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Post by bancroft on Aug 1, 2024 13:42:27 GMT
And I don't blame them. That's how they should deal with such incidents: Stand well back, put in a containment, wait for the cultural enrichment crew to finish stabbing each other, give it a respectful time for the losers to bleed out. Then move in and mop up. Much safer for the officers. Much less chance of them being accused of "Racism". And a few less scumbags on the street. What's not to like? Well yes, quite. But the reason I mentioned 'unarmed' police must be obvious. In that situation, in any other country in the world, the police would draw their sidearms. In the increasingly multicultural and violent UK, unarmed police are forced to run away. i suspect they can call on firearms officers yet would they fire on machete wielding thugs attacking each other, i doubt it. I think they should have that authority providing they issue a warning drop your knives or we shoot to kill. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 13:42:34 GMT
Armed coppers are the answer to machete gangs. Carry a machete openly, get arrested at gunpoint, resist arrest, die. And have stop and search too. Agree. But as stated above, it won't work until the public, the politicians and the courts start supporting the police. Which won't happen as we have a deliberately divided society. That's what multiculturalism is really about. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 13:45:09 GMT
i suspect they can call on firearms officers yet would they fire on machete wielding thugs attacking each other, i doubt it. I think they should have that authority providing they issue a warning drop your knives or we shoot to kill. They do have that authority. But they won't be supported by the public, politicians or courts should they exercise it. Which is why they won't. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 13:51:14 GMT
Well yes, quite. But the reason I mentioned 'unarmed' police must be obvious. In that situation, in any other country in the world, the police would draw their sidearms. In the increasingly multicultural and violent UK, unarmed police are forced to run away. i suspect they can call on firearms officers yet would they fire on machete wielding thugs attacking each other, i doubt it. I think they should have that authority providing they issue a warning drop your knives or we shoot to kill. In my opinion, police should routinely carry sidearms for personal protection, and they should be free to legally shoot any assailant who poses an imminent threat to their lives or to the lives of members of the public. If some chav is about to stick a knife into someone, he should be shot and I'm confident the vast majority of the public would agree. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 13:58:45 GMT
i suspect they can call on firearms officers yet would they fire on machete wielding thugs attacking each other, i doubt it. I think they should have that authority providing they issue a warning drop your knives or we shoot to kill. In my opinion, police should routinely carry sidearms for personal protection, and they should be free to legally shoot any assailant who poses an imminent threat to their lives or to the lives of members of the public. If some chav is about to stick a knife into someone, he should be shot and I'm confident the vast majority of the public would agree. So sucker punch a fat lesbian ( other sexualities are available) in the face and get a free gun . On that basis I’m not sure all of them should get a gun. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 1, 2024 14:27:39 GMT
Sad racist pricks pretending white youths have never been involved in knife crime before.
You can't just condemn the incident, oh no, gotta bring race into it even though it's irrelevant. Fucking sad losers.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 14:37:23 GMT
Sad racist pricks pretending white youths have never been involved in knife crime before. You can't just condemn the incident, oh no, gotta bring race into it even though it's irrelevant. Fucking sad losers. Indeed. If the machete wielding youths are not white then we mustn’t point it out . In other news we must never admit that most of the EDL membership is white . Eh mr angry? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 1, 2024 14:40:36 GMT
i suspect they can call on firearms officers yet would they fire on machete wielding thugs attacking each other, i doubt it. I think they should have that authority providing they issue a warning drop your knives or we shoot to kill. In my opinion, police should routinely carry sidearms for personal protection, and they should be free to legally shoot any assailant who poses an imminent threat to their lives or to the lives of members of the public. If some chav is about to stick a knife into someone, he should be shot and I'm confident the vast majority of the public would agree. The days of friendly bobbies on the beat who just needed to have a quiet word with or, at most, administer a clip around the ear to would-be troublemakers are long since gone. As is the argument that the police don't need to be armed since the population is overwhelmingly law-abiding and self-disciplined.
That may have true 50 or 60 years ago but these days it is simply a delusionary fantasy.
There is no longer a case to be made that present-day Britain is fundamentally a more civilised and trust-based society than every other Western society so it is perfectly sensible and reasonable for the police to remain unarmed. That is no longer arguable, although promoters of the multicultural experiment are welcome to try.
I doubt any will.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 14:47:26 GMT
If we do arm police then we will need to recruit the kind of police that can be trusted with one .
Ex soldiers maybe .
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 14:54:42 GMT
Sad racist pricks pretending white youths have never been involved in knife crime before. You can't just condemn the incident, oh no, gotta bring race into it even though it's irrelevant. Fucking sad losers. Oh Christ here we go, the minority appeasing outraged left have arrived. Just smile and nod... |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 14:59:52 GMT
If we do arm police then we will need to recruit the kind of police that can be trusted with one . Ex soldiers maybe . Training Bentley, training. I never met anyone who could not be trained to use and handle firearms. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 15:03:33 GMT
If we do arm police then we will need to recruit the kind of police that can be trusted with one . Ex soldiers maybe . Training Bentley, training. I never met anyone who could not be trained to use and handle firearms. Have you seen some of these coppers ? I wouldn’t trust them with a pepper spray. Some might be able to point and pull a trigger but I suspect would either shoot themselves or get beaten up lose the gun. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 15:16:06 GMT
Training Bentley, training. I never met anyone who could not be trained to use and handle firearms. Have you seen some of these coppers ? I wouldn’t trust them with a pepper spray. Some might be able to point and pull a trigger but I suspect would either shoot themselves or get beaten up lose the gun. Yes I know lol. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 15:28:46 GMT
Sad racist pricks pretending white youths have never been involved in knife crime before. You can't just condemn the incident, oh no, gotta bring race into it even though it's irrelevant. Fucking sad losers. 🤣 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 15:37:17 GMT
Training Bentley, training. I never met anyone who could not be trained to use and handle firearms. Have you seen some of these coppers ? I wouldn’t trust them with a pepper spray. Some might be able to point and pull a trigger but I suspect would either shoot themselves or get beaten up lose the gun. I tend to agree. But then there again, TASER has been a thing for donkeys years but how many have been disarmed and TASERED? The fact is it's tactical: You don't police the same way armed as unarmed. If armed, you need to be booting that suspect in the head if there's any chance at all that they might get up and get hold of your firearm. It's a much more hands off, less physical restraint, more distance, more robust model than the unarmed "Pile in and have a roll around" style of policing that's hitherto been practiced. But the public, politicians and courts would need educating before that becomes practical. |
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