have a choice: 1) Try to meet Net-Zero, and many people will have to suffer, BUT most of the world will still be habitable. 2) Pretend Net-Zero is just ideological posturing and do nothing, and many more will still have to suffer, AND the world will end up largely uninhabitable. Unless you are in the top 5% of wealth-owners you ARE going to get fucked, the only question is what kind of world do you want left afterwards. All The Best Not quite Capitalism relies on unending growth for some and ruin for others. Capitalists can also take the hit as the New York jumpers in 1929 can attest. No one has said Climate Change is not happening. What is in dispute is by how much and how large is the 'partly to blame' if it is of significance at all. We have many choices and 1 and 2 or by no means the limit and in actual fact are choices aligned to outcomes which are at best suspect and at worst outright lies. 1) Is the preferred route for most of the elite (whoever they are) as that means those of importance can claim their 'work' is important for everyone else and it is everyone else who have to make the sacrifices. 2) Really just part of 1) as it is do 1) or else this will happen. It seems to have worked wonders for yourself but the proof that planetary warming is bad is pretty tenuous, the proof that it will result in tipping points that are defined is pure guesswork, the consensus is largely invented and the clincher of course is that those who ask questions as regards the accuracy of data and the conclusions reached are officially denigrated and ostracised as far as possible from debate. It seems scientists who believe in planetary warming want to eschew the very scientific methods they say they follow by not keeping their conclusions open to rigorous questioning so that the hypothesis can be tested. The problem is the models and the hypothesis are on very shaky ground and any shoogling of its foundations is likely to bring it all down and, politically, that is not wanted and it is politics, not science, that is driving the programme |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 10, 2024 19:53:47 GMT
Well you obviously have no need of it ,you have your car and your wife hers. Never say never — life’s otherwise smooth journey can have some annoying jerks appear along the way… Yes but none more than Americanisms  |
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Post by patman post on Sept 11, 2024 13:59:25 GMT
Never say never — life’s otherwise smooth journey can have some annoying jerks appear along the way… Yes but none more than Americanisms For those, I could possibly care less, but I doubt it... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 11, 2024 15:40:46 GMT
I was just thinking that if robotaxis do take off because they cut the cost of motoring, then because robotaxis will spend 95% of their time driving, then that would drastically reduce the amount of parked cars. It makes mixing transport modes better as well, like if you want to fly somewhere or go by train, there would not be any need for those vast car parks. This all saves money. People don't realise the true cost of ownership of cars we have now because it is paid for in so many different ways. In history of commerce, the rule of thumb is eventually society will take the economic option. Therefore you can calculate what the future will be.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 12, 2024 16:30:25 GMT
Why would I want to share my car - getting into some old banger stinking of last nights Curry and with some very interesting stains on the seat hold no attraction to me I'm afraid.
Be like getting on a bus.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 12, 2024 16:41:46 GMT
Why would I want to share my car - getting into some old banger stinking of last nights Curry and with some very interesting stains on the seat hold no attraction to me I'm afraid. Be like getting on a bus. LOL, my thoughts entirely. |
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Post by patman post on Sept 12, 2024 17:34:55 GMT
I was just thinking that if robotaxis do take off because they cut the cost of motoring, then because robotaxis will spend 95% of their time driving, then that would drastically reduce the amount of parked cars. It makes mixing transport modes better as well, like if you want to fly somewhere or go by train, there would not be any need for those vast car parks. This all saves money. People don't realise the true cost of ownership of cars we have now because it is paid for in so many different ways. In history of commerce, the rule of thumb is eventually society will take the economic option. Therefore you can calculate what the future will be. Maybe — but "if robotaxis do take off", urban airspace is going to be at a premium — especially with all the predicted Amazon delivery drones... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 12, 2024 21:50:04 GMT
I was just thinking that if robotaxis do take off because they cut the cost of motoring, then because robotaxis will spend 95% of their time driving, then that would drastically reduce the amount of parked cars. It makes mixing transport modes better as well, like if you want to fly somewhere or go by train, there would not be any need for those vast car parks. This all saves money. People don't realise the true cost of ownership of cars we have now because it is paid for in so many different ways. In history of commerce, the rule of thumb is eventually society will take the economic option. Therefore you can calculate what the future will be. Maybe — but "if robotaxis do take off", urban airspace is going to be at a premium — especially with all the predicted Amazon delivery drones... I understand they do in China. You can get yourself one from the airport to one of the more lush hotels out there. They are just bringing it into service around about nowish. The government only recently passed the laws so as to map out the airspace for flying EVs. The latest one to come on the market looks like something out of a science fiction film. It's about 200 grand if you want to buy one. I can't see it happening here though. Our government are still living in the 18th century. |
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