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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2024 8:14:45 GMT
Yes. Blair has a lot to answer for - and Alistair Campbell too. The war in Iraq was patently illegal. More to the point it was obvious to anyone who knew anything about the ME that removing Saddam would be hugely destabilising. Crazy. Yet the BBC seem to regard Blair and Campbell as gurus. They're always having them on to give their ludicrous opinions. Both should be in jail. It’s not just the bbc but many in the Tory party have looked to Blair for advice. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 12, 2024 8:17:41 GMT
Yes. Blair has a lot to answer for - and Alistair Campbell too. The war in Iraq was patently illegal. More to the point it was obvious to anyone who knew anything about the ME that removing Saddam would be hugely destabilising. Crazy. Yet the BBC seem to regard Blair and Campbell as gurus. They're always having them on to give their ludicrous opinions. Both should be in jail. It’s not just the bbc but many in the Tory party have looked to Blair for advice. Well that's probably part and parcel of why this country is fucked up. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2024 8:23:05 GMT
It’s not just the bbc but many in the Tory party have looked to Blair for advice. Well that's probably part and parcel of why this country is fucked up. Well the fact that we have the biggest set of emperors new clothes in the shape of the Tony Blair institute for global change when the reality is it should be called global catastrophe because it’s largely because of him this country is where it is now. And even now that **** Campbell still threatens legal action against anyone that tries to point that out and gets away with it. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 12, 2024 8:36:04 GMT
Well that's probably part and parcel of why this country is fucked up. Well the fact that we have the biggest set of emperors new clothes in the shape of the Tony Blair institute for global change when the reality is it should be called global catastrophe because it’s largely because of him this country is where it is now. And even now that **** Campbell still threatens legal action against anyone that tries to point that out and gets away with it. There's probably only one thing I would say in Blair's favour, had these riots taken place under his watch he would have 'listened' to the people, he knows you have to tread on eggshells when there is civil unrest, like he had to handle the GFA, we all know how volatile those area's are, unlike Starmer who is tone deaf, not reading the room, and bulldozing his way to catastrophe, |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 12, 2024 8:44:52 GMT
The fact that a young man (a youth) murdered three innocent children is to be condemned for what it is, and in this instance the fact that the culprit is black is completely irrelevant and has no bearing on the matter. In the same way that I called out those who said it was a factor, I'm calling you out for saying it wasn't a factor. We don't know yet. It's people jumping to conclusions that caused the riots last week. Let's just wait and see. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2024 8:52:19 GMT
What I don’t dispute is that people like Blair have used false information to join a war with Bush which caused mayhem in the Middle East and the deaths of too many people,that led to the rise of isis and the numbers of religious nutters trying to kill us and more importantly the movement of people that has left us where we are today. Halfwits throwing bricks and bottles at the police and trying to burn people alive will solve nothing and only weaken any effort to get people to listen. I don’t believe the police are fascists nor partisan they have the job of upholding the law formulated by parliament,the only way to effect any change is through the ballot box ,nobody wants to listen to those that riot . Plenty of people listened to BLM. They achieved lots of change by taking threatening and sometimes violent street action. |
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Post by piglet on Aug 12, 2024 8:52:28 GMT
White lives matter. You cant have a racist murder, that policeman kneeling on a black mans neck, and then not in Southport.
Are the government going to say it was a racist murder?, oh, murders, no. You cant have black people institutionally calling white racists, all the time, and not have it back.
Especially when black people are as racist, in this case, x3 times more. White people cant move for being racist, racism cuts both ways, you cant call our racists, then be racist. No no no.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2024 8:56:48 GMT
What I don’t dispute is that people like Blair have used false information to join a war with Bush which caused mayhem in the Middle East and the deaths of too many people,that led to the rise of isis and the numbers of religious nutters trying to kill us and more importantly the movement of people that has left us where we are today. Halfwits throwing bricks and bottles at the police and trying to burn people alive will solve nothing and only weaken any effort to get people to listen. I don’t believe the police are fascists nor partisan they have the job of upholding the law formulated by parliament,the only way to effect any change is through the ballot box ,nobody wants to listen to those that riot . Plenty of people listened to BLM. They achieved lots of change by taking threatening and sometimes violent street action. People may have listened ,for a while and what do you see now discredited by financial irregularities and greed. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2024 9:05:29 GMT
By 'people', I'm referring to decision-makers and opinion-formers, not the hoi-polloi.
Example: the board of Trustees of the National Trust who were inspired by BLM's activities to launch the highly controversial project 'Addressing our histories of colonialism and historic slavery'.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 12, 2024 22:38:48 GMT
The Labour government relied on disinformation and passed it on as misinformation to start wars that killed millions. Yet, the police, who are fascists, are going around arresting innocent people for sharing something on social media. Yu spout more shite than an arse with bowel cancer. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 12, 2024 22:46:28 GMT
The Labour government relied on disinformation and passed it on as misinformation to start wars that killed millions. Yet, the police, who are fascists, are going around arresting innocent people for sharing something on social media. Yu spout more shite than an arse with bowel cancer. All The Best I’d take more water with your shandy PV . |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 12, 2024 23:49:33 GMT
Yu spout more shite than an arse with bowel cancer. All The Best I’d take more water with your shandy PV . His mentally unhinged retarded outbursts are mere amusement.  |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 0:58:12 GMT
I’d take more water with your shandy PV . His mentally unhinged retarded outbursts are mere amusement. Go on then. Prove me wrong by showing, with FACTS, that Labour "killed millions". We both know you can't because all you do it lie. All The Best |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 1:44:13 GMT
It isn't my fault you rely on misinterpretation and abuse as an argument. Your psychological problems isn't something anyone on here can help you with.
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 1:48:50 GMT
By 'people', I'm referring to decision-makers and opinion-formers, not the hoi-polloi. Example: the board of Trustees of the National Trust who were inspired by BLM's activities to launch the highly controversial project 'Addressing our histories of colonialism and historic slavery'. Unfortunatley, they will run away from this when there's opportunity to acknowledge it in the name of progress. |
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