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Post by piglet on Aug 3, 2024 10:09:36 GMT
Is rioting a healthy response? The answer is yes. Of course. Alarm bells should be ringing in no 10, " have we gone to far". We have fanatics in charge, people who have lost contact with reality. Change is what we want, and it wont be delivered, except through force.
How though? Lets be british and hold a garden fete for the relatives of the dead girls. In reverse, if the girls were black, Southport would be wiped from the map.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 3, 2024 10:13:49 GMT
If the girls were black and the culprit white, and the rioters were black ...... Starmer would have given a totally different statement, he would have told us to sympathize with the rioters, and understand their feelings after a racist attack, these rioters are not far-left they are just ordinary black people protesting and it's turning heated, I have asked the police to engage with the rioters and be sympathetic ... blah blah blah
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 11:26:14 GMT
Street protest has a long and proud history in the UK - some major changes is society would not have been achieved without it.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 11:28:54 GMT
Street protest has a long and proud history in the UK - some major changes is society would not have been achieved without it. Were you saying that about the Just Stop Oil or BLM protests/riots? |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 11:31:14 GMT
Street protest has a long and proud history in the UK - some major changes is society would not have been achieved without it. Were you saying that about the Just Stop Oil or BLM protests/riots? I have nothing against them protesting - I do have a problem with 2 tier policing that treats them differently to everyone else. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 11:39:31 GMT
Were you saying that about the Just Stop Oil or BLM protests/riots? I have nothing against them protesting - I do have a problem with 2 tier policing that treats them differently to everyone else. "The Just Stop Oil protestors have just received longer sentences than this rapist." x.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1819688433381412959?t=A96ycYx3NKf5t0w39HVcKg&s=19What sort of sentences do you think people should get for torching a police station? |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 3, 2024 11:56:07 GMT
He pleaded guilty and displayed remorse , that , I think, gets him a third discount (but I agree it's still still far too light for a stranger rape) But the motorway morons severely adversely affected possibly hundreds of thousands of people with their criminal antics and it sends a strong message to others who may think it a bit of a lark to sit on a motorway gantry , the rapist affects fewer the victim and immediate associates Torching a police station ? whatever the current penalty is for recklessly torching a non residential building |
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Post by piglet on Aug 3, 2024 12:05:48 GMT
Labour continues to dig a hole thay will be buried in, they are now banning people.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 3, 2024 12:51:46 GMT
Whilst rioting is sending a message that all is not well it should be met with hard policing and jail terms if necessary ,peaceful protest managed so as not to inconvenience fine.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 3, 2024 12:58:33 GMT
I've been saying for a long time that the left have been desparate to invent a Far Right. And, now in power, they're doing their best to precipitate one. Whether by design or simply through stupidity remains to be seen.
The left have worked hard at societal division. "Divide and Conquer" is the name of their game.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2024 14:24:28 GMT
Is rioting a healthy response? The answer is yes. Of course. Alarm bells should be ringing in no 10, " have we gone to far". We have fanatics in charge, people who have lost contact with reality. Change is what we want, and it wont be delivered, except through force. How though? Lets be british and hold a garden fete for the relatives of the dead girls. In reverse, if the girls were black, Southport would be wiped from the map. I'm not sure rioting is a 'healthy' response, but after years of being ignored many people feel it's the only course of action they have left and reluctantly, I agree. For years poll after poll after poll has shown the majority or vast majority of people want immigration cut and every prime minister since Cameron in 2010 publicly accepted immigration was too high and pledged to get it down, and behind closed doors they all did exactly the opposite. The vast majority of people in this country are not racists or 'far right. They're just pissed off with mass immigration and pissed off with being ignored. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 3, 2024 14:42:38 GMT
Is rioting a healthy response? The answer is yes. Of course. Alarm bells should be ringing in no 10, " have we gone to far". We have fanatics in charge, people who have lost contact with reality. Change is what we want, and it wont be delivered, except through force. How though? Lets be british and hold a garden fete for the relatives of the dead girls. In reverse, if the girls were black, Southport would be wiped from the map. I'm not sure rioting is a 'healthy' response, but after years of being ignored many people feel it's the only course of action they have left and reluctantly, I agree. For years poll after poll after poll has shown the majority or vast majority of people want immigration cut and every prime minister since Cameron in 2010 publicly accepted immigration was too high and pledged to get it down, and behind closed doors they all did exactly the opposite. The vast majority of people in this country are not racists or 'far right. They're just pissed off with mass immigration and pissed off with being ignored. I think there's a large element of "What's sauce for the goose..."
The majority see certain groups being appeased because they threaten to kick off when they don't get their way. And after a while everyone else thinks: "Well, if it works for them why not us?"
Two tier Kier and the previous government both seemed keen to appease minorities while demanding a higher standard of behaviour from everyone else.
And it seems that's no longer going to wash.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 3, 2024 14:56:23 GMT
So who are these so called far-right racists, me, you, our families, our friends, our neighbour's ..... I bet no one on here knows anyone in a far-right EDL group, I wouldn't even know how to go about finding out who and where they actually are?
It's Labour and lefties response, it can't be the fact it's ordinary non-far-right groups, who are protesting, it has to be this myth far-right group, the media is guilty of the overuse of the words far-right ...... drill it home, keep saying it.
If Starmer and the lefties keep stigmatizing the concerns of ordinary people of the UK as being far-right ... on their own heads be it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2024 15:00:30 GMT
I'm not sure rioting is a 'healthy' response, but after years of being ignored many people feel it's the only course of action they have left and reluctantly, I agree. For years poll after poll after poll has shown the majority or vast majority of people want immigration cut and every prime minister since Cameron in 2010 publicly accepted immigration was too high and pledged to get it down, and behind closed doors they all did exactly the opposite. The vast majority of people in this country are not racists or 'far right. They're just pissed off with mass immigration and pissed off with being ignored. I think there's a large element of "What's sauce for the goose..."
The majority see certain groups being appeased because they threaten to kick off when they don't get their way. And after a while everyone else thinks: "Well, if it works for them why not us?"
Two tier Kier and the previous government both seemed keen to appease minorities while demanding a higher standard of behaviour from everyone else.
And it seems that's no longer going to wash.
Yes indeed, I couldn't agree more. And thanks to Starmer and his government I think the situation is bound to get worse. Digressing slightly, Labour may have just won a general election but with just 34% of the vote, that means the vast majority of people in this country did not vote Labour. Starmer is not Blair he wasn't carried into number 10 on a wave of popularity and 'cool Britannia'. Starmer is the leader of a largely unpopular government and he would do well to remember this. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 15:00:34 GMT
So who are these so called far-right racists, me, you, our families, our friends, our neighbour's ..... I bet no one on here knows anyone in a far-right EDL group, I wouldn't even know how to go about finding out who and where they actually are? It's Labour and lefties response, it can't be the fact it's ordinary non-far-right groups, who are protesting, it has to be this myth far-right group, the media is guilty of the overuse of the words far-right ...... drill it home, keep saying it. If Starmer and the lefties keep stigmatizing the concerns of ordinary people of the UK as being far-right ... on their own heads be it. You can't even walk around with a Swastika tattoo on display, do a nazi salute or attack a mosque these days without the left labelling you far right. |
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