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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 6, 2024 15:49:22 GMT
Labour's 'amnesty' for illegals will add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill, a government assessment reveals. Of 63,053 people previously earmarked for deportation, as many as 70 per cent will now be allowed to stay in Britain with 'full access' to the welfare system. This could hit taxpayers with £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes, critics have warned. The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a 'Duty to Remove', marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country. Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced she was repealing the measures and said this would save £7billion. She has now been accused of 'hiding' the true cost of the measures after Home Office documents show that a vast majority of the claimants could end up in the UK's benefits system. linkMore evidence, if more were necessary, that shows this government are out of their depth. Starmer - Prime Minister. Rayner - Deputy Prime Minister. Cooper - Home Secretary. Lammy - Foreign Secretary. Milliband - Energy Secretary. Mahmood - Lord Chancellor etc etc... The list goes on and on, never in my lifetime have we had a more embarrassing and incompetent bunch of clueless half-wits running this country. God help us.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 6, 2024 15:53:39 GMT
Why are you surprised, it is only the beginning more of their nonsense to come
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 6, 2024 16:13:20 GMT
Why are you surprised, it is only the beginning more of their nonsense to come It would be fair to say I was never optimistic about this government, but never in my wildest dreams did I imagine this level of incompetence.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 6, 2024 17:44:20 GMT
Labour's 'amnesty' for illegals will add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill, a government assessment reveals. Of 63,053 people previously earmarked for deportation, as many as 70 per cent will now be allowed to stay in Britain with 'full access' to the welfare system. This could hit taxpayers with £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes, critics have warned. The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a 'Duty to Remove', marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country. Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced she was repealing the measures and said this would save £7billion. She has now been accused of 'hiding' the true cost of the measures after Home Office documents show that a vast majority of the claimants could end up in the UK's benefits system. linkMore evidence, if more were necessary, that shows this government are out of their depth. Starmer - Prime Minister. Rayner - Deputy Prime Minister. Cooper - Home Secretary. Lammy - Foreign Secretary. Milliband - Energy Secretary. Mahmood - Lord Chancellor etc etc... The list goes on and on, never in my lifetime have we had a more embarrassing and incompetent bunch of clueless half-wits running this country. God help us. It was widely predicted that this is what would happen in the first instance, the boats would keep coming, which they have, and another amnesty is likely no later than next spring.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2024 17:56:59 GMT
The poor old pensioners are funding this, the next ones on the hit list the disabled, someone has to keep these illegals in the lifestyle they've become accustom to.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 6, 2024 18:09:28 GMT
Labour's 'amnesty' for illegals will add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill, a government assessment reveals. Of 63,053 people previously earmarked for deportation, as many as 70 per cent will now be allowed to stay in Britain with 'full access' to the welfare system. This could hit taxpayers with £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes, critics have warned. The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a 'Duty to Remove', marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country. Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced she was repealing the measures and said this would save £7billion. She has now been accused of 'hiding' the true cost of the measures after Home Office documents show that a vast majority of the claimants could end up in the UK's benefits system. linkMore evidence, if more were necessary, that shows this government are out of their depth. Starmer - Prime Minister. Rayner - Deputy Prime Minister. Cooper - Home Secretary. Lammy - Foreign Secretary. Milliband - Energy Secretary. Mahmood - Lord Chancellor etc etc... The list goes on and on, never in my lifetime have we had a more embarrassing and incompetent bunch of clueless half-wits running this country. God help us. It was widely predicted that this is what would happen in the first instance, the boats would keep coming, which they have, and another amnesty is likely no later than next spring. In the first instance? Sandy, in any instance the boats are not going to stop, this government and the French will see to that. Starmers 'smash the gangs' is nothing but hot air, and you know it. Tbh, under this government I don't think amnesties will be necessary because amnesties are for illegal immigrants, and Starmer says there's no such thing as an illegal immigrant. In other words, as far as Starmer is concerned, Africa and the Middle East are welcome in the UK. Until there's mass civil disorder.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 6, 2024 18:25:25 GMT
It was widely predicted that this is what would happen in the first instance, the boats would keep coming, which they have, and another amnesty is likely no later than next spring. In the first instance? Sandy, in any instance the boats are not going to stop, this government and the French will see to that. Starmers 'smash the gangs' is nothing but hot air, and you know it. Tbh, under this government I don't think amnesties will be necessary because amnesties are for illegal immigrants, and Starmer says there's no such thing as an illegal immigrant. In other words, as far as Starmer is concerned, Africa and the Middle East are welcome in the UK. Until there's mass civil disorder. The first instance refers to the amnesty, which came as soon as predicted. The boats will continue for at least the next two to three years and several more amnesties will follow. Sorry I was not too clear.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 6, 2024 18:47:31 GMT
Importing as many foreign immigrants as possible while telling us that they are trying to stop them . Sounds familiar.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 7, 2024 6:39:58 GMT
Telling you that they are moving asylum seekers out of hotels into council housing without actually saying anything..
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Post by piglet on Sept 7, 2024 9:40:44 GMT
This highlights the con job, or jobs, to get elected, that both parties say whatever to appease and please the electorate, then do something completely different.
If i worked for a company, gave a statement to the board which was all lies, when those lies were found out, id get a call telling me to clear my desk.
We cant do that, not for 5 yeears and they know it. Come the next election this will be forgotten, in effect, they are lying with impunity......so did the Tories.
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Post by bancroft on Sept 7, 2024 9:55:55 GMT
At least while we had the barges and the use of ex-military bases we know there was an issue.
Without these it will difficult to know where they will be staying and how large the issue is.
This chap is saying they will employ more to make decisions and deport those not accepted, this percentage of deportees will be the figure to watch if it is still around 90% approval it is a sham.
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Post by witchfinder on Sept 7, 2024 10:45:09 GMT
Labour's 'amnesty' for illegals will add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill, a government assessment reveals. Of 63,053 people previously earmarked for deportation, as many as 70 per cent will now be allowed to stay in Britain with 'full access' to the welfare system. This could hit taxpayers with £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes, critics have warned. The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a 'Duty to Remove', marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country. Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced she was repealing the measures and said this would save £7billion. She has now been accused of 'hiding' the true cost of the measures after Home Office documents show that a vast majority of the claimants could end up in the UK's benefits system. linkMore evidence, if more were necessary, that shows this government are out of their depth. Starmer - Prime Minister. Rayner - Deputy Prime Minister. Cooper - Home Secretary. Lammy - Foreign Secretary. Milliband - Energy Secretary. Mahmood - Lord Chancellor etc etc... The list goes on and on, never in my lifetime have we had a more embarrassing and incompetent bunch of clueless half-wits running this country. God help us. Its ALWAYS easy to tear Daily Mail articles to pieces because they are usually so full of lies, missinformation, assumptions and propoganda. FIrstly, lets look at the headline "Labour amnesty MAY add 40,000 illegals to welfare bill" and "COULD cost taxpayer £18 Bn. Now lets look at the article itself "Labour's 'amnesty' for illegal migrants WILL add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill" and "This COULD hit taxpayers with a £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes" The entire article is full of "MAY's" and "COULD's" - its typical Daily Mail tripe, mostly all guess work dressed up to feed the Gammons. Now lets look at the two massive lies (1) This paragraph here "The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a Duty to Remove, marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country". Firstly, to bar or ban arrivals on small boats from claiming Asylum would be a breech of international law, and a breech of treaties that the UK is a signatory of, so this is plain and simply a lie. Secondly, the previous government were UNABLE to send any illegal immigrants or asylum seekers back to Afghanistan, Syria and several other countries, and this government also cannot send them back, therefore the line "Duty to remove" is a complete nonsense. Rwanda ? - what percentage of Asylum Seekers were the last government hoping to send to Rwanda, it was either 1 or 2 percent, leaving 98% still here, and many of those 98% unable to be sent back to their home country. Jenrick talks out of his arse, he knows that HIS government failed, he also knows that only a tiny fraction would ever have been sent to Rwanda, he also knows that many illegals / asylum seekers cannot be sent back to their home country, and both he and his party had no answers, no solutions, and did nothing. Since the end of Freedom Of Movement, further exacerbated by Covid, this country has imported THOUSANDS of workers, mainly from West Africa to work in the care sector. Asylum seekers and illegal migrants are not allowed to work in this country, yet I personally know of asylum seekers with degrees who could work in pharmacies or hospitals. Amongst the asylum seekers are doctors, nurses, people who would be glad to take up jobs in the care sector, hospitallity, factory work, in agriculture or cleaning hospitals. An amnesty or a partial amnesty offers a genuine solution to a real problem that the last government could not solve, and it could provide some sectors of our economy with much needed labour. No one knows what the government has in mind, it could be a programme involving a route to citizenship, involving work, good behaviour and signing up to "good citizenship programmes" including learning about the British way of life, language, involvement in the community etc.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 7, 2024 11:29:46 GMT
Deterrents save lives. Hand outs make us attractive and more people die.
I would rather save lives with cruelty than kill tens of thousands of people through kind intentioned incompetence.
We've seen for over twenty years the ongoing carnage of well intentioned migrants welcome policies.
Tens of thousands dead as a result. Is it worth the death toll? No.
Notice I haven't mentioned the financial cost, because the cost in human life is far more serious.
People suffocating, people drowning, people enslaved, illegal immigration has done all of this and more.
It's time to try deterrent policies instead of kindness before thousands more drown.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 7, 2024 15:28:13 GMT
Labour's 'amnesty' for illegals will add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill, a government assessment reveals. Of 63,053 people previously earmarked for deportation, as many as 70 per cent will now be allowed to stay in Britain with 'full access' to the welfare system. This could hit taxpayers with £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes, critics have warned. The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a 'Duty to Remove', marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country. Last month, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced she was repealing the measures and said this would save £7billion. She has now been accused of 'hiding' the true cost of the measures after Home Office documents show that a vast majority of the claimants could end up in the UK's benefits system. linkMore evidence, if more were necessary, that shows this government are out of their depth. Starmer - Prime Minister. Rayner - Deputy Prime Minister. Cooper - Home Secretary. Lammy - Foreign Secretary. Milliband - Energy Secretary. Mahmood - Lord Chancellor etc etc... The list goes on and on, never in my lifetime have we had a more embarrassing and incompetent bunch of clueless half-wits running this country. God help us. Its ALWAYS easy to tear Daily Mail articles to pieces because they are usually so full of lies, missinformation, assumptions and propoganda. FIrstly, lets look at the headline "Labour amnesty MAY add 40,000 illegals to welfare bill" and "COULD cost taxpayer £18 Bn. Now lets look at the article itself "Labour's 'amnesty' for illegal migrants WILL add up to 44,000 people to Britain's welfare bill" and "This COULD hit taxpayers with a £17.8billion in extra costs over the migrants' lifetimes" The entire article is full of "MAY's" and "COULD's" - its typical Daily Mail tripe, mostly all guess work dressed up to feed the Gammons. Now lets look at the two massive lies (1) This paragraph here "The previous Conservative government passed a law banning arrivals on small boats from claiming asylum. It introduced a Duty to Remove, marking them for deportation either to Rwanda or their home country". Firstly, to bar or ban arrivals on small boats from claiming Asylum would be a breech of international law, and a breech of treaties that the UK is a signatory of, so this is plain and simply a lie.
That was the Law under the Illegal Migration Act 2023 - since that Act came into force over 40,000 illegal migrants have arrived on these shores. By scrapping that Law it means that those arrivals can now claim asylum and will be settled in the UK. The cost of that decision by Labour is the £18 billion that was cited. You might think that a price worth paying, but you cannot deny that a price will be paid.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 7, 2024 15:43:11 GMT
So the alleged £20 Billion black hole left by the Tories, Labour have now added another £18 Billion so thanks to Labour we now have to plug a £38 Billion black hole ........
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