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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2024 10:24:50 GMT
We can all find images to serve our own agendas. All The Best LOL are you serious? I posted a pic depicting hundreds of Pakistanis demonstrating in the 'islamic republic of Rochdale', and you post a pic of a handful of white people! I'm unsure what your point is? Where's the pic of hundreds of white English people demonstrating in Pakistan?.. And yet Nulla 100% trusts a handful of shaky YouTube videos when they support his prejudice. Funny that. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 26, 2024 10:25:04 GMT
Yes it's the usual half story told by our left-wing biased MSM. The full footage is available online and tells a very different story. Can you link that please? Otherwise, and no doubt we'll have the likes if Witchfinder making up more rubbish on the back of opinions and passing them off as fact. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2024 10:26:56 GMT
Except that not all of the videos are in the public domain. And even if they were, they aren't the whole story. I never said they were, either all in the public domain, or the whole story. But unless some videos turn up showing his right arm suddenly move to defend against the kick in the head then it is plausible he was not fully conscious, which could be the result of being tazered. I doubt any videos are going to turn up showing him not face-down, as far as I am aware it is not possible for a person to be both face-down and not-face-down simultaneously. So it looks like both of those factors are reasonably fixed. There's certainly more than one PO visible, so unless one of those is a "magic reflection" or other illusory effect that looks pretty well sorted as well. So I have to ask. What do you think that other videos could show that refute one, or more, of the following: 1) The suspect was face-down on the ground 2) The suspect made no attempt to defend himself against the kick to the head. 3) The suspect had more that one Police Officer pointing weapons (including tazers) at him. Those are the ONLY three claims I have made. I concede we don't have the full picture of what led up to that exact moment. But again, I am not sure how what preceded that moment changes any of the material facts of that moment. All The Best Why have due process when we could rely on 20 seconds of YouTube videos instead? Personally, I'll wait for the official enquiry. Which will of course take years. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 26, 2024 10:32:05 GMT
We can all find images to serve our own agendas. All The Best LOL are you serious? I posted a pic depicting hundreds of Pakistanis demonstrating in the 'islamic republic of Rochdale', and you post a pic of a handful of white people! I'm unsure what your point is? Where's the pic of hundreds of white English people demonstrating in Pakistan?.. I can't find any record of an "Islamic Republic Of Rochdale"; I can find the "Metropolitan Borough of Rochdale". Should we perhaps make sure we are both talking about the same place? As of 2021 the demographic make up of Rochdale is: White: 57.2% Asian: 34.3% Mixed: 2.6% Black: 3.4% Other: 2.1% Arab: 0.5% Christianity is still the predominant religion, though Muslim is a pretty close second. So my point is that your image does not, in any way, reflect the reality of Rochdale. All The Best |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 26, 2024 10:39:50 GMT
Yes officers had been assaulted but does that warrant the action of the police afterwards . What ended up in a possible life threating incident. Yes, officers had been assaulted (with a broken nose and possible life threatening injuries), let's brush that under the carpet, and focus on the actions and wrong doings of a police officer. Can you see why half the population will never agree with you? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 26, 2024 10:42:37 GMT
I can't find any record of an "Islamic Republic Of Rochdale"; I can find the "Metropolitan Borough of Rochdale". Should we perhaps make sure we are both talking about the same place? As of 2021 the demographic make up of Rochdale is: White: 57.2% Asian: 34.3% Mixed: 2.6% Black: 3.4% Other: 2.1% Arab: 0.5% Christianity is still the predominant religion, though Muslim is a pretty close second. So my point is that your image does not, in any way, reflect the reality of Rochdale. All The Best The image I posted is a perfect example of Rochdale, and a glance on google images will show you many more pics of vociferous aggressive Muslims demonstrating in Rochdale, and in many other towns in this non islamic country. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 26, 2024 10:44:34 GMT
We can all find images to serve our own agendas. All The Best LOL are you serious? I posted a pic depicting hundreds of Pakistanis demonstrating in the 'islamic republic of Rochdale', and you post a pic of a handful of white people! I'm unsure what your point is? Where's the pic of hundreds of white English people demonstrating in Pakistan?.. Im live ln Rochdale has you know and can tell you its not a islamic republic gsd you claim |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 26, 2024 10:47:26 GMT
Yes officers had been assaulted but does that warrant the action of the police afterwards . What ended up in a possible life threating incident. Yes, officers had been assaulted (with a broken nose and possible life threatening injuries), let's brush that under the carpet, and focus on the actions and wrong doings of a police officer. Can you see why half the population will never agree with you? Whatlife threating injuries at Manchester airport |
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2024 10:49:29 GMT
I think that's an idiotic standard that ignores reality. I feel, if someone assaults security in an airport, then they entirely loose any good faith assumption of 'not being a threat'I agree. Are then still a threat when they are face down on the ground, appear to be barely conscious, and surrounded by police with weapons pointed at them? Barely conscious is a presumption. The short answer is 'yes' |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2024 10:53:45 GMT
Yes officers had been assaulted but does that warrant the action of the police afterwards . What ended up in a possible life threating incident. Yes, officers had been assaulted (with a broken nose and possible life threatening injuries), let's brush that under the carpet, and focus on the actions and wrong doings of a police officer. Can you see why half the population will never agree with you? Only in the UK could a bunch of thugs kick off at an airport and the police get the blame. In most other countries, including their own, these thugs would have got a good hiding off the police and it wouldn't even have made the news. But here in the UK, the powers-that-be are terrified of upsetting vociferous minorities and there are too many idiots like doofus who believe that's a good thing. We are heading for anarchy. |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 26, 2024 10:54:18 GMT
Another story from the mid 20s and perhaps a better example.
Me and my brother had been to football probably an Away match and then stopped off at the local pub and decided to walk home about a mile up a hill.
Half way up the hill we encounter two young chaps probably 19-20 both holding the 'For Sale home signs on wooden poles' and swinging these around, one of them threatened us.
So we decided to split getting ready to charge them, they then realised we were serious and no, no we don't want any trouble and turned off using a side road.
Ten minutes later we get to the top of the road and a van swoops up beside us and six police chaps jump out.
'Where have you been, where are you going?'
I say Pub and going home.
They start chatting and then I realise what has happened.
I think you have us mixed up with two younger chaps who were swinging around the 'For Sale signs' yet they turned off down a side road.
They start chatting and it looks like they are going to leave........
My brother then decides to shout out, 'You are just on an effing ego trip!'
They all grab him and throw him in the back of the van and I am just left there and go home and tell Dad who is still up and goes down the police station.
They let my brother out the next morning, no charge.
Yet you come to realise the police can make mistakes.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2024 10:55:04 GMT
LOL are you serious? I posted a pic depicting hundreds of Pakistanis demonstrating in the 'islamic republic of Rochdale', and you post a pic of a handful of white people! I'm unsure what your point is? Where's the pic of hundreds of white English people demonstrating in Pakistan?.. Im live ln Rochdale has you know and can tell you its not a islamic republic gsd you claim You couldn't tell us the time accurately. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 26, 2024 11:00:12 GMT
Im live ln Rochdale has you know and can tell you its not a islamic republic gsd you claim You couldn't tell us the time accurately. I can tell your a idiot |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 26, 2024 11:24:31 GMT
Anyhoo...
The chavs who attacked the police, what do we think will happen to them? They will obviously be charged and appear in court. But the courts will be very aware that feral animals who have a propensity to dance around burning union jacks will be waiting for the verdict. Will this influence the court? I sincerely hope not, but who knows.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 26, 2024 11:47:18 GMT
You couldn't tell us the time accurately. I can tell your a idiot But you can’t spell ‘ you’re’. |
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